Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, Gives Birth to a Boy

[demmiblue]

Source: NYT

LONDON — Meghan Markle and Prince Harry, whose marriage last year brought historic change to Britain’s royal family, on Monday welcomed a son, the first interracial baby in the monarchy’s recent history.

The newborn is seventh in line to the British throne, behind Prince Harry. It is not clear whether the child will receive a royal title, like those bestowed on the three children of Prince William, Harry’s older brother, and William’s wife, Catherine.

The baby is sure to be the object of uncommon fascination, adored and criticized as a symbol of the modernization of Britain’s royal family.

Prince Harry, 34, and the former Meghan Markle, 37, also known as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, have shaken up the royal family in a number of ways: Their wedding last May featured a gospel choir, a freestyling African-American pastor and a gaggle of Hollywood celebrities.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/world/europe/meghan-markle-baby-boy.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

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[Siwsan]

1. Let the tabloid and Markle family feeding frenzy begin. Unfortunately.

Hopefully the parents will quickly make a mad dash for somewhere quiet, where they can enjoy their baby.

[gldstwmn]

36. Agreed. I have seen the most

insane conspiracy theories spouted online. I suspect some of them are partly due to Meghan being biracial. Bless them and their new baby boy.

[PunkinPi]

2. Here's Harry's first comments...

Link to tweet

Proud new papa!

[MissB]

7. I like how he acknowledged what an amazing process giving birth is.

It’s good when men witness it. Gone are the days when men pace in the waiting room.

[PunkinPi]

9. I liked that too! nt

[mulsh]

24. I like he thanked every one including the horses behind him. good show. and please allow me to

extend the first Californian "welcome, dude" to the royal baby. the first dual citizen, British & American, Californian. We're hella happy yer here.( that's a special Oakland, CA greeting, dude.)

[jberryhill]

29. Maintaining that citizenship would be a very poor decision

Unlike many other countries, the US taxes its citizens on all income, wherever they reside or earn that income.

It would be a very bad decision for this child to maintain US citizenship (assuming that Markle has not revoked hers already).

[Jedi Guy]

44. There are several caveats regarding foreign-earned income.

In my case, as a US citizen residing full-time in Canada, none of my income is taxable because I make less than a certain amount. The threshold in 2018 was just over $100k, I believe. Anything over that is taxable, though, and you are supposed to report it to the IRS, regardless of the amount.

That being said, I've never bothered to report my foreign-earned income to the IRS, and I've never been hassled about it when crossing the border. It might be different if I intended to return to the States to reside full-time. We've got no plans to do so, though. The US doesn't regard my wife's profession as a "desired profession" for the purposes of immigration, so we have no real reason to want to leave Canada, and plenty of reasons to want to stay.

[CottonBear]

47. She has a long process ahead to gain UK citizenship.

She is still a US citizen at this time.

[jberryhill]

48. I doubt the ordinary process applies

[CottonBear]

54. She has to go through the same process as everyone else:

Here’s a link to the UK visa & citizenship application process she has to complete:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-42169602

[redstatebluegirl]

27. Yes, that was pretty impressive.

Long gone are the days where men sat smoking cigarettes and waiting to hear if they "got their boy".

[Sanity Claws]

12. Genuine emotion

Good for him. I could not imagine Prince Charles ever speaking like this.

[llmart]

22. Awwww...what a great video. He seems so down to earth.

Unlike Charles.

I love how he made the statement about how "he doesn't know how any woman does this" and it seemed so sincere. When men witness giving birth they should get a new appreciation of women's strength.

Just in time for Mother's Day!

[calimary]

26. My husband certainly did.

But he was there already.

[llmart]

32. Mine too. I insisted upon it.

It hadn't been done before at the hospital where I gave birth, but my ob/gyn was the head of obstetrics and he said he was fine with it. This was when I was in active labor and they were wheeling me into the delivery room. I hadn't said anything to the doctor ahead of time, but I had mentioned it to my husband that I thought men should be in the delivery room when their children were born. Apparently my husband remembered me saying that and I was the budding feminist, so he told the nurses he wanted to be in the room. Could have bowled me over with a feather! He almost passed out. LOL

[50 Shades Of Blue]

28. Thanks! That was so sweet.

[tymorial]

51. I remember when my daughter was born. She was 10 pounds 6 ounces

She was so long and big. I couldn't believe my wife carried her let alone delivered her. It was both an amazing and surreal experience.

[Iliyah]

3. Congrats!

[brooklynite]

4. 368,000 other mothers will give birth today, probably with less publicity

[lapucelle]

17. WOW! That's so true!

[Cha]

49. lol

[LanternWaste]

18. Has anyone argued otherwise?

[Jedi Guy]

19. No, I think brooklynite was just making a simple observation...

[LanternWaste]

35. Half right. But irrelevancies often are.

"simple observation'

Half right. But irrelevancies often are. I'd think you'd know that.

[Jedi Guy]

40. I regret that there's no eye roll emoji strong enough to respond to this post.

I suppose this one will have to suffice.

[Cha]

50. lol

We could do it twice.. !

[underpants]

5. the first interracial baby in the monarchy's *recent* history.

Oh, do tell!!!

[3catwoman3]

13. Here you go - read about...

...Queen Charlotte. One of Queen Victoria's grandmothers. There are lots of other links you can find, if interested.

https://aaregistry.org/story/englands-first-black-queen-sophie-charlotte-born/

[underpants]

30. Interesting

Thanks

[samnsara]

6. yay!!

[samnsara]

8. im like 200th ( maybe 300th) in line to the royal throne so I view this birth as...

....something of an intrusion. Quit taking cuts in front of me baby Sussex





but..welcome!

[renate]

23. wait... seriously? Tell us more!

Through which king or queen?

[calimary]

25. Yeah! Please do tell!

[donkeypoofed]

10. It took soooooo long to finally arrive, figures it was a boy!

I'm so happy for them. Harry looked over the moon!

[OnlinePoker]

21. Probably wouldn't ask for directions. n/t

[NurseJackie]

11. I can't want to see the first photos!

[Hekate]

42. I bet he's ginger like his daddy

Welcome to the world, little guy

[Honeycombe8]

14. I bet they are SO happy. Living a dream life.

How wonderful that must be. What a remarkable young couple.

I hope people are prepared that this boy will forever be in the shadow of Prince George because of his place in line to the crown. Being the son of the second son in the succession. In one sense, that may make the boy feel second place. On the other, that will give him a freedom to enjoy his life without being under such scrutiny, like Harry's life was.

I bet he'll be a handsome young man, given what his parents look like.

[abqtommy]

15. "Interracial" baby?

FFS when will everyone accept that there is only one "race" and that it is the human race? How can any two humans produce an "interracial" baby. We'd do better to examine the reasons that some people use that language...

[NurseJackie]

38. Because "royal progeny with a mixed ethnic background" is more words and too clumsy to say?

We'd do better to examine the reasons that some people use that language...

Because "royal progeny with a mixed ethnic background" is more words and too clumsy to say?

How can any two humans produce an "interracial" baby.

It is what it is. I'd rather that people acknowledge and respect the differences in the ethnic and cultural backgrounds rather than pretend that they don't exist.

We'd do better to examine the reasons that some people use that language...

Or we could concentrate on more vital matters that would make a bigger impact in understanding and respect and celebration of cultures and ethnicities different from our own.

FFS, indeed.

[marybourg]

16. I see no mention of where the birth took place.

Home birth?

[CTyankee]

52. I think I read somewhere that the British have a different view of the childbirth process...

the use of a midwife is the preferred way, with use of what I presume was a "birthing center." It gets away from the over medicalization of childbirth while maintaining proper medical safeguards.

[muriel_volestrangler]

53. Apparently at the Portland Hospital in London

According to British tabloids, anyway:

However, according to the Daily Mail, Meghan was taken to a London hospital by Harry and their security team.

The move was apparently so secret, even senior royals were not initially aware.

Meghan delivered her baby boy – an eighth great-grandchild for the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh – at 5.26am today, weighing 7lb 3oz.

She is believed to have given birth in the Portland Hospital, where Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie were delivered.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/06/meghan-markle-delivered-royal-baby-hospital-home-birth-hopes-dashed-9422029/

[Guilded Lilly]

20. Such happy news! Hurrah :)

[rickyhall]

31. Why do we care? They're royalty, people born with everything.

[Kaleva]

55. I do not know why you care.

If you didn't care, I imagine you would have ignored this thread.

[Olafjoy]

33. Bravo!

Well done Meghan and Harry. Welcome little one

[R B Garr]

34. Love it! Very excited for them, and for

us who enjoy watching the Royals. It’s nice to see Prince Harry settling down and so happy.

[Yavin4]

37. It's the Prince that was Promised!

Born amongst salt and smoke.

[keroro gunsou]

56. it's a baby

not a ham... or Stannis Baratheon

[Talitha]

39. So happy for them!

What a lucky little chap, to have such loving parents.

[Collimator]

41. Hey, I am no monarchist.

But I admit to getting some small fun in following the royal family. As someone who used to design dresses when a little girl, I enjoy noting the fashions that they choose. Yes, it's trivial, but everyone has a few guilty pleasures.

I know that I sure as heck would rather follow the Windsors than the Kardashians. The Windsors' clothes have more cloth in them.

[Hekate]

43. There ya go

[SharonClark]

46. "and the former Meghan Markle"

what stuffy NYT nonsense. She's still Meghan Markle and a duchess!

[demmiblue]

57. Pics/Video:

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Link to tweet

[muriel_volestrangler]

58. "Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/08/duke-and-duchess-of-sussex-show-off-their-newborn-son

I have no idea if "Harrison" is them being super-literal, or it there's any family connection - Archie was 18th most popular in England and Wales in 2017, Harrison 34th (I don't think I've met a Harrison in my entire 50 year life).

[LibFarmer]

59. Congratulations to the new parents

[demmiblue]

60. The Meaning Behind Meghan Markle's Baby Photo Dress

Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry finally introduced the world to their newborn son (who has a name now!) today. And while most people were rightfully focused on baby boy, Meghan’s dress also made a statement. The sleeveless white dress is by Grace Wales Bonner, who is known for her award-winning menswear, though she makes acclaimed womenswear as well. Wales Bonner’s London runway show was a favorite of the fashion set last season, and she’s one of the coolest up-and-coming designers in fashion at the moment. Another good fashion decision from Meghan.

Wales Bonner studied at Central Saint Martins in London — essentially the Harvard of design. Her menswear collections have won many awards, including the Emerging Menswear Designer at the British Fashion Awards, the LVMH Prize, and the L’Oréal Professional Talent Award for her graduate collection. As a designer who is known for tailoring and relaxed menswear-inspired womenswear, it was a smart choice for the most fashion-forward royal. But there’s one more reason that makes this choice especially poignant for Markle. Wales Bonner’s work often references her bi-racial heritage (her father is Jamaican and her mother is English) and the politics of race. As Markle introduced her newborn to the world, she made a point of subtly acknowledging his (and her own) heritage.

https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/meghan-markle-wears-wales-bonner-dress-for-baby-photo.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw