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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:14 AM Feb 2019

John Kasich to fellow GOPers: Stop denying climate change

Source: Axios

Republicans should stop denying humans’ impact on climate change and start putting forth policies to address it, former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich is set to say at a speech Tuesday night in British Columbia, Canada.

Why it matters: Kasich is a potential 2020 opponent of President Trump — and he represents the leading edge of a Republican Party slowly evolving away from a decade-long position denying that climate change is a real problem. Kasich revealed his plan for his speech in an exclusive interview with Axios Monday.

Flashback: Kasich himself has evolved from when he was running in the 2016 GOP presidential primary. He said then that the overall human impact on climate change is unclear and that “we don’t want to destroy people’s job, based on some theory that is not proven.”

Read more: https://www.axios.com/kasich-asks-republicans-to-stop-denying-climate-change-875bc4b0-a665-45ea-9a33-1cb0a1fd52fb.html

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John Kasich to fellow GOPers: Stop denying climate change (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2019 OP
Now Kasich True Blue American Feb 2019 #1
Still not anywhere near a moderate Freddie Feb 2019 #2
We know what he did True Blue American Feb 2019 #3
100% agree. I've lived in Ohio since 94 and it blows my mind Capt. America Feb 2019 #18
Boehner True Blue American Feb 2019 #19
he has to go out of the country to say it? rurallib Feb 2019 #4
That was my thought, also UpInArms Feb 2019 #5
Pure window dressing from a Koch sucker. Botany Feb 2019 #6
Among other things. True Blue American Feb 2019 #20
They're playing to their base oldsoftie Feb 2019 #7
GOP to Kasich: "Our lies are worth a lot of filthy oil money." Achilleaze Feb 2019 #8
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah . . . . hatrack Feb 2019 #9
Dead in the water. Hulk Feb 2019 #10
Do not forget True Blue American Feb 2019 #11
Precisely - he's another arm of the Kochtopus hatrack Feb 2019 #12
He's talking to a brick wall. Speaking of walls...... nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #13
For those poo-pooing this because you don't like Kasich, lighten up - Rabrrrrrr Feb 2019 #14
True MountCleaners Feb 2019 #15
No, trying to actually DO something about the problem makes him an ally . . . hatrack Feb 2019 #17
Thank you! True Blue American Feb 2019 #21
The republicans like the denial of climate change forklift Feb 2019 #16

Capt. America

(2,477 posts)
18. 100% agree. I've lived in Ohio since 94 and it blows my mind
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:09 PM
Feb 2019

how inept the Ohio Democratic Party is here. Gerrymandering has a lot to do with it but the Dems here also have no farm system to speak of for statewide office.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
19. Boehner
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:38 AM
Feb 2019

Was in charge. He gerrymandered all over the state. Especially his own. Goes all the way from Winchester, up 75, around Dayton, on up to Miami Country.

That will change. We voted for a Committee.

If you ever read Thomas Suddes, he calls the State House, the State House gang. Much like what we have in DC.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/lifestyles/philosophy/thomas-suddes-the-statehouse-money-talks-they-can-hear-you/1dp4QTDCVPzSXnjrSB1vtL/

https://flipboard.com/topic/war/will-a-landslide-win-for-sherrod-brown-nov.-6-put-the-white-house-in-his-sights%3F/f-ad75b1c679%2Fcleveland.com

Botany

(70,504 posts)
6. Pure window dressing from a Koch sucker.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:02 AM
Feb 2019

Kasich stopped high speed rail from coming into OH in order to
satisfy the fossil fuel folks who like cars that burn gas and diesel.

He made fun of the system because it was not perfect from the
start just like the interstate highway system wasn't perfect when
Eisenhower started it in the 1950s.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
20. Among other things.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:42 AM
Feb 2019

That Choir boy, Religious bit does not work for those who know.

I would like an investigation of this last election. Husted is known for his law suits and dirty tricks.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
7. They're playing to their base
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:05 AM
Feb 2019

That base thats too stupid to realize that "global warming" ALWAYS referred to extremes on BOTH ends of the thermometer. I'm so tired of hearing "wheres that global warming?" every time theres a record breaking cold snap

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. GOP to Kasich: "Our lies are worth a lot of filthy oil money."
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:55 AM
Feb 2019

"So screw you. We are going to keep on lying. Ha ha." - GOP

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
9. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah . . . .
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:14 AM
Feb 2019

Know what, John? We don't fucking care.

You're a Republican. You ARE climate denial. You ARE disinformation and lies. You ARE distortion, dishonesty and willful blindness.

And now some meaningless words as you and your cult stumble from denial to bargaining.

Still three stages to go, which, using the timeline from Hansen's first appearance on Capitol Hill in 1988, means that the GOP will be ready for real action on climate by about 2140 AD.

Go fuck yourself, John. We don't care.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
10. Dead in the water.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

He might as well be talking to a wall. Kasich is a tool...weak, plastic as hell, and STILL a repuKKKe.

His interview on Real Time solidified my disgust for the political hack. Opportunist.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
11. Do not forget
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:28 AM
Feb 2019

Trying to kill the Teachers Union! 1.3 million signatures carried to Columbus. Put on the ballot, handed his head!

Cut Education so bad his Republican Legislature replaced the money in the budget.

One Charter School scandal after another, ending in ECOT!

http://www.vindy.com/news/2018/aug/12/ecot-scandal-bloodies-gop/

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
12. Precisely - he's another arm of the Kochtopus
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:32 AM
Feb 2019

No one should let the fact that he can speak in complete sentences (as opposed to President Ambulatory Carbuncle) distract from the reality that he's a quintessential corporate tool, ready to dance the Tax-Cut Two-Step like it's 1981.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
14. For those poo-pooing this because you don't like Kasich, lighten up -
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:31 PM
Feb 2019

we need as many GOPers speaking the reality of climate change as we can get. Even if he's an ass in so many other areas, being a Republican talking about the reality of climate change makes him an ally on climate change.

We're not going to get any real, lasting, concrete efforts done to curb climate change until the GOP decides to help do it, so instead of raking him over the coals for some of the other bullshit he's done, send him a letter of thanks for this one.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
15. True
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:03 PM
Feb 2019

My brother married into a family of wingnuts - his wife's parents don't read and are extremely dumb. I got into a conversation with the dad-in-law about some unseasonably warm weather we were having, and I was explaining what was causing it, and he said, "is it that, or is it the Al Gore thing." He claims he votes Republican because of abortion, but then this extreme Catholic "pro-lifer" ignores evidence that ALL life on earth is in peril and thinks Al Gore is so evil and corrupt that he just made it up.

Kasich sucks, yeah, but SOMEONE has to get through to these morons, and they're so convinced Democrats are inspired by Satan, so it has to be a Republican.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
17. No, trying to actually DO something about the problem makes him an ally . . .
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:02 PM
Feb 2019

Kasich and the other occupants of the GOP clown car can flap their gums until their teeth fall out when it comes to climate, but that doesn't make them an ally on this issue. Consider the Climate Solutions Caucus. They've been around for three whole years, and what have they accomplished in that time? Next to nothing, other than provoking articles pointing out just how wonderfully bi-partisan they are.

In July of 2018, exactly FOUR Republican members of the Caucus had the political guts to vote against a non-binding resolution that called carbon pricing "detrimental to American families and businesses". Four. Not a bill, not a budget, but a non-binding resolution that passed (of course) along party lines of 220-180.

Not that GOP Caucus members were short on big ideas. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) in February 2017 proposed abolishing the EPA, and loudly applauded Trump abandoning the Paris accord, but just nine months later, with re-election just a year away, the Climate Solutions Caucus found a place for him so that he could, y'know, look all reasonable. Another now-former member - the legendary Darrel Issa, with a lifetime LCV score of 4.

Every single Republican member of the caucus voted to speed up approvals of international pipelines like Keystone XL; most voted to open ANWR to drilling (a rider in the tax cut bill); and not one co-sponsored any cap-and-dividend or cap and trade bill put forward by a Democratic colleague.

The only thing the caucus accomplished that approaches meaning anything was voting in July, 2017 against an amendment that would have prohibited the Department of Defense from studying global warming as a security threat, both to military installations around the world and as a destabilizing trans-national force.

I no longer care what any Republican says about climate or the environment; talking doesn't matter any more, and they'll talk and talk and talk until seawater covers the Capitol steps, provided it keeps the money flowing and keeps them in office. They'll talk and talk and talk about the need for further research, and more studies, and how scientists don't really know and on and on and on. The Republican party has spent decades painting itself with lies and bullshit and mendacity and flat-out insanity on environmental issues, and they are poison.

When Republicans start doing something, I'll be inclined to pay attention, and John Kasich will deserve a letter of thanks when he shuts the fuck up and actually does something. I'm not in the habit of handing out party hats and champagne to celebrate someone for having the intellectual firepower and damn-the-torpedoes moral courage needed to point out to me the whereabouts of the sky. John Kasich says global warming is a problem. Yeah, no shit.


True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
21. Thank you!
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:48 AM
Feb 2019

We live here, we know the harm Kasich did to this state!

Stealing from Education to fund the crooked Charter Schools. His friend has 72.

Killing the state tax, raising the taxes that hurt the poor and middle class the most.

The list is too long to mention.

 

forklift

(401 posts)
16. The republicans like the denial of climate change
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:52 PM
Feb 2019

because they have brainwashed their stupid into thinking that anything done to fix climate change will kill jobs.

Someone has to go out there and say that fixing climate change will CREATE jobs and not lose many.

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