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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:38 PM Nov 2018

Ryan casts doubt on 'bizarre' California election results

Source: The Hill



BY SCOTT WONG - 11/29/18 10:34 AM EST

Weeks after House Republicans lost their majority, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Thursday cast serious doubts about the “bizarre” election system in California, where it appears that seven GOP-held seats will flip to Democratic control.

The California election system “just defies logic to me,” Ryan said during a Washington Post event.

“We were only down 26 seats the night of the election and three weeks later, we lost basically every California race. This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.”

It was a remarkable comment from the retiring Speaker of the House, who until now had not joined President Trump and other Republicans who have complained about what they believed were election irregularities in places like Florida and California.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/418880-ryan-casts-doubt-on-bizarre-california-election-results

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Ryan casts doubt on 'bizarre' California election results (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
ryan must miss the fact that moderate GOP hates all things trump beachbum bob Nov 2018 #1
Sore losers! truthisfreedom Nov 2018 #2
Hahahahahaha Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #3
He is lucky it was only 39 Guppy Nov 2018 #4
It may be up to 40 when CA-21 comes in. And I agree about gerrymandering. StevieM Nov 2018 #22
We did a great job of getting the vote out Guppy Nov 2018 #24
Absolutely. And Pennsylvania basically proved that.... SKKY Nov 2018 #43
Coincidentally, I have been extremely disappointed in the bizarre mob rule by the GOP ... marble falls Nov 2018 #5
Is this the same guy who won't bring an investigation, not even a censure resolution against trump?? ffr Nov 2018 #6
Oh, go fondle your money, you lame-duck asshole. n/t malthaussen Nov 2018 #7
Let's see underpants Nov 2018 #8
Wow, he really hates actually counting all the votes! bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #9
ONLY Dem votes, don't you know! niyad Nov 2018 #14
"I can't begin to understand what 'ballot harvesting' is." Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #10
You called it my friend. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #13
But Georgia is just fine. DavidDvorkin Nov 2018 #11
Exactly!!! Election integrity IS a nonpartisan issue, but lyin-ryan missed it by a mile with his diva77 Nov 2018 #32
Ryan "understands" Georgia's election system just fine. Midnight Writer Nov 2018 #33
Yep. DavidDvorkin Nov 2018 #35
FUCK YOU paulie, you worthless piece of feces. niyad Nov 2018 #12
Last shot before the door hits you where the good lord split you????? libdem4life Nov 2018 #15
Hey f*ckwit, maybe learn something about the situation before opening your piehole. RockRaven Nov 2018 #16
Maybe Californians in Orange County didn't like losing their SALT deduction? Merlot Nov 2018 #17
It's the cap on SALT taxes dummy TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #18
Yes, Ryan can't understand why California counts ALL the votes and doesn't just declare SFnomad Nov 2018 #19
So in Ryan's world, taking time to count all the votes is "bizarre." SunSeeker Nov 2018 #20
Boo Fricking Hoo Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #21
In his own way Ryan is worse than Trump. (eom) StevieM Nov 2018 #23
I don't quite believe it either Retrograde Nov 2018 #25
Ryan knows on his way out he can start, with a lie of course, a massive clusterfuck to Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #26
Nothing bizarre about it. California counts ALL votes, including provisional and absentee ballots still_one Nov 2018 #27
Why Is Any Reporter Asking Him Anything? ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #28
Hey Ryan, logic is not your strong suit. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #29
Here's how it works: the very earliest returns in any election usually come from rural districts stopbush Nov 2018 #30
What a moron apnu Nov 2018 #31
Paul Ryan doesn't mind showing off Cha Nov 2018 #34
May he spend eternity in a Wisc. ice fishing shack in very late spring, mpcamb Nov 2018 #36
I don't even think that's true DrToast Nov 2018 #37
Ryan's being ridiculous - IIRC, the networks were already projecting at least a 35 seat pickup on Midwestern Democrat Nov 2018 #42
That sounds about right. DrToast Nov 2018 #44
This is what happens when all votes are counted DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #38
Anyone live closer then me, Corgigal Nov 2018 #39
Nothin' bizarre about it, asshole Ryan. Codeine Nov 2018 #40
Ryan is a fucking disgrace to this country Zorro Nov 2018 #41
Why do the GOP hate counting all the votes? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #45

Funtatlaguy

(10,890 posts)
3. Hahahahahaha
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:42 PM
Nov 2018

If we did cheat in California, it still wouldn’t make up for all the cheating that a Republican SOS and Governor has done in so many states like Georgia and Florida.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
22. It may be up to 40 when CA-21 comes in. And I agree about gerrymandering.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:35 PM
Nov 2018

Without it the GOP losses would have been at least 50 seats, probably more like 55.

 

Guppy

(444 posts)
24. We did a great job of getting the vote out
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:48 PM
Nov 2018

We worked extremely hard in Ga 7th and lost by 400 votes. This district is very gerrymandered and Forsyth county saved woodall as their small section voted 2 to 1 for Woodall and took him over the hump. Gwinnett is now blue. We won every other race in our area and kicked out the republicans. When we were trying to get the last absentee and provisional ballots in Gwinnett counted, the county officials were extremely unhelpful who of course were all republicans.

SKKY

(11,827 posts)
43. Absolutely. And Pennsylvania basically proved that....
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 11:45 AM
Nov 2018

...With a shrinking base, Republicans have to resort to voter suppression (Georgia, Florida, etc) or Gerrymandering.

marble falls

(57,364 posts)
5. Coincidentally, I have been extremely disappointed in the bizarre mob rule by the GOP ...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:43 PM
Nov 2018

Congress. That's why we fixed the House, we've rolled up our sleeves and we're going to fix the Senate next.

ffr

(22,674 posts)
6. Is this the same guy who won't bring an investigation, not even a censure resolution against trump??
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:45 PM
Nov 2018

Paul Ryan, you have no credibility.

underpants

(182,951 posts)
8. Let's see
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:46 PM
Nov 2018

People don't like you
You suck at governing
You implicitly support a Nazi in the White House
People want healthcare for themselves and their neighbors and generally see right through your f'ed policies.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
10. "I can't begin to understand what 'ballot harvesting' is."
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:49 PM
Nov 2018

It's called COUNTING ALL THE VOTES IN A FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC MANNER, you half wit.

I know, Republicans just hate that, especially when it means they lose.

diva77

(7,667 posts)
32. Exactly!!! Election integrity IS a nonpartisan issue, but lyin-ryan missed it by a mile with his
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:42 PM
Nov 2018

statement!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
15. Last shot before the door hits you where the good lord split you?????
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:58 PM
Nov 2018

Weasel ... through to the end. Buh Bye..quoting one of your old-time friends.

RockRaven

(15,037 posts)
16. Hey f*ckwit, maybe learn something about the situation before opening your piehole.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:03 PM
Nov 2018

CA significantly expanded mail-in voting this election cycle at the expense of in-person day-of voting (which traditionally can be counted/tabulated almost entirely on election day except for provisionals), and the mail-in ballots take longer to verify and count (more like provisionals). Also it is a long-standing, established trend in CA that mail-in ballots returned earlier in the voting window -- therefore processed by the end of election day -- skew more R and ballots returned later including on election day itself skew more D. So the final counts drifting more D after election day as the remaining ballots are counted is entirely in-line with historical precedent.

And unlike GA and FL and every other place controlled by GOP sh*tstains, we actually want to count every f*cking vote.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. Maybe Californians in Orange County didn't like losing their SALT deduction?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:07 PM
Nov 2018

And that is a republican policy.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,222 posts)
18. It's the cap on SALT taxes dummy
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:11 PM
Nov 2018

You made your bed. You decided to punish high tax, blue states like California and NY.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
19. Yes, Ryan can't understand why California counts ALL the votes and doesn't just declare
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:18 PM
Nov 2018

the Republican a winner, whenever they're ahead.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
21. Boo Fricking Hoo
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:28 PM
Nov 2018

Hey Pauly, do you remember the two presidential elections that mysteriously swung Republican. Take a Mydol and relax. I sure don't need to here election crap from a Republican.

Retrograde

(10,165 posts)
25. I don't quite believe it either
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:18 PM
Nov 2018

I mean, Nunes and McCarthy got re-elected

Anyway, if he bothered to go to the Secretary of State's website he would see that counting was always expected to take about a month. The GOP seems to forget that election results aren't official when their favorite broadcasters think they're going to be the first to make a pronouncement: they are official when the designated election officials say they are.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
26. Ryan knows on his way out he can start, with a lie of course, a massive clusterfuck to
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

interfere with justice and America and he would love nothing more than to do that

These are traitors, we need to understand that.

still_one

(92,454 posts)
27. Nothing bizarre about it. California counts ALL votes, including provisional and absentee ballots
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:23 PM
Nov 2018

I understand why repukes have a. issue with counting all votes



ProfessorGAC

(65,251 posts)
28. Why Is Any Reporter Asking Him Anything?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:24 PM
Nov 2018

He's a quitter. Let him go home to "spend more time with his family."

Punk.

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
30. Here's how it works: the very earliest returns in any election usually come from rural districts
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 04:31 PM
Nov 2018

where 1. there are few votes to count and 2. voters tend to be conservatives.

Rs will always point to these early returns as “proof” they are winning.

In high-population states like CA, it takes much longer to count the millions of actual votes. Most of those votes are coming from urban areas. So naturally, it will appear that Rs are ahead or winning outright when the networks PROJECT the winner a few hours after the polls close. But projecting a winner based on the rural vote is not the same as counting the actual vote.

Ryan knows this, but he is counting on the fact that most R voters are stupid, and that they do not know this. All they see is “I thought the R won weeks ago. Where are all these new votes for the D coming from?”

apnu

(8,759 posts)
31. What a moron
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:23 PM
Nov 2018

1) You are from Wisconsin, why are you worrying about Californa's election system?

2) They have a non-partisan commission that draws its districts unlike the heavy gerrymandering in Wisconsin that kept Ryan in office until he stunk so bad that even that couldn't protect his job.

What a tool he is.

mpcamb

(2,878 posts)
36. May he spend eternity in a Wisc. ice fishing shack in very late spring,
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

Thinking about where he went wrong.

42. Ryan's being ridiculous - IIRC, the networks were already projecting at least a 35 seat pickup on
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:36 AM
Nov 2018

election night based on the results that had already come in - Ryan's acting like there were 14 races that flipped our way after election night that were complete surprises

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
39. Anyone live closer then me,
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:47 PM
Nov 2018

who can drop off some brown boxes so he can pack? He needs something constructive to do.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
40. Nothin' bizarre about it, asshole Ryan.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 09:50 PM
Nov 2018

We got out our vote. When we get out our vote we win, because when it comes down to it there a whole lot more of us than there are of you!

Zorro

(15,751 posts)
41. Ryan is a fucking disgrace to this country
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 09:55 PM
Nov 2018

That shithead can't leave government soon enough for me.

He and the rest of his party of vandals have clearly demonstrated they are unfit to govern.

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