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BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:08 AM May 2019

Tech giant brings software to a gun fight

Source: Washington Post



SAN FRANCISCO — On its website, Salesforce.com touts retailer Camping World as a leading customer of its business software, highlighting its use of products to help sales staff move product. A Camping World executive is even quoted calling Salesforce’s software “magic.” But behind the scenes in recent weeks, the Silicon Valley tech giant has delivered a different message to gun-selling retailers such as Camping World: Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software.

The pressure Salesforce is exerting on those retailers — barring them from using its technology to market products, manage customer service operations and fulfill orders — puts them in a difficult position. Camping World, for example, spends more than $1 million a year on Salesforce’s e-commerce software, according to one analyst estimate. Switching to another provider now could cost the company double that to migrate data, reconfigure systems and retrain employees.

The change in Salesforce’s acceptable-use policy shows how a technology giant that is mostly unknown to the public is trying to influence what retailers in America sell and alter the dynamics of a charged social issue. While Salesforce is hardly a household name, it is a dominant provider of software and services that help businesses manage their customers. With roughly 40,000 employees and a market value of nearly $120 billion, it has become a behemoth in San Francisco. Its branded skyscraper also towers over the city as the tallest building and a major landmark.

But its decision to force its position on guns on retailers did not sit well with some industry advocates. These types of rules are “corporate-policy virtue signaling” and discriminate against gun owners, whose rights are protected by the Second Amendment, said Mark Oliva, public affairs director of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a firearms trade group. “It is a very chilling effect when a company as large as Salesforce puts out a policy like this,” Oliva said. “A policy like this is not surprising from a company based in that part of the country.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/30/tech-giant-brings-software-gun-fight/?utm_term=.ec9522ab1b55



Private business.
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Tech giant brings software to a gun fight (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2019 OP
While I am all for private business melm00se May 2019 #1
Well my take in this instance BumRushDaShow May 2019 #2
Not the same thing at all. Phoenix61 May 2019 #3
That doesn't already happen? I wouldn't care - I wouldn't do business with them if I knew upfront .. marble falls May 2019 #4
Thank You..... LovingA2andMI May 2019 #5
"discrimination against gun owners" awww, poor victim Merlot May 2019 #6
Businesses that sell CERTAIN TYPES of guns DBoon May 2019 #8
It's time to hit 'em where it hurts. Initech May 2019 #7

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
1. While I am all for private business
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:29 AM
May 2019

lets change this up a little bit:

Contribute to Planned Parenthood?
Contribute to The Democratic Party/Democratic candidates?

You have to stop using my software.

What is your reaction?

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
2. Well my take in this instance
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:00 AM
May 2019

is that many of those who "complain" about "government interference" and point to a "private business owner's 'right' to discriminate" (generally the Libertarian viewpoint, where private business has all the rights of the Constitution or as RMoney so succinctly stated - "Corporations are people" ), suddenly whine when it goes against something that they want to do.

I.e., the Libertarian/Conservative/Right do this against Liberals/Progressives/Left far more often than the other way around, enough so that their continual attacks and business-oriented threats against causes embraced by the Left (LGBTQ rights, climate change, healthcare reform, women's rights and right to control her own body, immigration reform, voting rights for the disenfranchised, etc) continually make the news and have been normalized. You might recall some of the corporate threats regarding the ACA and RW football team owners threatening players for "kneeling".

But in this case, it's a man bites dog scenario where it shows an interesting contrast.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
3. Not the same thing at all.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:13 AM
May 2019

They are using the software to broker the exchange of merchandise for payment. An accurate analogy would be PayPal refusing to transfer funds which as a private company they have every right to do. Personally, I think it’s great.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
4. That doesn't already happen? I wouldn't care - I wouldn't do business with them if I knew upfront ..
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:36 AM
May 2019

what they support. I don't do business with Chick-fil-A, McDonald's, Hobby Lobby, Papa John's for what they stand for, how they treat their employees, and the candidates they support.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
6. "discrimination against gun owners" awww, poor victim
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:58 AM
May 2019

No, it's businesses that sell guns.

If bakers don't have to make cakes for gay weddings, software companies don't have to work with vendors who sell guns. Seems simple enough.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
7. It's time to hit 'em where it hurts.
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:08 AM
May 2019

The NRA is losing Ackerman-McQueen and now Camping World is losing Salesforce. The government can't trample on your right to own an assault rifle, but private business can!

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