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brooklynite

(94,560 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:24 PM Nov 2018

Turkey has second audio recording on Khashoggi killing: Columnist

Source: Hurriyet Daily News

Hürriyet columnist Abdulkadir Selvi reported on Nov. 16 that Turkey has more evidence, including a second, longer audio recording that contradicts with key findings of the Saudi public prosecutor’s indictment against the suspected murderers of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

...snip...

According to the Turkish columnist, a set of findings and evidence in Turkey’s own probe disprove some of the Saudi prosecutor’s claims over the killing.

Another tape, Selvi wrote Nov. 16, was recorded 15 minutes before Khashoggi arrived the consulate.

In this 15-minute recording, “the Saudi team discusses how to execute Khashoggi. They are reviewing their plan, which was previously prepared, and reminding themselves the duties of each member,” according to the columnist.

Read more: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-has-second-audio-recording-on-khashoggi-killing-columnist-138915

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Turkey has second audio recording on Khashoggi killing: Columnist (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2018 OP
Bush invaded the wrong country sandensea Nov 2018 #1
And bush has shrewdly cultivated friendships with members of Congress because friends don't JudyM Nov 2018 #3
The Bushes. sandensea Nov 2018 #10
By not pursuing him and Cheney we have set a horrible precedent. No more rolling over! JudyM Nov 2018 #12
Would that someone could, Judy. sandensea Nov 2018 #13
Pelosi said one of her priorities is to go after corruption. A shred of hope that that initiative JudyM Nov 2018 #14
Good. Pelosi's Strengthening Democracy Act needs to be our 'repeal Obamacare' sandensea Nov 2018 #15
Yes! And we need to veto Cheeto. JudyM Nov 2018 #16
I think you found our first 2020 bumper sticker! sandensea Nov 2018 #18
A lot of US Americans spent time trying to understand the photos from that time! Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #5
Bandar Bush. How could I forget. sandensea Nov 2018 #11
Turkey keeps setting the Saudis up to fail with their cover up neohippie Nov 2018 #2
More evidence that our Toilet Twitler is in collusion with the worst the world has to offer RainCaster Nov 2018 #4
I am glad Mueller is investigating Saudi ties too. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #6
If they had advance warning, couldn't they have prevented his death? r/o BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #7
Depending on how the recording was done - maybe they did not have it in real time karynnj Nov 2018 #8
That makes really good sense and makes me feel a bit better. BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #9
Turkey didn't make those recordings, I bet another country gave them to Turkey. Sunlei Nov 2018 #17

JudyM

(29,244 posts)
3. And bush has shrewdly cultivated friendships with members of Congress because friends don't
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nov 2018

prosecute friends.

JudyM

(29,244 posts)
14. Pelosi said one of her priorities is to go after corruption. A shred of hope that that initiative
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:12 PM
Nov 2018

will be robust...

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
15. Good. Pelosi's Strengthening Democracy Act needs to be our 'repeal Obamacare'
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:17 PM
Nov 2018

While Bitchy Mitchy, obviously, can still stop it from ever passing (to say nothing of a Cheeto veto), I hope Dems insist on passing this as often as it takes to keep it in the news.

And, hopefully, when Democrats regain the White House in 2020, it can be passed into law - over what no doubt will be GOPee wailing and gnashing of teeth of Bibiblical proportions.

Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
5. A lot of US Americans spent time trying to understand the photos from that time!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018


Crown Prince Abdullah, near Texas Blue Bonnets at Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas.



Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, Crawford Ranch.



Tag team, with Condoleeza



Clowning around with his sword, George W.



Probably believes the Ardha Sword Dance is all about him.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
11. Bandar Bush. How could I forget.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

The Bushes must have gotten billions from them, one way or another.

The Saudis, of course, got their payback too - in the form of oil prices that ballooned from $30 a barrel before the invasion to $140 a barrel by 2008.

Who can forget that $4.50-a-gallon gas! ($5 in California). The 405 (LA's busiest freeway) was pretty quiet there for a while in late '08 and early '09, let me tell you.

Such is the world, as you know much better than I do Judi.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
2. Turkey keeps setting the Saudis up to fail with their cover up
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:42 PM
Nov 2018

They release audio the Saudis adjust their story to the known evidence, then just when the Saudis think they have developed a cover story Turkey releases new evidence to expose the new lies.

We all know the truth, remember when both Trump and Lindsay Graham claimed they would hold MBS and the Saudis responsible if they were behind the murder, well did anyone believe those two... besides the cult of deplorables?

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
6. I am glad Mueller is investigating Saudi ties too.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:27 PM
Nov 2018

The investigation will never wrap up if he keeps going after the crimes involving the GOP.

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
7. If they had advance warning, couldn't they have prevented his death? r/o
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:38 PM
Nov 2018

"Another tape, Selvi wrote Nov. 16, was recorded 15 minutes before Khashoggi arrived the consulate.

In this 15-minute recording, “the Saudi team discusses how to execute Khashoggi. They are reviewing their plan, which was previously prepared, and reminding themselves the duties of each member,” according to the columnist."

That would suggest that they might have had time to tip off Khashoggi--possibly preventing his death. I'm not entirely thrilled with the Turkish officials' behavior. The Saudis were monsters but it seems like (if the article is accurate) that the Turks may have let this happen to have a reason to go after their enemies. I hope I'm wrong.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. Depending on how the recording was done - maybe they did not have it in real time
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

ie - maybe a Turkish worker left an inconspicuous recording device and when they returned to work picked it up. (Supposedly the Turkish staff was not there on that day. However being told not to come to work might have made any Turkish asset there suspicious.)

I agree that IF they did have this real time, they should have tried to prevent him from entering the embassy -- possibly by "arresting" him and his fiancee outside.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. Turkey didn't make those recordings, I bet another country gave them to Turkey.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:03 PM
Nov 2018
maybe their new friend country, Russia made the recordings? Russia would like to discredit SA, and their Ally USA by releasing recordings.
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