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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:04 PM Nov 2018

Romaine lettuce is not safe to eat, CDC warns U.S. consumers

Source: The Washington Post



By Joel Achenbach and Lena H. Sun November 20 at 2:51 PM

Romaine lettuce is unsafe to eat in any form, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday in a broad alert in response to a new outbreak of illnesses caused by a particularly dangerous type of E. coli contamination.

The CDC told consumers to throw away any romaine lettuce they may already have purchased. Restaurants should not serve it, stores should not sell it, and people should not buy it, no matter where or when the lettuce was grown. It doesn’t matter if it is chopped, whole head or part of a mix. All romaine should be avoided.

The CDC alert, issued just two days before Americans sit down for their Thanksgiving dinners, reported that 32 people in 11 states have become sick from eating contaminated romaine. Of those, 13 have been hospitalized, with one patient suffering from a form of kidney failure. No deaths have been reported.

The origin of the outbreak is unknown and remains under investigation. The CDC did not limit the warning to romaine from any particular agricultural area.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/romaine-lettuce-is-not-safe-to-eat-cdc-warns-us-consumers/2018/11/20/726d0ae6-ece9-11e8-96d4-0d23f2aaad09_story.html

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Romaine lettuce is not safe to eat, CDC warns U.S. consumers (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
How is this constantly happening? Historic NY Nov 2018 #1
They don't fund the FDA/Dept. of Agriculture. Scoopster Nov 2018 #3
A rhetorical question, for sure. PSPS Nov 2018 #4
Speaking of rhetoric... DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #58
And timely too...2 days before Thanksgiving..... Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #12
Fertilizing with raw manure lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #39
You nailed it! nt Delmette2.0 Nov 2018 #42
Just ate a head for lunch exboyfil Nov 2018 #2
Green leaf or red leaf lettuce is just as good as romaine for most uses. haele Nov 2018 #11
Some restaurants only put romaine in salads. wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #5
Glad I'm not the only one. llmart Nov 2018 #25
So organic romaine lettuce is not okay? YOHABLO Nov 2018 #6
No, not okay frazzled Nov 2018 #13
The article says nothing about organic romaine lettuce. In fact, it says, "avoid all types." DonViejo Nov 2018 #53
Often worse zipplewrath Nov 2018 #20
Dang, it's pretty much my go-to for salads. LisaM Nov 2018 #7
Iceberg! My wife thinks I'm an idiot for liking Iceberg. Who's laughing now? lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #40
So do I! I love Romaine. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #43
Exactly. I don't want a bunch of spinach and escarole sticking to my teeth. LisaM Nov 2018 #46
just came home with of organic from TJ's... dhill926 Nov 2018 #8
Follow the CDC link int he OP. There's a map there. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2018 #17
thx... dhill926 Nov 2018 #19
Damn. Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #9
I always go for baby spinach ... jb5150 Nov 2018 #10
Which sounds great, except... regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #27
Old enough to remember 1959 Thanksgiving Cranberry Scare. Sneederbunk Nov 2018 #14
32 cases since October 6 so it's not really a sudden outbreak. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2018 #15
It's this kind of willfulness that gets people killed. Read the article and throw that shit out. DRoseDARs Nov 2018 #21
It's pretty incredible people would risk death by shiga toxin for a fucking head of lettuce. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #24
Yeah, just threw mine out. pamela Nov 2018 #32
Caught in a bad Romaine jberryhill Nov 2018 #16
LOL Auggie Nov 2018 #28
Hahaha! Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #61
Again?! StarryNite Nov 2018 #18
Romaine is ALL the lettuce my family eats benld74 Nov 2018 #22
I suppose it could mean fast food sandwiches/hamburgers defacto7 Nov 2018 #23
As I'm eating my salad for the 2nd day in a row from Chipotle, the E.Coli poster restaurant... flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #26
Well I guess if I didn't get sick eating the same salad yesterday I'm probably good today. flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #44
I went up to our work cafeteria after reading this. The romaine lettuce had been pulled. LisaM Nov 2018 #29
I'm pretty sure it was romaine in the Cobb salad I had last night... regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #30
Perhaps you'll beat the odds. Harker Nov 2018 #59
even spring mix has baby romaine- CDC says"until we learn more" & NO antibiotics can be Sunlei Nov 2018 #31
That is fucking scary. geardaddy Nov 2018 #33
yes luckily we are opting for a relish tray instead. ginnyinWI Nov 2018 #35
Yep. I love that tradition. geardaddy Nov 2018 #37
oh and also the cherry tomatoes are a hit-- ginnyinWI Nov 2018 #38
Nice! geardaddy Nov 2018 #41
Even Spring Mix! ginnyinWI Nov 2018 #34
No money for inspections and this is what you get. It won't be the only time. Hassler Nov 2018 #36
DANG! Duppers Nov 2018 #45
I'll cook my vegetables IronLionZion Nov 2018 #47
k for visibility riversedge Nov 2018 #48
What is it with Romaine? NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #49
It's Lettuce: Who Cares??? Cal Tek Nov 2018 #50
Yay, let's slash some more regulations AdamGG Nov 2018 #51
Just checked the bag of salad I bought The Genealogist Nov 2018 #52
I've been shunning lettuce all year due to all the recalls and I have really been missing r/o BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #54
Well, that explains why there was no romaine at the store. Vinca Nov 2018 #55
I was eating romaine all weekend Sedona Nov 2018 #56
If you can, grown your own zeusdogmom Nov 2018 #57
I'm sure it has nothing to do with killing billions of animals annually and spraying their blood gtar100 Nov 2018 #60
I just bought some the other day after avoiding buying for months (geez). SCRUBDASHRUB Nov 2018 #62
is it ok for turtles to eat the lettuce? diva77 Nov 2018 #63
Just at the grocery store earlier this evening. Romaine is fully stocked, no warning..nothing. YOHABLO Nov 2018 #64
Romaine has had this issue off and on for about a year now. And still no location of the problem? suffragette Nov 2018 #65
I just had some really nice Cha Nov 2018 #66
My local Aldi has really good butter lettuce. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #67
You'd think they'd be worried about a challenge from the Turbineguy Nov 2018 #68

Scoopster

(423 posts)
3. They don't fund the FDA/Dept. of Agriculture.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:11 PM
Nov 2018

No funding means no inspectors and no oversight of the country's food supply, which means people get sick for no good reason.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
58. Speaking of rhetoric...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:41 PM
Nov 2018

I heard that certain handheld technologies – also poorly regulated – have been contaminated with bullets. In this case the contaminates have killed tens of thousands annually.

No one can figure out why Amreican’s aren’t banning these dangerous technologies along with the romaine lettuce. The latter has not killed anyone yet.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
12. And timely too...2 days before Thanksgiving.....
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:22 PM
Nov 2018

after everyone bought the 'shitty' Romaine. How convenient. The stores should've thrown it out first. LOTS of salads eaten on Thursday this week. That's an ugly sickness.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
39. Fertilizing with raw manure
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:24 PM
Nov 2018

...and who knows what else.

I'm all for organic farming, but there are certain steps that have to be taken for safety.

More plant compost, and less animal manure, but in both cases good composting practice is mandatory. Eating fewer animals will change that balance, over time.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. Just ate a head for lunch
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:09 PM
Nov 2018

I wonder how much I have left?

My mom got sick last month with E coli (she lives in Florida). I wonder if she got bad romaine. She was in the hospital for almost a month (also had MRSA). Still IV antibiotics at home.

I threw everything out of her refrigerator, but I did purchase and consume three heads of romaine while I was down there. It is my go to salad.

Well back to iceberg I guess. Will save some bucks, but not nearly as good.

haele

(12,629 posts)
11. Green leaf or red leaf lettuce is just as good as romaine for most uses.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:22 PM
Nov 2018

A bit more peppery and not as "crunchy", but they're good substitutes for lettuce wraps.
Cabbage is also a good substitute, but you need to make sure it's young if you want it sweet.

Haele.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
5. Some restaurants only put romaine in salads.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:12 PM
Nov 2018

I don’t like eating the center of the leaves only the green leafy part do I like.

llmart

(15,527 posts)
25. Glad I'm not the only one.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:58 PM
Nov 2018

I always cut the rib out of the leaf and just tear up the lettuce leaf portion. I also never buy bagged greens (or boxes, or whatever they prepackage it in). It just isn't as fresh tasting to me. Yes, it's more time consuming, but it's worth it.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
20. Often worse
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:41 PM
Nov 2018

Can't say in this case, but many of the spinach recalls were for organic varieties. They don't use nearly the chemicals that the industrial farms use and so apparently are more exposed to risk if the vegetables get contaminated.

LisaM

(27,791 posts)
7. Dang, it's pretty much my go-to for salads.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:19 PM
Nov 2018

I like salad greens to be crunchy, not limp. They'd better fix this asap.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. So do I! I love Romaine.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:33 PM
Nov 2018

I like other greens too, but I always like to mix in Romaine for the crunch and texture.

LisaM

(27,791 posts)
46. Exactly. I don't want a bunch of spinach and escarole sticking to my teeth.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:45 PM
Nov 2018

Also, I love Caesar salads.

I like iceberg lettuce for sandwiches; guess I'll mix it with darker greens for salads until this is fixed.

dhill926

(16,299 posts)
8. just came home with of organic from TJ's...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:19 PM
Nov 2018

will wait to see what states are affected. Odds are it's ok...

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
27. Which sounds great, except...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:01 PM
Nov 2018

...a friend of mine got salmonella from spinach last year, and quite literally nearly died from it.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,813 posts)
15. 32 cases since October 6 so it's not really a sudden outbreak.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:23 PM
Nov 2018

I think I'll go ahead and eat the salad I picked up for dinner.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
21. It's this kind of willfulness that gets people killed. Read the article and throw that shit out.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:48 PM
Nov 2018

The CDC is not a hotbed of hair-on-fire panic and woo. Their primary job is not to react to outbreaks, epidemics and pandemics, but to stay ahead of them and prevent them if they can. If they're telling you to throw your romaine lettuce out, THROW YOUR ROMAINE LETTUCE OUT.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
24. It's pretty incredible people would risk death by shiga toxin for a fucking head of lettuce.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:56 PM
Nov 2018

If you're going to die for food, at least die for something with flavor.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
32. Yeah, just threw mine out.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:12 PM
Nov 2018

It hurt. I'm on a fairly tight budget and it was the last of my produce but I can't afford to get sick either. And dying would really suck.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Caught in a bad Romaine
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:24 PM
Nov 2018

I want your salad, I want your disease
I want your croutons as long as they're free
I want your leaves
Leaves, leaves, leaves, I want your leaves

I want your leaves, and I want honey ranch
You and me could eat a bad romaine
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
Caught in a bad romaine

benld74

(9,900 posts)
22. Romaine is ALL the lettuce my family eats
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:48 PM
Nov 2018

And has been since WAY before the 1st outbreak.


Guess we've been playing roulette?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
23. I suppose it could mean fast food sandwiches/hamburgers
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:48 PM
Nov 2018

I imagine they use iceburg for those... but who knows.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
26. As I'm eating my salad for the 2nd day in a row from Chipotle, the E.Coli poster restaurant...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nov 2018

Can we order extra lettuce on all of Rump's big macs at least?

LisaM

(27,791 posts)
29. I went up to our work cafeteria after reading this. The romaine lettuce had been pulled.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:03 PM
Nov 2018

I'm glad to know they're keeping on top of these announcements.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
30. I'm pretty sure it was romaine in the Cobb salad I had last night...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018

...and it certainly was in the Caesar from a couple of days before that.

So, I imagine it’s only a matter of time before I get “tombstoned”…in the literal sense.

It was nice knowing all of you.

Harker

(13,949 posts)
59. Perhaps you'll beat the odds.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:46 PM
Nov 2018

I would advise you, though, to steer well clear of the salmon mousse.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
31. even spring mix has baby romaine- CDC says"until we learn more" & NO antibiotics can be
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018

used with this form of ecoli 'infection'.

here's CDC link and note even Canada is having some cases.-

https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-11-18/index.html

They need to find the source! There aren't that many mega-farm growers corporations..



geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
33. That is fucking scary.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:12 PM
Nov 2018

I don't normally eat romaine. We usually eat Spring mix from our co-op.

At least your average Minnesotan won't have to worry about it on Thanksgiving. The only salad usually on any traditional table is jello salad or ambrosia salad. Ewwww.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
35. yes luckily we are opting for a relish tray instead.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

You know--carrot and celery sticks, olives, pickles, red pepper rings.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
37. Yep. I love that tradition.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018

About the only thing we don't do anymore is pickled peaches or those apple rings that are soaked in grenadine.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
47. I'll cook my vegetables
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:48 PM
Nov 2018

salad is just not worth it

I have spinach, peppers, onions, kale, broccoli. I like raw spinach but will saute in olive oil just in case.

This outbreak may not be limited to just romaine.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
49. What is it with Romaine?
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:55 PM
Nov 2018

How come only it has problems? We don't hear about red or green leaf, or iceberg lettuce.

 

Cal Tek

(41 posts)
50. It's Lettuce: Who Cares???
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:55 PM
Nov 2018

Unless you're a rabbit, or hamster, or gerbil, etc. Daym Drops, a Youtuber who reviews fast-food items, calls it "crunchy water." I agree.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
52. Just checked the bag of salad I bought
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:01 PM
Nov 2018

No romaine. I like romaine. I hope all the wingnuts who hate that "big gubmint" are watching. "Big gubmint" with well-funded and professional oversight of this could keep this kind of dangerous food issue at bay.

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
54. I've been shunning lettuce all year due to all the recalls and I have really been missing r/o
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:11 PM
Nov 2018

regular salads. Salads with all the other veggies but no lettuce are good but *not the same*.

zeusdogmom

(987 posts)
57. If you can, grown your own
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:36 PM
Nov 2018

Even inside in the middle of winter. A old shop light is my grow light. It's not that hard.

I have a few sad heads left in the garden. It has been pretty cold and my frost cover took a beating in the wind. Time to fire up my basement garden.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
60. I'm sure it has nothing to do with killing billions of animals annually and spraying their blood
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 07:09 PM
Nov 2018

over fields or letting it collect in ponds where it accidentally seeps into the ground water. Or throwing their shit everywhere and calling it fertilizer. I'm sure there's an explanation out there that doesn't make anyone feel uncomfortable about how shitty we treat the animals we eat ot how irresponsible and reprehensible factory farming is. Or the fact that we support it every time we buy the body parts. They are, after all, just meat sacks made for our pleasure and consumption, I presume. Who the fuck cares as long as the packaging looks good. Contamination must be something that just happens to lettuce sometimes. Gotta be careful about those vegetables!

SCRUBDASHRUB

(7,252 posts)
62. I just bought some the other day after avoiding buying for months (geez).
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 07:27 PM
Nov 2018

Throwing it out, but hopefully I won't get sick. Grrr..

Better safe than sorry.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
64. Just at the grocery store earlier this evening. Romaine is fully stocked, no warning..nothing.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:40 AM
Nov 2018

I'm wondering if the CDC is putting out a blanket statement to ward off any possibilities of contamination. Organic Romaine has to be safer. IMO They honestly do not know where the problem lays. I'm eating a salad of baby mix greens, organic, and haven't had any illness bestowed on me.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
67. My local Aldi has really good butter lettuce.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:04 AM
Nov 2018

It's hydroponically-grown. Probably not from Maui, however. It's great for lettuce wraps.

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