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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:43 PM May 2019

4 B-52s deploying to Middle East amid threat of "possible attack"

Source: CBS News

4 B-52s deploying to Middle East amid threat of "possible attack"
UPDATED ON: MAY 7, 2019 / 12:15 PM / CBS/AP

Four B-52 bombers are being deployed to the Middle East in response to what administration officials said earlier this week are threats of a possible attack by Iran or allied fighters on American troops in the region. Two of the bombers are expected to leave Tuesday from Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, arriving at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar on Wednesday, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

White House national security adviser John Bolton said on Sunday that the U.S. was deploying a bomber task force and the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group to the U.S. Central Command region, an area that includes the Middle East. Bolton said the movement was in response to "a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings." He didn't provide details, but said the U.S. wants to send a "clear and unmistakable" message to Iran that "unrelenting force" would meet any attack on U.S. interests or those of its allies.

"The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces," he said.
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First published on May 7, 2019 / 11:11 AM

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Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-b52s-deploying-middle-east-iran-threat-today-2019-05-07/

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4 B-52s deploying to Middle East amid threat of "possible attack" (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 OP
I'm old enough to remember certain people on the left said Blue_Tires May 2019 #1
this was the bottom line for the trumpkin in my life. mopinko May 2019 #10
Susan Sarandon said that Hillary was "more dangerous" than Trump. NurseJackie May 2019 #18
That is why anyone who voted for Stein is deplorable in my book. Sirota, Turner, Banks, Sarandon still_one May 2019 #26
My only sister did. And I told her that her vote went to Trump... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #52
In situations with family like that, I avoid engaging in those conversations. They are still family still_one May 2019 #55
Her cold letter to me..... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #57
Sorry about what you've gone through. Take care still_one May 2019 #58
Speaking of old the last B-52 was made in Oct 1962 IADEMO2004 May 2019 #29
Not true! patphil May 2019 #33
I am guessing she's been made recently. Now I have to rzemanfl May 2019 #39
I think you bombed my post. LOL IADEMO2004 May 2019 #42
Well, it turns out Trump is the piece president patphil May 2019 #44
and away we go.... dhill926 May 2019 #2
If Impeachment goes ahead.....he's going full wag LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #3
Well, crap. That word "proxy" leaves a lot of wiggle room for Trump and Bolton. dameatball May 2019 #4
Yawn playaseeker May 2019 #5
No, but it'll sure the hell provoke trouble (and give Tiny an excuse to declare war) groundloop May 2019 #21
Kinda depends what they're armed with. Ramsey Barner May 2019 #22
Please check your math. I am 71 and was born in 1947. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #40
Here we go again, plus whatever in Venezuela. Bolton and tRump want to play war. n/t RKP5637 May 2019 #6
U.S. was deploying a bomber task force and ... pazzyanne May 2019 #7
Saber Rattling for now. If drumph and his trash face removal from office, MarcA May 2019 #8
Bombers are not defensive weapons... B Stieg May 2019 #9
Trying to ratchet the tension in the region up to provoke a war before an election. cstanleytech May 2019 #11
MF45 polling at 46% Zoonart May 2019 #12
Remember the Maine? jayschool2013 May 2019 #13
Absolutely. Ghost Dog May 2019 #43
truth or lie? stillcool May 2019 #14
It should be assumed to be a lie, based on three years' worth of lies. nt wiggs May 2019 #16
Trump is eager to drop the big one C_U_L8R May 2019 #15
. sarisataka May 2019 #17
6060 842 GreydeeThos May 2019 #19
The BUFF is just for showing off Blue_Tires May 2019 #20
Let's hope the Iranians don't take the bait Turbineguy May 2019 #23
If Iran would just elect a Southern Baptist as their leader, all this could be stopped. LiberalArkie May 2019 #24
WTF does this have to do with Susan Sarandon? I suggest things are more dire than that. YOHABLO May 2019 #25
It has everything to do with her, and those who not only voted for Stein, but encouraged still_one May 2019 #28
You're blaming Susan Sarandon for Trump being elected? Sorry I can't go there. YOHABLO May 2019 #51
They were a factor. David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Cornel West, etc were factors. still_one May 2019 #56
Much more hysteria and I'm going to punch the Chin music May 2019 #31
What do you call 4 B52's in 2019? Chin music May 2019 #27
Thank God we have a secretary of defense. tymorial May 2019 #30
All 4 of them? patphil May 2019 #32
They might be down to 3 jberryhill May 2019 #38
JFC. Can't Trump just pop a TicTac and grab some pussy instead? Freethinker65 May 2019 #34
The last B-52 I seen was 20 years ago at a now closed airbase yaesu May 2019 #35
Extended service life until 2045. MicaelS May 2019 #41
Even with all the upgrades their still just a carpet bomber as I don't think they have had yaesu May 2019 #45
Nuclear-Armed Cruise Missiles? Baclava May 2019 #47
Fortunately, the Iranians are smarter than Trump, DeminPennswoods May 2019 #36
I'm worried the military won't be ready, or informed... Maxheader May 2019 #37
This could become very serious very quickly. Pompeo abruptly cancelled a trip to Germany and Evolve Dammit May 2019 #46
Oh settle down... magicarpet May 2019 #48
Thank You! McKim May 2019 #49
Iran, weeks ago, has simply said that if attacked by the US, Ghost Dog May 2019 #50
CVN 72 was going through Suez already nitpicker May 2019 #53
Trump admin is making shit up just to start a war with Iran to divert attention from his criminalit. sarabelle May 2019 #54

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. I'm old enough to remember certain people on the left said
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:46 PM
May 2019

Trump was the "peace candidate" and Hillary the "warmonger"

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
10. this was the bottom line for the trumpkin in my life.
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:58 PM
May 2019

mostly he is in it for the conspiracy theories. sure the deep state really keeps us in perpetual war, and spanky tearing that up would mean world peace.

i honestly dont get it. he isnt stupid, he isnt a bigot. he is an old hippie and used to be a good liberal. but he fell down the breitbart rabbit hole.
hoping the impeachment will bring him around.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Susan Sarandon said that Hillary was "more dangerous" than Trump.
Tue May 7, 2019, 05:21 PM
May 2019

She obsessed about her IWR vote. (Oddly, she didn't obsess about the identical IWR vote of John Edward, when she was supporting him... only Hillary's.)

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
52. My only sister did. And I told her that her vote went to Trump...
Wed May 8, 2019, 05:32 AM
May 2019

She fumed when I also told her that Jill Stein was a Russian set up to help Trump win. But that is not the reason she wants nothing to do with me. Her loss.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
55. In situations with family like that, I avoid engaging in those conversations. They are still family
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:09 AM
May 2019

and to maintain peace I avoid those specific discussions.

Sorry about your situation, and hope you are able to work things out on a non-political level


ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
57. Her cold letter to me.....
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:38 AM
May 2019

After 5 to her on my end to keep her in touch with me and my family said right out because of a brother we share, she wants nothing to do with me. No contact, nothing. I did send her a birthday card though.

So a reconciliation is not going to happen. I am dead to her and she is the Evangelical Christian. Go figure.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
4. Well, crap. That word "proxy" leaves a lot of wiggle room for Trump and Bolton.
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:48 PM
May 2019

There have been several references to "Gulf of Tonkin" recently. This brings back memories.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
21. No, but it'll sure the hell provoke trouble (and give Tiny an excuse to declare war)
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:09 PM
May 2019

It won't take much..... one of them strays too close to Iranian airspace, Iran fires a missile in retaliation, and BINGO, we're at war. That's just what Tiny wants to distract attention from his legal problems.

Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
22. Kinda depends what they're armed with.
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:11 PM
May 2019

Bolton is nuts. But we don't want the "smocking gun" to be a "mustache cloud."

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
7. U.S. was deploying a bomber task force and ...
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:52 PM
May 2019

the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group to the U.S. Central Command region, an area that includes the Middle East.

"The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces," said John Bolton.

Follow three fingers back to Bolton, and war is exactly what the tRump administration is seeking.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
8. Saber Rattling for now. If drumph and his trash face removal from office,
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:55 PM
May 2019

now or 2020, who knows. After all their goal is to take U.S. democratic governance
and drown it in the bathtub to further Oligarchic ends.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
11. Trying to ratchet the tension in the region up to provoke a war before an election.
Tue May 7, 2019, 04:58 PM
May 2019

Or in other words just the usual Repugnant tactic.

Zoonart

(11,849 posts)
12. MF45 polling at 46%
Tue May 7, 2019, 05:02 PM
May 2019

which i can't for the life of me believe, but a war would put him over 50 for the first time since he took office.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
43. Absolutely.
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:09 PM
May 2019
At 9:40 on the evening of February 15, 1898, Maine sank in Havana Harbor after suffering a massive explosion. While McKinley urged patience and did not declare that Spain had caused the explosion, the deaths of 250 out of 355[57] sailors on board focused American attention. McKinley asked Congress to appropriate $50 million for defense, and Congress unanimously obliged. Most American leaders took the position that the cause of the explosion was unknown, but public attention was now riveted on the situation and Spain could not find a diplomatic solution to avoid war. Spain appealed to the European powers, most of whom advised it to accept U.S. conditions for Cuba in order to avoid war.[58] Germany urged a united European stand against the United States but took no action.[59]

The U.S. Navy's investigation, made public on March 28, concluded that the ship's powder magazines were ignited when an external explosion was set off under the ship's hull. This report poured fuel on popular indignation in the US, making the war inevitable.[60] Spain's investigation came to the opposite conclusion: the explosion originated within the ship. Other investigations in later years came to various contradictory conclusions, but had no bearing on the coming of the war. In 1974, Admiral Hyman George Rickover had his staff look at the documents and decided there was an internal explosion. A study commissioned by National Geographic magazine in 1999, using AME computer modelling, stated that the explosion could have been caused by a mine, but no definitive evidence was found.[61]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. The BUFF is just for showing off
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:01 PM
May 2019

If war was really breaking out we'd be sending the B-2A Spirit and we wouldn't tell CBS news beforehand....

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
25. WTF does this have to do with Susan Sarandon? I suggest things are more dire than that.
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:41 PM
May 2019

It would be plausible that Trump is creating hysteria, to deflect from matters at hand. That being the investigation into his criminal escapades.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
28. It has everything to do with her, and those who not only voted for Stein, but encouraged
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:46 PM
May 2019

others to do likewise

When she said the Democratic nominee was worse than trump, she deserves every bit of scorn, and ridicule for being an enabler, and helped bring us to where we are today





still_one

(92,136 posts)
56. They were a factor. David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Cornel West, etc were factors.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:20 AM
May 2019

They encouraged people not to vote for the Democratic, up to the day before the election.

There were other factors, but they were part of it. On social media and news outlets they were able to influence some people not to vote for the Democratic nominee. It didn't take much either.

In those critical swing states, the Democratic nominee lost by less than 1%. Jill Stein received 1% of the votes in those states.

In other words, it didn't take much, add the other factors, and here we are today.

We simply disagree.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
35. The last B-52 I seen was 20 years ago at a now closed airbase
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:58 PM
May 2019

I had no idea they were still in service, hell, the B1's are even getting old.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
45. Even with all the upgrades their still just a carpet bomber as I don't think they have had
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:14 PM
May 2019

the weapons bay upgrade. They are also one big bullseye in the sky, like a previous post said, bait.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
47. Nuclear-Armed Cruise Missiles?
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:25 PM
May 2019
The B-52 Bomber: Getting Ready to Carry Nuclear-Armed Cruise Missiles?

The Air Force is now arming its fleet of B-52 Bombers with prototype nuclear-armed cruise missiles to prepare the aircraft for the possibility of launching the Long Range Stand Off (LRSO) weapon.

Through a $250 million deal, the Air Force will work with B-52 manufacturer Boeing to build missile carriage hardware and software, and “test” LRSO integration.

The Air Force has been working with industry on prototyping and design work on the emerging Long Range Stand-Off weapon nuclear-armed cruise missile, set to enter into a new phase of construction by 2022, service officials said. Raytheon and Lockheed, are now working on a $900 million Technology Maturation and Risk Reduction deal for the LRSO.

In recent years, the historic B-52 bomber has been able to carry JDAM weapons externally, but through a currently ongoing Internal Weapons Bay Upgrade, the aircraft will be able to internally house some of the most cutting edge precision-guided Joint Direct Attack Munitions and Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles, among others

The 1760 Internal Weapons Bay Upgrade, or IWBU, will allow the B-52 to internally carry up to eight of the newest “J-Series” bombs in addition to carrying six on pylons under each wing.


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/b-52-bomber-getting-ready-carry-nuclear-armed-cruise-missiles-47582

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
36. Fortunately, the Iranians are smarter than Trump,
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:10 PM
May 2019

Bolton and Pompeo combined. Don't forget that Pooty-Poot is Iran's ally. He'll call Trump, tell him to back off and that will be that.

Maxheader

(4,372 posts)
37. I'm worried the military won't be ready, or informed...
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:17 PM
May 2019

And will drop some special service guys into a really bad situation..

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
46. This could become very serious very quickly. Pompeo abruptly cancelled a trip to Germany and
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:23 PM
May 2019

the US provocation on multi fronts (Venezuela, Iran) suggests that they really need a distraction to current political realities here. Bolton's wet dream to attack Iran, and Pence for Venezuela. There is so much we don't know as to who is calling the shots and getting the ear of Orange Julius. One thing is clear, they are not looking out for US.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
48. Oh settle down...
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:13 PM
May 2019

War is simply a massive transfer of wealth.

It drains the treasury of wealth and fortune of the average tax payer and moves that money into the hands and pockets of the wealthy elite.

This is done on a massive scale - where the smokescreens of patriotism and freedom are clamored about as the reason to fight wars.

But the truth of the matter is some people get fucking rich when war is declared. And during war time accounting and cost justifications are pretty much heaved out the window, so war time returns on investments tend to be astoundingly profitable for the select few.

If you hate hyper capitalism,.. maybe you should move somewheres else.

Signed,
John Bolton the Warmonger.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
49. Thank You!
Tue May 7, 2019, 11:10 PM
May 2019

Thank you! You explained the basis of our wars of choice so well! This is the distraction they need from their present troubles. But Trump no longer has the political capital to do this. The Iranians ARE smarter and will not take the bait.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
50. Iran, weeks ago, has simply said that if attacked by the US,
Wed May 8, 2019, 04:02 AM
May 2019

they can retaliate, defensively, by attacking US assets in the region /and by closing the Strait of Hormuz.

This was a warning in response to the aggressive posturing of the US.

Israel and the USA's claims that Iran is threatening to attack are psyops, used to justify an even more aggressive US posture and threats.

 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
54. Trump admin is making shit up just to start a war with Iran to divert attention from his criminalit.
Wed May 8, 2019, 05:59 AM
May 2019

Are we going to stand for this. Where are our Dems in Congress? Where is the rest of the world?

When will we learn that we just can't use our bullying power to starve people and deny them medicine and other goods and believe they won't fight back? What is wrong with us?

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