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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:22 AM Feb 2019

EXCLUSIVE: U.S. Intelligence: Russia Tried to Con the World With Bogus Missile

Source: The Daily Beast



The Russians hyped a cruise missile launch earlier this year. But a briefing by the CIA and a second agency determined that it was essentially a hoax.

Ankit Panda
02.18.19 1:17 AM ET

On Jan. 23, Russian military officials held a press conference showing off what they said was a cruise missile at the center of a years-long arms control controversy between Washington and Moscow.

Except the presentation was essentially a hoax, according to a classified briefing prepared by U.S. intelligence. Neither the missile, nor its launch vehicle, nor the accompanying schematics were what Russia claimed them to be.

The alleged Russian misdirection came just days before the United States announced that it would withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty—the treaty that Russia violated, in the U.S. view.

Almost nothing Russia showed off to support its claims at that press conference had anything to do with the missile the U.S. is most interested in, according to an assessment briefing put together by the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency.


Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-intelligence-russia-tried-to-con-the-world-with-bogus-missile?ref=home

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EXCLUSIVE: U.S. Intelligence: Russia Tried to Con the World With Bogus Missile (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2019 OP
"Stop being mean to my moneybuck masters. Whine." - Comrade Dirty Donny* (R) Achilleaze Feb 2019 #1
You have it backwards. Igel Feb 2019 #12
There sure was a big push for fearfulness and despair in response to this story. Not gonna happen. FreepFryer Feb 2019 #2
Meh. Means nothng... AZ8theist Feb 2019 #3
I believe putin-donald trump The Liberal Lion Feb 2019 #4
Called it! Adrahil Feb 2019 #5
I read once that the Soviets would loop bombers around in air shows Oneironaut Feb 2019 #11
the cold war never really ended, playing the old soviet tricks again. nt yaesu Feb 2019 #6
Great! But... B Stieg Feb 2019 #7
A plot within a plot, within... Maxheader Feb 2019 #8
I'll bet this was discussed in a private meeting with Putin. Qutzupalotl Feb 2019 #9
Russia Tried to Con the U.S. With Bogus President dalton99a Feb 2019 #10

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. "Stop being mean to my moneybuck masters. Whine." - Comrade Dirty Donny* (R)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:35 AM
Feb 2019

"Stupid media better stop reporting the truth now, or I am going into hyper-tantrum mode. You have been warned. Whine." - Dirty Donny* (R)

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Igel

(35,358 posts)
12. You have it backwards.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:16 PM
Feb 2019

Amazingly so, to be honest.

Because during that display Russia invited US investigators to examine the missile so that they would see, firsthand, that no violation occurred.

Trump said, "Thanks, no thanks, I'll believe US intelligence." That time.

Some intelligence folk said, "True, that, but just for show we should have sent somebody to look the missiles over." I paraphrase, of course.

What matters here is the timing of the display, the final decision on withdrawing from the treaty, the time of the revised assessment, and the content of the previous assessments. The details are everything in this story.

The intelligence community's initial assessments said, "It's true." That was reported from Obama's admin to last week.

1/23. Display. With invite to examine the wares.

A few days after that, the US' pulling out of the treaty.

In early February--week or so after the pull-out announcement--there was a the revised assessment presented. How convenient, such timing, having US intelligence suddenly decide that Putin was right, after all, and there's no real violation of the treaty.

The details here *may* be wrong (I'm not going to go digging, but at the time of the withdrawal announcement nobody was disputing publicly that the missiles were real, and the timeline is from the OP.

AZ8theist

(5,493 posts)
3. Meh. Means nothng...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

I'm comforted by the fact the *resident knows way, way, way, WAY, WAY more than the US Intelligence agencies.

He knows lots of words, too. Stable genius...

I feel safe, don't you?

Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
11. I read once that the Soviets would loop bombers around in air shows
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:34 PM
Feb 2019

to make it look like they had an endless array of bombers. In reality, it was just the same bombers over and over. The US didn’t realize this, and would panic spend to try and match the Soviets vast, nonexistent arsenal.

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
8. A plot within a plot, within...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:50 PM
Feb 2019

Scares the hell out a me...Just got done reading an article about skippy and its relationship with
the people that keep americuns safe...these guys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

And folks its pretty ugly what the heads of these organizations say about cheetox...
scary...

Qutzupalotl

(14,329 posts)
9. I'll bet this was discussed in a private meeting with Putin.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:37 PM
Feb 2019

Time to subpoena the translator. If Donnie knew, that’s another instance of traitorous behavior.

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