Trump's 'bone spurs' are a lie: Daughter of podiatrist who helped get president out of Vietnam servi
Source: The Raw Story
The daughters of the late Dr. Larry Braunstein, a one-time podiatrist based in Queens, have told the New York Times that their father helped President Donald Trump escape getting drafted during the Vietnam War by fabricating a diagnosis of bone spurs in his feet.
56-year-old Dr. Elysa Braunstein tells the Times that her late father implied that Trump did not suffer from a debilitating foot ailment, and that he offered the bogus diagnosis as a favor to Trump patriarch Fred Trump.
I know it was a favor, explains Elysa Braunstein, whose account was also corroborated by her sister, Sharon Kessel. What he got was access to Fred Trump. If there was anything wrong in the building, my dad would call and Trump would take care of it immediately. That was the small favor that he got.
The daughters also believe their father was assisted by Dr. Manny Weinstein, a podiatrist who first moved into a Trump-owned apartment in the same year that the future president got his exemption from the military draft. The daughters arent certain that Weinstein, who passed away in 1995, helped their father concoct Trumps foot ailment, but they said their father often mentioned Weinstein when discussing the Trump deferment scheme.
Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trumps-bone-spurs-lie-daughter-podiatrist-helped-get-president-vietnam-service
The NY Times story: Did a Queens Podiatrist Help Donald Trump Avoid Vietnam?
In the fall of 1968, Donald J. Trump received a timely diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels that led to his medical exemption from the military during Vietnam.
For 50 years, the details of how the exemption came about, and who made the diagnosis, have remained a mystery, with Mr. Trump himself saying during the presidential campaign that he could not recall who had signed off on the medical documentation.
Now a possible explanation has emerged about the documentation. It involves a foot doctor in Queens who rented his office from Mr. Trumps father, Fred C. Trump, and a suggestion that the diagnosis was granted as a courtesy to the elder Mr. Trump.
The podiatrist, Dr. Larry Braunstein, died in 2007. But his daughters say their father often told the story of coming to the aid of a young Mr. Trump during the Vietnam War as a favor to his father.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hugin
(33,135 posts)I mean, really, it's a lie.
Trump is a liar about having bone spurs.
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)
SMOCKING NEWS!
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)Such a non-surprise
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)mindem
(1,580 posts)The real shock in anything about drumph would be if even the slightest little bit of truth existed in anything he did. Everything about him is a lie.
Botany
(70,501 posts)Fred Trump paid Dr. Braunstein to diagnosis Donny with bone spurs so he did
not have to go to Vietnam.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Namely the doctor did it as a favor in order to gain access to Fred Trump who was a wealthy successful landlord in Queens and Brooklyn. The OP article states that Dr. Braunstein (and presumably Dr. Weinstein) would notify Mr. Trump of any problems on the property and Mr. Trump made sure they were fixed immediately. It's possible the Mr. Trump may have referred new podiatry patients to the doctors and sent them new business.
It's a different kind of payment, but I imagine it happened a lot during the Vietnam War years. It was well known that only the poor kids got drafted in those years, the rich kids mostly got off in one way or another.
Submariner
(12,503 posts)All that KFC and gravy coursing through his arteries from Xmas din-din and and that low life still lives.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,163 posts)Figures this type of person is what the RepubliCONS, little Putin and capitalist kings would offer up to be the leader of a country...very pathetic.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)to Germany, in order to get a refund on the airline ticket.
Guess I went to the wrong doctor.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Since the doctor was renting space in a trump building I can envision there being a threat of losing his lease if he didn't get Tiny a draft deferment. That's just the way trumps operate.
AllyCat
(16,184 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republican lies are dangerous for America
republican lies are dangerous for America
republican lies are dangerous for America
republican lies are dangerous for America
republican lies are dangerous for America
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)trusty elf
(7,391 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)He got a 'Neatness and Order' medal at his military academy.
medal
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)That dude is the biggest slob I've ever seen. And he spreads chaos everywhere he goes.
Freethinker65
(10,017 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)So maddening.
AllyCat
(16,184 posts)Still managed to keep working, bowling, golfing, and all his other activities even though he was too injured to serve the US
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)with Dr. Ronnie Jackson's physical examination report could be very interesting.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,425 posts)Only when it became apparent that you would be eligible for 1-A status would you be ordered to report for a physical.
Trump's medical exemption meant that he would not be called in for a physical.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. It has been 47 years since I went through this.
generalbetrayus
(507 posts)I registered for the draft on my 18th birthday in 1971, but I was not called in for a physical until October of 1972 for the 1973 draft in which I had drawn #5 (!) in the draft lottery in January 1972. Richard Nixon saved me from potential military service by calling off the 1973 draft call-up.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,425 posts)I had a string of deferments. In my case, they were 2-S deferments, as I was in school. They were going to run out in June 1972 as soon as I was graduated. I was called in for my physical in March (maybe) 1972. That physical would determine whether my status would change to 1-A.
I passed! My 2-S deferment ran out, and I enlisted a few days later, in June 1972. The Army stopped sending draftees to Vietnam in July 1972.
IIRC, of course.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)As being the truth, it's a lie, and an act by trump to promote them all. This guy can't be trusted to ever be truthful about anything. Con artist often get into this habit of lying from years of using them to promote themselves with, and to cheat people with. Everything he claims is just another trump lie and he never can back them up. He avoided the draft because he's a coward, unless he has to talk someone to death, which is all he's got, he runs from anything like conflict he personally has to be a part of for others. But he'll be first to demand others fight for him.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)He lies about everything so who would expect anything he says to be true.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)It was probably the sort of thing that happened a lot back then, especially among the more privileged. Opposition to the war was tremendous, but less lucky young men had to flee to Canada to avoid the draft.
Looking back, I wonder if these doctors had any idea what a profound effect their lies would have in the years to come. I'm sure young Donald was not the only guy to get such treatment, but he was the one who ended up as a dangerous president, who was a threat to the entire planet.
Then of course, there is GW Bush. The world probably would have been a far better place if these two spoiled rich kids had to face combat in their twenties like many of their less connected contemporaries.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)People tend to forget just how unpopular that fucking war was, back then. And what steps families were willing to take, to keep their offspring from dying for nothing. Doesn't look too good on a present-day political resume, but there you are. I had a high-enough draft number that a doctor's input wasn't needed. But I had a cousin who went over there, came back with a raging case of PTSD, and ended up blowing his brains out. All for nothing.
EX500rider
(10,842 posts)Unpopular wars be unpopular.
LisaM
(27,807 posts)Cheney, Limbaugh, Bush, (presumably) Trump, etc. Meanwhile, equally privileged people like Al Gore and John Kerry, who DID NOT support the war, went and served.
What bothers me is that the list of GOP draft-dodgers above weren't against the Vietnam war at all.
geralmar
(2,138 posts)In college I joined the Young Americans for Freedom, perhaps the only student group at the University of Michigan that actively supported the war. A month before my graduation I chatted with the YAF vice president who asked me my plans after college. I told him I planned to enlist in the Army and expected to be sent to Vietnam. When he blanched and his eyes got wide I asked what was wrong. He replied: "Just because we support the war doesn't mean we want to go off and fight in it."
LisaM
(27,807 posts)I guess he was honest, at least, but good grief. (And, Go Blue!!)
My generation knew so many men who were severely damaged by the war and I can't really remember any friends or acquaintances who were in favor of the war. I had several friends who married tortured vets and dealt with their nightly terrors.
But then you have a screw-up like GW Bush, who was fortunately able to get out of Vietnam by joining the Texas Air National Guard, but he rarely showed up for duty and STILL publicly supported the war. Then he becomes president and just can't get enough of playing soldier with other people's children. Such deadly hypocrisy does not deserve a pass.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)That cousin of mine killed himself almost 40 years ago, tearing a gigantic hole in my heart and the heart of my family. All for nothing.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)Obviously, we can be opposed to that horrid senseless war and the pain it caused and still be outraged by entitled rich brats like GWB and Donald Trump. GW didn't oppose the war, he just opposed putting his own sorry ass on the line. Trump thought he could buy whatever he wanted and still does. Then he accepted a Vet's Purple Heart at a campaign rally and talked about holding a military parade.
The Vietnam era was a complex time and most things were not black and white. Right now I'm watching reruns of This is Us and I'm really having a hard time getting through the Vietnam War segments. As a woman, it is hard for me to imagine what all those young men went through as they waited for the lottery to be announced. Most of them were just kids.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... likely have qualified to go in as an officer. (He has degrees from Fordham and Wharton by then, I think). He would likely have led men in some capacity. His narcissism and unwillingness to learn anything would surely have resulted in stupid decisions and wasted lives.
Im wildly speculating, of course. But I really have trouble picturing him as capable of anything, let alone leading mean in combat.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)Leadership is not his strong suit. What a nightmare he would have been.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)we would be saved from this nightmare.
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EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)His privilege would have secured a desk job pushing papers.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Every. Single. Thing.
And to top it off, he whines about how much of a victim he is over the holidays.
pwb
(11,261 posts).
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radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Look at Cheney and others who weren't drafted due to suspicious "illnesses."
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radical noodle
(8,000 posts)I'm sure many of the young men who served in Vietnam had other priorities they had to put on the back burner.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)canetoad
(17,154 posts)How fucking cheap the Trumps are; Fred could have slung the podiatrist a few thousand bucks to save his golden boy but no. He traded off the bone spurs story for just doing what any responsible landlord should be doing - building repairs.
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)Do bone spurs go away?
Would they be listed on his physical by Adm Ronny Jackson?
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)and implement immediate quarantine from the world........
RainCaster
(10,870 posts)A proctologist fits right in to that image.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)But let's look at how history is going to see him: worst president ever.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)KWR65
(1,098 posts)MAGA by making the poor do the fighting.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's too late, now. Although it's interesting and confirms what most already knew: it was a fabrication to get the yella bellied draft dodger out of service.
It probably wouldn't have made any difference in the campaign, though. If the Access Hollywood tape didn't have an effect, then nothing would. Still, I'm not fond of these confessions of knowledge of fraud after the damage has been done, rather than before.
Rhiannon12866
(205,299 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)How is that even possible?
trueblue2007
(17,217 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)SARAH K. BURRIS
26 DEC 2018 AT 23:30 ET
Writer and researcher Michael DAntonio recalled an odd encounter with President Donald Trump when the two discussed the ticket he scored out of the Vietnam War.
Wednesday, the daughter of a podiatrist revealed that her father was asked by Fred Trump to examine his son and give him a diagnosis that would prevent him from being drafted.
. . .
The biographer then recalled a time Trump showed off his foot.
This is the odd thing: He may have been examined, the biographer said. He took off his shoes and tried to show me these bone spurs. I didnt see anything.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-tried-show-off-bone-spur-biographer-didnt-see-anything/?utm_source=push_notifications