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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:41 AM May 2019

Donald Trump blames 'write offs' and 'depreciation' for $1 billion in business losses

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump blamed "write offs" and "depreciation" for millions in business losses in the 1980s and 1990s detailed in tax returns that are the subject of a new news report.

Trump also disputed the New York Times story saying his businesses lost more than $1 billion from 1985 to 1994, but did not specify his objections.

"Real estate developers in the 1980’s & 1990’s, more than 30 years ago, were entitled to massive write offs and depreciation which would, if one was actively building, show losses and tax losses in almost all cases," Trump tweeted early Wednesday.

In a pair of tweets, he added: "Much was non monetary. Sometimes considered “tax shelter,” ... you would get it by building, or even buying. You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes....almost all real estate developers did - and often re-negotiate with banks, it was sport."

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/08/donald-trump-blames-write-offs-and-depreciation-1-b-losses/1138894001/






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Donald Trump blames 'write offs' and 'depreciation' for $1 billion in business losses (Original Post) demmiblue May 2019 OP
Coming from duforsure May 2019 #1
Isn't over a BILLION DOLLARS of depreciation indicative of bad investment? forgotmylogin May 2019 #45
Let me start by explaining exactly how and why I do what I do blugbox May 2019 #2
Hahahajahahahahahahaha ... marble falls May 2019 #3
I hope that people don't start calling Trump a Loser. watoos May 2019 #4
That would be so sad. lagomorph777 May 2019 #33
I'm sure all his fake stiffed vendors feel better now BeyondGeography May 2019 #5
Sport, it is a sport . . . Iliyah May 2019 #6
And he's a known cheater Harker May 2019 #22
All of that business jargon would be more convincing genxlib May 2019 #7
So essentially, PatSeg May 2019 #13
He still can't do anything right, I mean, he can't be a "successful" criminal... Lock him up. May 2019 #14
How on earth did someone PatSeg May 2019 #27
Not incompetent. A very skilled fraudster. lagomorph777 May 2019 #32
He might be good at fraud, PatSeg May 2019 #42
I know few specifics, (on How?) but the Russians helped him get this far. Stuart G May 2019 #35
Why? Money laundering & create chaos in West to give Russia a freer hand on world stage. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #41
Yes PatSeg May 2019 #43
".....who keeps his mouth shut and doesn't get caught"...Yes, "He feels he's above the law..." Stuart G May 2019 #37
Seems that I heard his tax returns were far too complicated for mere mortals to understand underpants May 2019 #8
So is it a sport or a fake sport? Docreed2003 May 2019 #9
Professional wrestling, aka acting on steroids eom Maeve May 2019 #11
Lmao... Docreed2003 May 2019 #12
he could release his tax returns and prove it rurallib May 2019 #10
au' contraire, prsident(e) pazzyanne May 2019 #15
So tax evasion is nothing but sport to Trump meow2u3 May 2019 #16
Right ck4829 Jun 2019 #49
In the roaring 90s, Trump was a loser dawg day May 2019 #17
MAD Magazine had him pegged way back in 1992. Dave Starsky May 2019 #18
MAD was decades ahead of their time. lagomorph777 May 2019 #31
MAD used to be based in New York City. Dave Starsky May 2019 #40
Wow ck4829 Jun 2019 #48
he bankrupt casinos....he bankrupt suppliers, contractors and workers beachbum bob May 2019 #19
Seems a House tax committee needs to investigate tax laws... sanatanadharma May 2019 #20
Blaming expenses on his losses? Genius! ArizonaLib May 2019 #21
Haha ck4829 Jun 2019 #47
Glad you appreciated that ArizonaLib Jun 2019 #52
Know What Commercial Bankers Say? BlueIdaho May 2019 #23
Russian money arrived just in time BeyondGeography May 2019 #30
Well said and great link - thanks. BlueIdaho May 2019 #39
Yep ck4829 Jun 2019 #46
The MFer-#45 needs a plan to become profitable. I suggest an innovative approach. NCjack May 2019 #24
Apparently it is working. lagomorph777 May 2019 #29
America's Biggest Loser William Seger May 2019 #25
write-offs and depreciation -- but mostly write-offs, arising from LOSING A BILLION DOLLARS! unblock May 2019 #26
The "Fraud Defense" - brilliant, President Turd. Just brilliant. lagomorph777 May 2019 #28
I've never cared to research Trump's business, but... OilemFirchen May 2019 #34
Sooo, what you're saying, Drumpf, is that you don't know how to manage assets. ffr May 2019 #36
Show us, Donald. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue May 2019 #44
Kick ck4829 Jun 2019 #50
He'll be exposed duforsure Jun 2019 #51

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. Coming from
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:56 AM
May 2019

Our illegitimate corrupt serial liar president who recently bragged openly how good he is at coming up with excuses. Was his tax scam from skimming profits , then claiming losses to pay zero in taxes?

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
45. Isn't over a BILLION DOLLARS of depreciation indicative of bad investment?
Wed May 8, 2019, 01:51 PM
May 2019

And therefore not a great "business mind"?

blugbox

(951 posts)
2. Let me start by explaining exactly how and why I do what I do
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:56 AM
May 2019

And let me finish by exclaiming that this is a fake news hit job.

Don, you are a dumb FUCK.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
5. I'm sure all his fake stiffed vendors feel better now
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:02 AM
May 2019

Oh, and please feel free to fill us in on that mysterious $52 million in “interest income” in 1989.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
7. All of that business jargon would be more convincing
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

Except for the actual bankruptcies that followed him around.

If they were just strategies used to milk the tax advantages, they wouldn't have ended up in ultimate failure.

PatSeg

(47,401 posts)
13. So essentially,
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:39 AM
May 2019

he was even a failure at being a cheat. The guy just couldn't do anything right. Yes, definitely the "biggest loser"!

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
14. He still can't do anything right, I mean, he can't be a "successful" criminal...
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:51 AM
May 2019

... and by "successful" I mean one who keeps his mouth shut and doesn't get caught.

He feels he's above the law and he HAS to show it off on Twitter every effin day...

PatSeg

(47,401 posts)
27. How on earth did someone
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:15 AM
May 2019

this incompetent get this far? And why do so many people still support him? Mind-boggling!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
32. Not incompetent. A very skilled fraudster.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
May 2019

He persuaded the Government that he's a big loser.
He persuaded Putin that he's a soft target.
He persuaded the Despicables that he's cool.

PatSeg

(47,401 posts)
42. He might be good at fraud,
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

but he still lost money repeatedly, which would make him incompetent as a con artist. Whenever Trump had a success, it seems it was just a fluke or dumb luck. His skills came in covering it up.

As for Putin, Trump WAS a soft target, though he probably sees himself differently.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
35. I know few specifics, (on How?) but the Russians helped him get this far.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:31 AM
May 2019

Why?... Don't know why, but your guess is as good as mine.

PatSeg

(47,401 posts)
43. Yes
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:44 PM
May 2019

Putin plays the long game and probably has been nurturing this relationship for many years. I have a feeling that Trump paid off far beyond Putin's wildest dreams.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
37. ".....who keeps his mouth shut and doesn't get caught"...Yes, "He feels he's above the law..."
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:39 AM
May 2019

His loses are the laughing stock of this country and the world.

He calls it, "..fake news" , but Mr. Trump has the ability (in this case) to clarify the "fake news" by simply releasing his taxes. That is pretty simple.

underpants

(182,773 posts)
8. Seems that I heard his tax returns were far too complicated for mere mortals to understand
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:16 AM
May 2019

but he just explained it in two tweets.

Odd that.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
9. So is it a sport or a fake sport?
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:18 AM
May 2019

Always an excuse with this asshole and never an acceptance of responsibility or shred of remorse

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
15. au' contraire, prsident(e)
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:05 AM
May 2019

How do you explain bankruptcies while using "write offs" and depreciations when two of your bankruptcies occurred during the time period covered by the leaked tax records from 1985 through 1994?

Years of trump's bankruptcies were 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
17. In the roaring 90s, Trump was a loser
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:21 AM
May 2019

Lawrence O'Donnell pointed out last night that Trump lost most of this money during a time of great innovation and the creation of two entirely new industries, the cell phone industry and the Internet.

At a time when so many others became legitimate billionaires, Trump couldn't even make a profit at all. Also, really successful real estate people were making billions legitimate billions in New York City real estate.Trump is a really good example of how you can live high by losing other people's money, your father, your siblings, and your employees.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
40. MAD used to be based in New York City.
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019

Every New Yorker has known for decades what a worthless shitheel he is.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
19. he bankrupt casinos....he bankrupt suppliers, contractors and workers
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:25 AM
May 2019

and he says it was "write offs"? LOL

People of Alantic City may disagree as well as investors.. But this is hardly new frickin news

sanatanadharma

(3,699 posts)
20. Seems a House tax committee needs to investigate tax laws...
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:33 AM
May 2019

Seems a House tax committee has valid reasons to investigate tax laws to see if the tax-payer is being ripped off.
Clearly, there is necessity to invoke the law requiring the income taxes of Trump (top dog rep of the ruining class) to be made available to committee.

Trump said so, as he is exposing the rot of the rich, and reveling in revealing the dirty secrets of super-class socialism.
Some sarcasm!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
23. Know What Commercial Bankers Say?
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:56 AM
May 2019

If you don’t show a profit, you can’t get a loan. American banks stopped returning Shitler’s calls because he is a financial train wreck.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
30. Russian money arrived just in time
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:23 AM
May 2019
...for more than three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to the Russian Mafia held the deeds to, lived in or ran criminal operations out of Trump Tower in New York or other Trump properties. I mean that many of them used Trump-branded real estate to launder vast amounts of money by buying multimillion-dollar condos through anonymous shell companies. I mean that the Bayrock Group, a real estate development company that was based in Trump Tower and had ties to the Kremlin, came up with a new business model to franchise Trump condos after he lost billions of dollars in his Atlantic City casino developments, and helped make him rich again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html?utm_term=.35de74a194c6

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
24. The MFer-#45 needs a plan to become profitable. I suggest an innovative approach.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

The MFer-#45 should bundle his debts into marketable packages. Then, sell these packages, for example, to Russia, China, Saudi Arabia. The packages could be made attractive to buyers by including secret promises to provide favorable treatment by U.S. Government. Yeah, he should try that -- might work.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
25. America's Biggest Loser
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

O'Donnell said last night that his losses during that time were the largest of any individual in the country, and they were 1% of all losses reported.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
28. The "Fraud Defense" - brilliant, President Turd. Just brilliant.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:21 AM
May 2019

"No, I really am rich - I just committed massive tax fraud, that's all!"

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
34. I've never cared to research Trump's business, but...
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:29 AM
May 2019

was he a sole proprietor? Or, were his various businesses incorporated?

TIA for any info from our intrepid DUers.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
36. Sooo, what you're saying, Drumpf, is that you don't know how to manage assets.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:36 AM
May 2019

Which is what every business person is responsible for. Everyone has those expenses too.

You are a fraud!

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
51. He'll be exposed
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:37 AM
Jun 2019

For many,many counts of tax fraud and money laundering, then claim everyone does it, and claim he's the victim, then he'll accuse others, his opposition of crimes and try to get Barr to prosecute them for his false claims.

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