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brooklynite

(94,540 posts)
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:11 PM May 2019

CEO who plundered massive city credit union pleads for mercy

Source: Crain's New York Business

Federal prosecutors want former Municipal Credit Union Chief Executive Kam Wong to serve up to a decade in prison—roughly a year for every million dollars he admitted to stealing from his institution.

"It is difficult to overstate the damage that the defendant caused—damage so severe that the credit union was recently placed into receivership," the prosecutors wrote in a May 20 sentencing memo.

State regulators seized Municipal Credit Union, the city's largest credit union, on May 17 and handed control to the National Credit Union Administration. The plundered institution has some 588,000 members, many of them public-sector employees.

Wong's attorneys seek leniency for their 63-year-old client. They describe the fallen executive as "a walking testament to human frailty and the dangers of unchecked addiction" in their own memo to U.S. District Judge John Koeltl, who is to sentence Wong June 4. They attributed his crimes to a gambling addiction.

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CEO who plundered massive city credit union pleads for mercy (Original Post) brooklynite May 2019 OP
So sick of this CDerekGo May 2019 #1
Exactly. I wonder what kind of sentence you or I would get for the same offence. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #4
Translation: Wong was a rich businessman. Prison is for poor people. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #2
I would put him into a minimum wage job and Sherman A1 May 2019 #3
The unfortunate thing here too is that this was a Credit Union BumRushDaShow May 2019 #5
Unchecked addiction? First time I have heard of this excuse being used in an attempt to... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #6
Local official got 4 years for stealing 6.7M, blamed it on addiction pimpbot May 2019 #7
Yes, sadly. A person who steals a pack of cigs probably would get more than 4 years! Sad. ... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #8
And if he sold the cigarettes on the street corner Mr.Bill May 2019 #12
It's scary, isn't it? One of my best friends is black, and his biggest fear is getting pulled ... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #13
more from article Demovictory9 May 2019 #23
Dianna Durban was Republican Secretary of State in New Mexico (2011-2015) PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #15
Until some of these CEOs, company presidents and corrupt politicians start spending rurallib May 2019 #9
seems i repeat it seems that "most " buissness operators are scoundrells. AllaN01Bear May 2019 #10
The amount of fucks I give for criminals like this: Initech May 2019 #11
All such crimes should be; you get out when you've paid up The Mouth May 2019 #14
Speaking as someone who dealt with being addicted to a substance... Jedi Guy May 2019 #16
Correct me if I'm wrong The Mouth May 2019 #25
It is indeed. Jedi Guy May 2019 #28
womp womp you thief WhiteTara May 2019 #17
Frankly I think the prosecutors are being overly generous in only asking for 10 years. cstanleytech May 2019 #18
The federal government has pretty complicated sentencing guidelines Massacure May 2019 #21
Looks like none of the stolen money can be recovered. Prison for life or NCjack May 2019 #19
Wasn't he on "Hawaii five -O"? gay texan May 2019 #20
Ten years sounds about right and ought to be enough time to work through that addiction. marble falls May 2019 #22
Screw him.... Historic NY May 2019 #24
This is where I bank Sanity Claws May 2019 #26
Only a 10 year sentence? Sounds far too lenient to me. LonePirate May 2019 #27

CDerekGo

(507 posts)
1. So sick of this
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:15 PM
May 2019

If this individual gets off for less than 10 years, we all know what's wrong with our Judicial System. How many POC are in Jail/Prisons for how many years for possession of 1g or less of Marijuana. But yet, here's someone, that was put into a position, a position of trust, who STOLE MILLIONS, and now wants leniency? "F" that! Knew what they were doing, with each and every bet placed!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. I would put him into a minimum wage job and
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:20 PM
May 2019

garnish his entire paycheck for restitution to help him understand some of the damage he has caused.

BumRushDaShow

(128,954 posts)
5. The unfortunate thing here too is that this was a Credit Union
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019

and not a "bank", so in some cases, being in a Credit Union isn't always the be all end all for parking money when you have corrupt people running them.

SWBTATTReg

(22,118 posts)
6. Unchecked addiction? First time I have heard of this excuse being used in an attempt to...
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

justify one's bad behavior. Perhaps the 588,000 CU members should have a say in his sentence?...I know that gambling can be a danger, especially unlimited gambling with the so called promises of great riches should one win. A far fetch, I would say. What gets me is that didn't someone else notice the missing funds earlier before it got to be such a problem? I'd say that that CU needs some shaking up too among its' upper ranks.

SWBTATTReg

(22,118 posts)
8. Yes, sadly. A person who steals a pack of cigs probably would get more than 4 years! Sad. ...
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:36 PM
May 2019

Unfortunately I was blocked by Wash Post front end, and couldn't read article, but thank you in advance for article. It is sad that those who steal significant amounts of money get consistently (it seems like it to me) lighter sentences. Take care.

SWBTATTReg

(22,118 posts)
13. It's scary, isn't it? One of my best friends is black, and his biggest fear is getting pulled ...
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:15 PM
May 2019

over by the police. A true shame, although in STLMO, more and more of the police force is black, and getting better so the % of black officers and white officers and minority officers equals the population mix in St. Louis...the police should represent the public in not just upholding the law, but should represent the public too.

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
23. more from article
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:38 AM
May 2019

Wong pleaded guilty to embezzlement in November. In their memo to the judge, his attorneys say Wong started buying lottery tickets here and there to help cope with post-9/11 stress, and by the time he became MCU's CEO, he was buying $100 worth of Win4 tickets every day. The financial crisis and Superstorm Sandy worsened his stress, and between 2013 and 2017 he stole $4.5 million from MCU to buy lottery tickets. A crooked member of MCU's supervisory committee helped keep the credit union in the dark, while Wong soothed his conscience by popping hydrocodone pills and sipping from a bottle of codeine-laced syrup at his desk.

Wong's attorneys hope Koeltl will be swayed by the dozens of letters submitted by family members and friends depicting a loving father, husband and friend whose life went awry.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
15. Dianna Durban was Republican Secretary of State in New Mexico (2011-2015)
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:43 PM
May 2019

until she was charged with "fraud, embezzlement, money laundering, campaign law violations, tampering with public records, conspiracy, and violating the Governmental Conduct Act." She blamed her lapses for a gambling addiction.

I know I should perhaps be more sympathetic, but if you recognize your gambling is out of control, seek help, don't steal money.

Unfortunately, Durban only had to serve 30 days in jail and got to keep her pension. People are still angry about that here.

rurallib

(62,413 posts)
9. Until some of these CEOs, company presidents and corrupt politicians start spending
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:38 PM
May 2019

real time in real jails there will be no message sent out to stop it.
If they steal $10 million there must be hard time in jail to send a message to others. I'd start at 25 years, no parole.

AllaN01Bear

(18,201 posts)
10. seems i repeat it seems that "most " buissness operators are scoundrells.
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:42 PM
May 2019

not all. i dont have a brush that big to paint with.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
14. All such crimes should be; you get out when you've paid up
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:27 PM
May 2019

if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Steal more than you can ever repay and rot for the rest of your life.

Jedi Guy

(3,188 posts)
16. Speaking as someone who dealt with being addicted to a substance...
Tue May 28, 2019, 05:47 PM
May 2019

Addiction is not a get-out-of-jail-free card, literal or figurative. The harm you caused when you were in active addiction still happened, and its repercussions still affect people, some even up to the present day. Just because you're "clean" doesn't mean that the people you stole from or otherwise harmed are reimbursed or given redress. They're still broke... or heartbroken.

Part of proving that you're willing to change and not be that person anymore is to right as many of your wrongs as you can. Using addiction as an excuse tells me that he hasn't changed a bit, and simply doesn't want to deal with what he did. If he changed his plea to guilty, accepted whatever sentence the judge/jury felt was fair, and then went willingly to prison, I'd be willing to believe he's interested in being a reformed addict.

As it stands, I think he's just a greedy fuck who stole from people who trusted him, and is using addiction as a shield in an attempt to avoid punishment. Unless and until he accepts some punishment to prove that he's willing to do the hard work of reinventing himself, I hope he goes to jail for as long as the law allows.

TL;DR: People should not use the pain and hard work of real addicts to attempt to escape punishment.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
25. Correct me if I'm wrong
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:56 PM
May 2019

But isn't making reperations and amends to anyone you've hurt part of the 12 step process?

why should anyone expect to be considered 'cured', or 'clean' or whatever until they've paid back everythign stolen, fixed everything broken and fully made amends to the satisfaction of those they've hurt. Any lazy-ass can say 'I'm sorry, forgive me, I'm OK now', what has a person DONE to PROVE it? Having been abused and ripped of by addicts several times, I don't give a damn what someone says, be they CEO or homeless- what did you do to make right what you screwed up? Words mean nothing, only actions.

Jedi Guy

(3,188 posts)
28. It is indeed.
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019

Step 8 is making a list of those whom one has harmed. Step 9 is to make amends to those people, unless doing so would hurt someone.

The thing about addiction is that when you look back on what you did when you were in active addiction, the guilt and shame are crushing. Crushing. The last person to forgive me for the things I did was myself. I struggled with a lot of guilt and a lot of self-loathing for a long time when I got clean.

Anyone can say "I'm sorry." It costs precisely nothing to do so. Being willing to accept the consequences of what you did is where the rubber meets the road. If the person(s) you wronged opt to forgive you without punishment, that is a decision only they can make. But if they do demand punishment, the only true measure of remorse is to submit gracefully and accept that punishment. Anything else is shirking your responsibility.

Massacure

(7,521 posts)
21. The federal government has pretty complicated sentencing guidelines
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:16 PM
May 2019

An offense is categorized on a scale of 1-43 and at each rung there are 6 ranges of punishment depending on how many criminal history points a person has.

For example, embezzlement starts at an offense level of 6; the fact that Kam Wong embezzled more than $9.5 million adds 20 to it, the fact that he "substantially jeopardized the safety and soundness of a financial institution" adds 4 points, the fact that there were more than 10 victims add. At a minimum he is looking at an offense level of 30, which is 97-121 months in prison.

It could be argued that there were more than 10 victims or that he caused "substantial financial hardship" to more than 25 victims adding another 2-6 points onto the offense level. I'm assuming the prosecutor didn't argue these, because at an offense level of 32, the prison sentence is 121-151 months and the prosecutor only asked for 10 years.

https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2018-guidelines-manual

Come to think of it, I think I agree with you now more than when I started righting this post.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
19. Looks like none of the stolen money can be recovered. Prison for life or
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:17 PM
May 2019

until the money is repaid by benefactors.

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
26. This is where I bank
Wed May 29, 2019, 04:08 PM
May 2019

I have no sympathy for him.

Yes, addiction is hard but treatment is available. He had the money to avail himself of treatment. He is not like some poor schmo on the street who is unable to get treatment for his addiction.

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