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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:34 AM May 2019

Netanyahu's decade-long rule in doubt as coalition talks falter

Source: The Guardian

Benjamin Netanyahu has until midnight to form a new ruling coalition or face the possible end of his decade of leadership of Israel.

As the hours ticked by, there was no sign of a breakthrough in talks with the far-right former defence minister Avigdor Lieberman. Missing the deadline could end the prime minister’s bid to lead the next government, a scenario he intends to avoid by preemptively triggering another election.

The ruling Likud party gathered in the newly elected parliament, the Knesset, on Wednesday afternoon to push legislation to dissolve it. That would kick off a potentially lengthy summer election campaign, even though the country voted in national polls last month.

Under Israeli election law, Netanyahu has until midnight (2100 GMT) on Wednesday to tell the president, Reuven Rivlin, whether he has put together an administration after his rightwing bloc came out ahead in elections in April.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/29/benjamin-netanyahu-facing-end-decade-power-israel-coalition-talks-falter

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Netanyahu's decade-long rule in doubt as coalition talks falter (Original Post) brooklynite May 2019 OP
What?!?!?! LiberalFighter May 2019 #1
Every Israeli election requires someone forming a coalition of at least 61 MK karynnj May 2019 #3
gantz contacted rivlin to ask for the right to try and form a coalition Mosby May 2019 #4
Thanks. Can Rivlin do that before midnight? karynnj May 2019 #5
the opposition said they will filibuster the dissolution vote Mosby May 2019 #6
Thanks nt karynnj May 2019 #7
If Israel wants to move forward they need to lose that guy. TeamPooka May 2019 #2

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
1. What?!?!?!
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:48 AM
May 2019

Weird about needing only 5 members from another party to form the coalition and avoid dissolving the parliament.

Hopefully the younger voters will have educated themselves more about Neti.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
3. Every Israeli election requires someone forming a coalition of at least 61 MK
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:25 AM
May 2019

(members of Knesset) or at least to get 61 votes (including some MK not in the government) to vote to seat the new government.

This time, Netanyahu's main goal seems to have been a coalition that would pass a bill giving the sitting PM immunity to prosecution and to diminish the power of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has acted as a break to the right wing shift of the government.

This time is fascinating as Avigdor Lieberman, less liked by liberal Jews than Joe Lieberman, may be the person who breaks Netanyahu's grasp on the premiership. He is a secular, right wing politician, who has a lot of support with the former Soviet Jews and the settlers.

His complaint is that with an unusually high number of 16 ultra orthodox MK who would be in Netanyahu's coalition, rather than a right wing coalition, it would be a Halaka (Jewish law) coalition. (Substitute Sharia (Islamic law) to understand the complaint for a secular person.) In particular, Lieberman has made it about the quota of ultra orthodox men who could be drafted. Neither he - or the ultra orthodox, who say they have already compromised "enough".

If Netanyahu pulls Lieberman back in - or even gets him to vote for his coalition, this will be a terrible result for Israel from the perspective of liberal American non orthodox Jews. The American Jewish community was more angered by the treatment of non orthodox Judaism and things like Netanyahu backing down on a compromise to allow women to pray at one part of the Western Wall.

The strength of the ultra orthodox greatly increased with this election. It is not even limited to the 16 MK from the 2 ultra orthodox parties. Here is a wikipedia article of the far right union MK, who was rumored in some articles to be given the Justice portofolio (he originally demanded either that or education). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezalel_Smotrich

As noted by many Israeli articles, many other Likud politicians could with blue and white (Gantz's party) form a centrist government. It may be that Netanyahu's top goal of getting immunity and neutering the Supreme Court means he can only get a very right wing government.

One other comment - Israel is NOT the Israel of the 1960s and 1970s. When I went to J Street with a group (including our rabbi), we learned from the several Meretz, Labor and Hatuna MKs that there was NO possible chance of a center/left government. This was before Gantz formed his policy. However, while everyone in that party objected to Netanyahu -- it would be a mistake to assume that that party leans left.

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
4. gantz contacted rivlin to ask for the right to try and form a coalition
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:53 AM
May 2019

He probably should be given a shot at it, before they have a snap election.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
5. Thanks. Can Rivlin do that before midnight?
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:36 PM
May 2019

If he can't can he state he intends to do so before the Knesset votes?

I think you know more about Israeli politics than I do. Are there things wrong in what I tried to articulate here? I mostly read American sources and Haaretz and find their government very confusing.

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
6. the opposition said they will filibuster the dissolution vote
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:10 PM
May 2019

If that works or the vote fails, rivlin will have three days to decide between new elections or letting Gantz try to form a coalition.

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