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riversedge

(70,213 posts)
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:03 AM May 2019

Trump Goes Cold On Bolton Over Venezuela: He Wants To Get Me 'Into A War'

Source: TPM

May 9, 2019 8:39 am

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According to administration officials and people close to the White House who spoke to the Post, Trump’s ire is directed at John Bolton primarily over Bolton’s penchant for intervening in other country’s wars.

While Trump jokingly suggested this week that Bolton wants to get him “into a war,” he’s also been complaining that Bolton may have miscalculated Maduro and pushed Trump “into a corner,” in the Post’s words. Despite the irritation, Trump doesn’t plan to oust his national security adviser anytime soon, two senior administration officials told the Post.


Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-bolton-venezuela-war



Trump is lazy and lets others do his work--then whines about it.




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Trump Goes Cold On Bolton Over Venezuela: He Wants To Get Me 'Into A War' (Original Post) riversedge May 2019 OP
Duh... how many decades did it take for you to realize that, Moron? hlthe2b May 2019 #1
+1 JonLP24 May 2019 #18
As usual, Trump is the last person on Earth to see the obvious truth. lagomorph777 May 2019 #36
To Trump, "the buck stops here" means "the important thing is, I get paid" (nt) muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #2
Heeeee! lagomorph777 May 2019 #37
Putin ordered his slave boy dump joe_stampingbull May 2019 #3
Yup! Johnyawl May 2019 #11
Putin won't let him attack Iran either. Who knew the Russians comradebillyboy May 2019 #14
I'm not sure about that JonLP24 May 2019 #19
Fortunately the Iranians don't seem to be taking the bait. comradebillyboy May 2019 #20
Putin has it under control, don't worry Donnie jberryhill May 2019 #4
Dummy-#45 hired Bolton to get "into a war" -- now complains about NCjack May 2019 #5
In this rare case DT is right on this one Dorn May 2019 #6
Putin helped Maduro refine his oil watoos May 2019 #7
Yes, that is what Putin has in mind Perseus May 2019 #26
Thought you only hired the best people, Donnie. tanyev May 2019 #8
Nobody puts Trumpy in the corner! forgotmylogin May 2019 #9
so when war breaks out he will blame bolton & be the war time president he has always wanted. nt yaesu May 2019 #10
Funny... 2naSalit May 2019 #12
Actually..... Turbineguy May 2019 #13
"We are better off with Putin in charge than trump" Perseus May 2019 #27
"We are better off with Putin in charge" The Ukrainians may not agree with that. nt EX500rider May 2019 #43
Hence, the difference between leadership and stupidity. Firestorm49 May 2019 #15
Don't listen to Bolton Trump JonLP24 May 2019 #16
Exactly Polybius May 2019 #40
Bolton thought he could manipulate Trump into embracing his comradebillyboy May 2019 #17
.... BumRushDaShow May 2019 #21
Bolton would bomb his own mother Monsieur_Grumpe May 2019 #22
Lady, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up. lapislzi May 2019 #23
"Trump is lazy and lets others do his work--then whines about it." Perseus May 2019 #24
let me finish the quote from the orange asshole.. Javaman May 2019 #25
A war with Iran would make Vietnam and the Iraq debacle look like a walk in the park. gordianot May 2019 #30
no kidding. nt Javaman May 2019 #34
You didn't know that when you hired him? louis-t May 2019 #28
Nobody knew Bolton's history on the subject of war! pazzyanne May 2019 #29
sounds like Vlad WhiteTara May 2019 #31
No shit Sherlock... BlueIdaho May 2019 #32
There are two things that a Republican president MUST do Yavin4 May 2019 #33
He's not the natural warmonger like Bush and Bolton Polybius May 2019 #39
It's not up to him. Yavin4 May 2019 #42
Nothing he says can be taken at face value elias7 May 2019 #35
As much as it pains me, I gotta give a tiny ounce of credit to him Polybius May 2019 #38
They're just playing "Good Cop/Bad Cop", and not very well, either Blue_Tires May 2019 #41
This is a good turn of events because Bolton is dangerous. He is a psychopathic hawk. Nitram May 2019 #44

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. As usual, Trump is the last person on Earth to see the obvious truth.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:35 PM
May 2019

Bolton is a dangerous kook, even by Trump standards.

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
14. Putin won't let him attack Iran either. Who knew the Russians
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:41 AM
May 2019

would be a moderating influence on Trump's catastrophic foreign policy.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. Dummy-#45 hired Bolton to get "into a war" -- now complains about
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:11 AM
May 2019

Just-Plain-Right-Wing-Nut Bolton. Those two stumble bums are heading us for a disaster.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. Putin helped Maduro refine his oil
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:16 AM
May 2019

when he was in a pinch. It looks like Putin told private Trump to stand down. Venezuela may be a nice location for a Russian military base.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
26. Yes, that is what Putin has in mind
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

and the repercussions to USA will be dire...I wish other people could open their eyes and understand exactly what you presented.

Someone on this blog said "we are better off having Putin rule"??? Are you kidding? That should be the last thing we should want.

I am not a fan of Bolton, but this time he is 100% correct, but the buffoon is a simpleton who doesn't understand and the fact that, like you said, he is taking orders from his daddy Putin.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
9. Nobody puts Trumpy in the corner!
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:20 AM
May 2019

Now Barr attempts the "over the head airplane press" with McDonald. Good luck to both.

2naSalit

(86,595 posts)
12. Funny...
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:33 AM
May 2019

he was all into it until his phone call to his boss last week. Pootie hates Bolton, he's too obvious.

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
13. Actually.....
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:34 AM
May 2019

We are better off with Putin in charge than trump doing what comes natural.

You hire Bolton, that way you have somebody who can talk you into having a war. And then you blame him when it happens. How does Putin feel about Trump attacking Iran? Trump has to attack somebody, in order to get re-elected (well, steal the election actually but...) so it would have to be somebody Putin has no interest in.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
27. "We are better off with Putin in charge than trump"
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019

You are kidding, right?

If you listen to Bolton explain the situation in Venezuela, and you have a grasp of the reality in that country, then you would understand that Bolton is 100% correct, and that he understands very well the situation, the history and the repercussions of keeping the Maduro regime alive.

You may not like Bolton, neither do I, but we cannot become fanatics and just because someone we don't like says something we dismiss it immediately, we have the ability to analyze, to learn, and this time Bolton is right.

The danger is that the buffoon is taking orders form his daddy who wants him out of Venezuela, and my question to you is, if Putin wants Venezuela, is that a good thing for Venezuelans and the hemisphere?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. Don't listen to Bolton Trump
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:44 AM
May 2019

He shouldn't have hired him in the first place. I don't want to go back to neocon nightmares.

Polybius

(15,404 posts)
40. Exactly
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

As much as I can't stand Trump, I can't stand neo-con warmongers like Bush and Bolton more. Bolton was for all of the wars that Trump said was a mistake. Why was he even hired?

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
17. Bolton thought he could manipulate Trump into embracing his
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:45 AM
May 2019

warmongering. Bolton just got too big for his britches, the intolerable sin in the Dotard's administration.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
23. Lady, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up.
Thu May 9, 2019, 09:52 AM
May 2019

Bolton has never pretended to be anything other than what he is.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
24. "Trump is lazy and lets others do his work--then whines about it."
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:03 AM
May 2019

No, he is not lazy, he is just evil.

Putin gave orders to the buffoon to not intervene in Venezuela, that is more clear now, although to me it has always been very clear.

Although I am not a fan of Bolton, he does understand the need to intervene in Venezuela, he understand that if the USA does not act, Bolton has a clear grasp of the reality in Venezuels, and that if Putin takes over, like cancer, his dominion will spread through South and Central America to use as base to take over the USA. I am sure many think that is Science Fiction, and so did the people from Venezuela and other places where dictatorship took over and Putin helped thus owning the dictators themselves.

I am appalled by the lack of understanding that many people and Democratic leaders have with regards to the danger of not getting the Maduro regime out presents to the future of the hemisphere and the USA. Putin has dreams of being written in the history books as "Vladimir The Great", make no mistake about it, and his definition of becoming great is one of invasions and toppling the number one power in the World, this is not science fiction, it is a reality.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
25. let me finish the quote from the orange asshole..
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

"He Wants To Get Me 'Into A War...but it's not with IRAN!!!!!"

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
30. A war with Iran would make Vietnam and the Iraq debacle look like a walk in the park.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:17 AM
May 2019

Go ahead assholes close the Straits of Hormuz create a world wide depression of unmanageable consequences.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
32. No shit Sherlock...
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:04 AM
May 2019

If you could pull yourself away from your burgers, fries, and chocolate cake long enough to read ANYTHING Bolton has ever written, you would know he’s a Chickenhawk of the first order.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
33. There are two things that a Republican president MUST do
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019

1. Cut taxes on the wealthy.
2. Engage in a war.

Trump delivered on number 1, but not number 2. He's being pushed hard to start a war either in Iran or Venezuela, and in the end, he will do it.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
42. It's not up to him.
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:15 PM
May 2019

Trump is at a major conflict between what Putin wants and what the Imperialist arm of the Republican establishment wants.

When the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee chairman subpoenaed Trump Jr. , that was a shot across Trump's bow. "Give us our war or we'll take you down".

However, Trump is also in debt to Putin, and he cannot cross him. Putin needs to project Russia's imperialist ambitions on the world stage in order to maintain power at home.

In the end, Trump is a con man who doesn't pay back his debts. He just finds another sucker to bail him out and keep going. This time though, there are no other suckers to bail him out.

Polybius

(15,404 posts)
38. As much as it pains me, I gotta give a tiny ounce of credit to him
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:52 PM
May 2019

Bolton is a disgusting warmonger. As bad as Trump is, he doesn't appear to be the warmonger like Bush and Bush (so far).

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
41. They're just playing "Good Cop/Bad Cop", and not very well, either
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019


Trump's war boner is just as large as Bolton's
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