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Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:11 PM Jan 2019

Mysterious blocked calls went to longtime Trump family friends: Sources

Source: abc

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The calls to blocked numbers, which came on June 6, and after the meeting on June 9, were between Trump Jr.’s cell phone and two family friends -- NASCAR CEO Brian France and real estate developer Howard Lorber, according to the sources.

Both men have close ties to President Donald Trump and actively supported his campaign during the 2016 election.

When France announced his endorsement of Trump’s candidacy – a decision that drew backlash from the professional driving community – the campaign released a statement, penned by France, in which he said Trump’s “leadership and strength are desperately needed.” At a campaign rally in February 2016, France appeared beside Trump, who he said he had known for more than 20 years, and lauded him as a “winner.”

Trump’s ties with Lorber run even deeper, and have attracted the interest of congressional investigators, sources said. In the 1990s, when Trump started exploring real estate options in Russia, Lorber accompanied him on a tour of Moscow. A real estate developer who has done business there, Lorber appeared in a biographical video of Trump that aired on jumbotrons at the 2016 Republican National Convention before his acceptance speech.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/blocked-calls-long-mystery-longtime-trump-family-friends/story?id=60766720&id=60766720&__twitter_impression=true

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Mysterious blocked calls went to longtime Trump family friends: Sources (Original Post) Ellipsis Jan 2019 OP
Where was the location of the recipient(s)? Beakybird Jan 2019 #1
Swampsylvania. flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #2
Thank you. Lulu KC Jan 2019 #4
Two more witnesses for Muller nt Xipe Totec Jan 2019 #3
This is Trump's feeble attempt to deflect what Mueller is about to drop tomorrow. PubliusEnigma Jan 2019 #5
Did Mueller "drop" something on Friday? onenote Feb 2019 #32
The court filings from last Thursday will be made public. PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #33
So who saw the phone records? watoos Jan 2019 #6
No, it's probably from a Trump jr source. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #22
Another piece of possible evidence down without implicating trump directly. Had hoped trump was on Hoyt Jan 2019 #7
The people on the other end of the phone call, watoos Jan 2019 #9
Do they need to confirm it, or does the phone company have the real info? I don't know, honestly. Hoyt Feb 2019 #11
The article is sketchy, watoos Feb 2019 #12
Well, Cohen is not particularly trustworthy. Although trump had to know Hoyt Feb 2019 #14
OK this is it then off to bed, here's one more; watoos Feb 2019 #17
I agree with you, even if it wasn't trump's number. We know he's guilty and a traitor. Hoyt Feb 2019 #18
My, you are objective Hoyt! KPN Feb 2019 #28
Civilian GPS isn't that accurate, maybe within 50 feet or so. Calista241 Feb 2019 #30
Those people could have loaned trumpft their phone. Merlot Feb 2019 #24
Maybe. But it's not nearly as provable as a call directly to trump. It'll take Mueller months Hoyt Feb 2019 #25
Lorber doesn't remember the phone call with Jr. watoos Jan 2019 #8
Phone calls rso Feb 2019 #29
They're asking him about a single phone call he had over 3 years ago. Calista241 Feb 2019 #31
so they are implicated? EveHammond13 Jan 2019 #10
If true, why didn't they clear Trump in these calls ? rickford66 Feb 2019 #13
Stone says he was often called on blocked phones that belonged to Trump's friends. pnwmom Feb 2019 #15
What sources? liberalmuse Feb 2019 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #19
I don't believe for a second that there were easily provable friends who called Trump Jr More_Cowbell Feb 2019 #20
+1 "Sources" are probably Donald Turd Sr. and Jr. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #21
Lorber brought Trump to Russia in 1996. kick. Ellipsis Feb 2019 #23
The Russian Connection C_U_L8R Feb 2019 #26
"Howard Lorber took Trump to Moscow in 1996 to discuss building a Trump Tower there" : TubbersUK Feb 2019 #27

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
33. The court filings from last Thursday will be made public.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:27 AM
Feb 2019

In the past it had happened the next day. (like with Stone or Manafort)

Next week?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Another piece of possible evidence down without implicating trump directly. Had hoped trump was on
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

the other end.

trump was still colluding with Ruskies, at a minimum playing the USA for his own enrichment, but that was an important piece of evidence lots of folks hoped would implicate trump.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
9. The people on the other end of the phone call,
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:56 PM
Jan 2019

have not confirmed the calls. I don't trust the Senate committee. Call me a doubting Thomas until Adam Schiff says it wasn't Trump.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Do they need to confirm it, or does the phone company have the real info? I don't know, honestly.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:00 AM
Feb 2019

You are right about the Senate committee.

But I know I woke up two or three times at night to turn on the news for months hoping to hear george war bush indicted, right up to FitzGerald's announcement.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. The article is sketchy,
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:09 AM
Feb 2019

it doesn't say that the Senate committee subpoenaed the phone records. I wouldn't think that Uday would be allowed to have them. I certainly wouldn't take Jr.'s word who the calls went to.

I just smell a rat here. Schiff has been talking a lot about subpoenaing those phone records, funny how the Senate beat him to it.

Cohen already testified that Trump knew about the meeting.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Well, Cohen is not particularly trustworthy. Although trump had to know
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:18 AM
Feb 2019

something, even if Junior was just bragging to daddy how much progress he was making with the Ruskies. But everyone knows it, except the people who could do something about it don’t care.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
17. OK this is it then off to bed, here's one more;
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:31 AM
Feb 2019

Who is to say that the businessman, businessmen, weren't sitting in Trumps office with their phones on speaker?

I suppose that Mueller has the GPS coordinates of those 2 phones at the time of the calls along with that of Dad's?

This treason shit is keeping me up at night.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. I agree with you, even if it wasn't trump's number. We know he's guilty and a traitor.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:54 AM
Feb 2019

Proving it — especially where Senate and white wingers will be mad enough to do anything about it — is tough.

We’ll get the traitor if no more than indicting his kids and sending trump packing in 2020, a disgraced man.

KPN

(15,644 posts)
28. My, you are objective Hoyt!
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:28 PM
Feb 2019

I'm not comfortable with objectivity in this particular case. Let's just string the guy up by his balls, and then immediately after that, by his neck. Proof be damned!

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
30. Civilian GPS isn't that accurate, maybe within 50 feet or so.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:59 PM
Feb 2019

and with a 50 foot margin of error, that could mean anything, especially if they were both in Trump tower. Certainly not within an acceptable margin required by a court. I'm not sure how GPS trackers on phones work with altitude, so i don't think you could determine what floor they were on.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
24. Those people could have loaned trumpft their phone.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:45 AM
Feb 2019

trumpft could have been sitting in the same room.

They could have called trumpft and told them what don jr said.

Means nothing.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. Maybe. But it's not nearly as provable as a call directly to trump. It'll take Mueller months
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:51 AM
Feb 2019

to prove your theory, but we don't have months. Then, you'd have to convince Senators it's an issue, which likely won't happen. Then, maybe you could convince enough trump supporters to put pressure on their Senators, but that's not going to happen because the trump supporters already know trump is a cad, crook, traitor, etc., and they don't care.

No jury would convict trump based upon "well he could have called the NASCAR crook, who called trump."

Unless the story is inaccurate, this line -- Jr called daddy to report his progress with Ruskies right after meeting -- is over as far as trump. Jr on the other hand, might be caught.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. Lorber doesn't remember the phone call with Jr.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jan 2019

and France isn't answering his phone.

I don't trust Burr on the Senate committee, for that matter, I'm leery of Warner.

I will wait for Adam Schiff to investigate.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
31. They're asking him about a single phone call he had over 3 years ago.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:01 PM
Feb 2019

I couldn't tell you who i talked to on the phone 3 months ago. He's probably just going to say "pull my phone records, and if they say there's a call there, then we had a call."

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
15. Stone says he was often called on blocked phones that belonged to Trump's friends.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:24 AM
Feb 2019

Howard Lorber was a friend Trump met with on June 8, 2016. For all we know Trump was also with him on the 6th or the 9th -- and borrowed his phone.

https://therealdeal.com/2016/06/09/trump-held-fundraising-meeting-with-top-nyc-developers/

Donald Trump is tapping his friends and former peers in the New York real estate development community to help fund his presidential run.

Trump reportedly met with a who’s-who of the city’s top builders yesterday, part of an effort to ramp up his campaign fundraising as he pivots to the general election. Developers reportedly in attendance included the LeFrak Organization’s Richard LeFrak, the Vector Group and Douglas Elliman’s Howard Lorber, Vornado Realty Trust’s Steven Roth, Imperial Companies’ Michael Fascitelli, and Steve Witkoff, Bloomberg reported

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
16. What sources?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:30 AM
Feb 2019

Anyone notice an even more frantic push from the right lately? Somethings going down soon. Or someone.

Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
20. I don't believe for a second that there were easily provable friends who called Trump Jr
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:59 AM
Feb 2019

And he didn't put them forward. I think this is a sham.

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