Graham to Pelosi: 'No Wall Money, No Deal'

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill


BY JULIEGRACE BRUFKE - 12/28/18 12:07 PM EST

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), an on-again-off-again ally of President Trump, made it clear he would not support legislation to reopen the government that doesn't include funding for a wall along the southern border.

"To Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats: No Wall Money, No Deal," Graham tweeted on Friday.

His tweet comes as talks have stalled between Democratic leaders and the White House.

Republicans have repeatedly accused Democrats of failing to take negotiations seriously. The administration recently floated $2.1 billion in border security funding, which was rejected by Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y,). Democrats have said they are not willing to go beyond their $1.3 billion offer.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/423116-graham-to-pelosi-no-wall-money-no-deal

[FreepFryer]

1. Suits us fine, Kompromat Lindsey. Just keep it up, your base sucks at this and so do you. nt

[Renew Deal]

2. For $2.1 add Mueller protection, DACA, and the NY tunnel

[edhopper]

4. I would take

that deal

[angrychair]

12. with all due respect

Absolutely NO

No deals. No compromise. No wall.

[Owl]

26. Exactly

[onetexan]

35. ditto

[hibbing]

52. I will be po'd

I have a feeling our side will offer some money for this pointless wall and I won't be happy.

Peace

[politicaljunkie41910]

66. If our side offers money for this pointless wall, it's because the little bitch in the Oval Office

would rather blow up the government than to admit he has lost and has nothing left to stand on. So he'd rather blow up the ship than to surrender. Trump's not a strategist by any measure. He's a psychopath and a whiny little bitch. He's the kid we all knew, who would turn over the checkerboard when he's one move away from losing, rather than accept defeat. Unfortunately Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dems doesn't live on CRAZY like Trump does. They know that there are real people out there who could go weeks without a paycheck and that's just not acceptable to them.

[Baltimike]

67. this. we don't negotiate with terrorists. nt

[AlexSFCA]

3. pelosi? they still have gop majority in the house

and they dint need a single dem vote in the senate. Mcturtle can just change the rules, they need 50 votes only (olus pence).

[politicaljunkie41910]

65. Obviously Nancy was right when she told them in the Oval Office that the Repugnants didn't have

the votes. Nancy knows how to count and knows how many votes she has and how many they don't have.

[Just a Weirdo]

5. Pelosi to Graham: Fine, go ahead, here's a rope, you'll know what to do.

[C_U_L8R]

6. That stupid wall is going nowhere

And republicans are idiots for getting behind an unfundable boondoggle. They get no points.

[brush]

42. Yep, it's just a legacy thing for trump. He considers himself a builder so...

he wants to leave a wall, sort of as a monument to him and his presidency.

It ain't happening. Pelosi is the new sheriff in town.

Besides who needs the ancient and expensive technology of a wall when an array of much less expensive combination of sensors, drones, GPS tech, cameras, laser projection, etc. in conjunction with Border Patrol agents are available.

We don't need no stinkin' wall.

[louis c]

7. Fuck You Lindsay, You Asshole

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How come you voted for funding the government without Wall money two weeks ago?

In addition, why are we talking about American Taxpayers paying for the wall at all? I thought Mexico was supposed to pay for that.

[bdamomma]

32. exactly

don the con kept on telling his base Mexico was going to pay for it.

Lindsay has drank to much kool aid and putting the blame on Democrats isn't that premature to say when the freaking repigs have been in control. Sickening, what a hypocrite/hypocrites.

[brush]

43. Lindsay "whatever way the win is blowing" Graham.

He'll be spewing just the opposite once it becomes clear the wall won't happen.

[Baltimike]

51. this. nt

[maxsolomon]

8. remember when Obama was President

and the GOP's governing strategy was hostage-taking?

we're right back there.

[Hulk]

9. Who cares what that spineless dolt says..

His usefulness to the government died when McGrumpy died. He is NOTHING but a bitch scream in the Senate. Ignore, and move forward.

Not one penny for this lunatic and his fan KKKlub of buffoons...including the prissy bitch from SC.

[Submariner]

10. If the Democrats have to cave to the higher dollar figure due to "optics" lets get something

for it.

We should make additional demands like NO open hunting season on grizzly bears, NO more prospecting/mining in Bears Ears National Monument, NO relaxation of water quality regulations, and leave ANWR alone. Then we will give you your $2.1b.

These issues are not based on sound policy differences anyway, they were only changed because originally a Black President favored them, and it was a racist low-life POS that would reverse his decisions solely based on skin color.

[angrychair]

13. with all due respect

Absolutely NO

No deals. No compromise. No wall. Clean CR only.

[lark]

16. I want something for this.

I think DACA, Mueller protection and ACA fix would be well worth it for the country. We trade some real protection for America & American workers for 2.1 billion in fake protection. This is better than a clean CR because we get things which we otherwise would never be able to pass in the upcoming congress that are really important..

[The Wizard]

36. Don't assume Repubics bargain in good faith (NT).

[angrychair]

47. No, that is smoke and mirrors

They get what they want: $2.1 billion real dollars that day to build a money pit that wil cost us a lot more than that $2.1 billion that actually achieves nothing.

All DACA kids would get is some vague promises and a fist full of lawsuits and foot dragging for years as republicans and the trump administration does everything they can to resist implementing it. Or republicans make it so conditional that if a DACA kid gets so much as a speeding ticket they can get deported.

Republicans are shit stains and all a “deal” will do is give trump his fucking wall and everyone else a fist full of broken promises and a bunch of ifs, ands and maybes about what they might be able to do about it.

[brush]

44. Yep, we just won the House where the purse strings are. Why give up our power?

We don't have to give trump shit. Every body saw him say on TV that he'd take the hit for the government shutdown, just as we all saw him campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall.

[Hassler]

11. If Graham wants a serious hearing, he needs to do one if his melodramatic Shakespearean soliloquies

Perhaps study his overbaked Boof Kavanaugh performance and dial it back to something more like Claudius right before Hamlet guts him.

[Bengus81]

14. Wow...Lindsey running the show now??

Ok....keep the Government SHUT DOWN for the next month or two and see how your base reacts.

[TexasBushwhacker]

57. He's still jockeying for the AG position n/t

[Texin]

15. At what point will there be a tipping point from which Americans expect

the "adults in the room" step up and end this? At some point, everyone holding out like toddlers - and that includes Dems - are going to start feeling the wrath of the population. I'm not saying that Pelosi or the Dems need to cave, but it is looking more and more like the rethugs' strategy is to just sit on their collective hands and hold their collective breaths until they turn blue. All the while, they will be blaming the holdout on Pelosi. And there are enough people in this country who will begin to believe them. Jeebus.

The rethugs have been saying for almost 40 years on now, that they'd just as soon as whittle down the size of the U.S. government such that they could "drown it in the bathtub." They don't give a shit about the government and even less than that about the people who work within it not being paid. They've been working pretty much full time for 40 years to make it all go away anyway and furlough every person working in it.

[PSPS]

17. LOL. Thanks for your "concern."

[bluestarone]

21. DOUBLE THIS!!!!!!!!

Or maybe TRIPLE IT!!!!!!

[EleanorR]

19. Senate republicans could have used the nuclear option to give trump his wall and avoid a shutdown

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They chose not to. The republicans own this.

[bdamomma]

33. I agree

the repigs do own it.


We have a man/child squatting in the WH.

[Dave Starsky]

20. At no time in your discourse...

Did you mention that Mexico is supposed to be paying for the wall, and not the American taxpayer.

So if our Dems in government want to be "the adults in the room", they will continue to insist that that was, indeed, The Deal. Trump can happily have his wall when the Mexican check for the full purchase price clears the bank, and not a second sooner.

There shouldn't even be any debate about this.

[babylonsister]

23. End this? How? By building a wall??

The toddler in the WH needs to end this.

[bdamomma]

34. they need to erect

that wall around him, he really needs to go, he has done much damage. He is no American.

[brush]

45. Yeah, sure. But we all saw trump on TV say he take the hit on the shutdown...

and also that Mexico would pay for the wall. Let it stay shut. After Jan. 3 we'll have the power of the purse in the House and there will be no wall.

Try another site.

[still_one]

18. How about this Lindsey, you will get your f**king wall if you give us Medicare for All? That would

put them on the defensive

[matt819]

22. I believe the proper response to that is, "OK, no deal."

And any public statement should include the words trump shutdown repeatedly.

[dansolo]

24. Pelosi should put forward the bill that the Senate unanomously passed

Force the Republicans to justify not voting for it this time around.

[onenote]

48. That bill would only fund the government through February 8

and thus isn't much of a solution to anything. In fact, it arguably would play into Trump's hands:

The Senate would pass it and Trump won’t veto it. Instead he would sign it while declaring that by doing so he is showing that he really doesn’t want the government to be shutdown and is willing to give the Democrats more time to work with him on a solution. At the same time, however, he’ll assert that this is a one time event and that he won’t sign another extension or funding bill if he doesn’t get what he wants.

I think the better strategy is to pass two bills in the House: a funding bill for the entire year without any border security money and a separate bill with the $1.3 billion in border security funds the Democrats have previously offered. Let McConnell decide if he is willing to take the heat for blocking one or both of those bills and if he doesn’t test whether Trump is crazy enough to veto either or both.

[Wolf Frankula]

25. Not 2.1 billion

Not 2.1 million. We give them $2.10. Two dollars and ten cents.

Wolf.

[ancianita]

27. Fuck this tool.

[Downtown Hound]

28. No deal then.

Want to carry this on until 2020 when you'll have to face the wrath of the voters? Be my guest. Carry on, asshole.

[brush]

46. Wow! You just hit on it. Refuse trump the wall and he's a sure loser in 2020...

if he's still around. He will not have delivered on his biggest and most visible promise.

[Rocky888]

29. Why is a senator threatening a democratic house member

When the ball is in the republican senates hands right now? They have all they power, but too scared to use it.

[politicaljunkie41910]

64. The Repugnants have had control over the House and the Senate for years now, and certainly for the

past 2 years with Trump. If he and his little bitch wanted to fund that damn wall, they could have. Now Lindsey Graham wants to bully Nancy Pelosi. What a cowardly little bitch he is. He's never stood up to the Liar-in-Chief in the White House, but now he wants to make idle threats to Nancy. Well I'm glad that Nancy will prove that she has more balls than Graham ever had when it comes to standing up to Trump, and likewise his little bitch, Lindsey.

[The Wizard]

31. Call his bluff

We have the numbers on our side. 65% of the people oppose the wall. Time for Lindsey to clutch his pearls and look for the fainting couch. Lindsey is about to come down with the vapors.

[BadgerKid]

37. I've wondered what the wall is really about

DT's ego for sure, but i wouldn't rule out personal financial gain or payback.

[The Wizard]

39. Two things

It allows him an opening to the Treasury so as to loot it.
He has to erect something to demonstrate his virility.

[The Wizard]

38. Senator, I'll give you my answer now.

[MineralMan]

40. OK, Lindsey. So, it will be the Republicans who keep the government

closed. Are you sure that's what you want? Really? I'll bet you're really not all that sure. I'll bet you'll fold. You change your mind all the time. Remember the Supreme Court Justice hearings? I do. You voted for that nasty, rapey man. I remember.

[Electrical Arc]

63. Call him Boof. I do.

[Maxheader]

41. Shouldn't this be looked at as future ammo against

the gop in 2020? ...

[YOHABLO]

49. Why are the Republicans bowing down to a man that's all but been indicted for treason?

The only reason he wants this stupid wall is because it was a campaign promise to his deplorables. My gut says he may also be getting a cut of money from the deal .. but that's just speculation, but so Trump.

[Baltimike]

50. Pelosi to Graham: I have Donnie's balls in my purse and he wants me to give them to Putin

I'll let you know

[cstanleytech]

53. Why should the Democrats negotiate for something Trump said Mexico would pay for Lindsey?

[DeminPennswoods]

54. Last I checked, Mitch McConnell was Senate majority

leader. In fact, afaik, Lindsay Graham is not even part of McConnell's leadership team.

Another fact is the Senate voted unanimously (that would include Graham) to send a clean CR (continuing res) to the House just last week before xmas.

The new House majority will pass a clean CR, the same one the Senate sent over that was torpedoed by Ryan and co, and send it back to the Senate. Shumer will endorse it and McConnell will provide the GOP votes to pass it, probably by a veto-proof margin.

Graham can fillibuster the CR if he likes, but then he will also have to assume the burden of being the one keeping the gov't closed. He can refer to Gringrich about how being the face of a gov't shut down worked out for him.

[LiberalLovinLug]

55. ...

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[delisen]

56. We can't afford a useless and damaging wall.

We need to start clawing back the Republican tax bill giveaway to the billionaires.

[GulfCoast66]

58. Ha! First thing. Continuing resolution. Hell, add a couple of Billions for boarder security

With no wall included.

Then sit back and wait.

What was the Napoleon quote? ‘Don’t interupt your opponent when he is making a mistake’. Or something like that.

[orangecrush]

59. Shove it, Graham

[BlueIdaho]

60. Eat Shit Lindsay. nt.

[Takket]

61. fuck off you dirtbag

Pelosi is taking this town over so get in line and kiss the ring, losers.

[Raster]

62. Good ol' Lindsey Graham...

...fought his way to the top of the pack of the tRump* ball lickers... and that's pretty much all Graham is good for these days.