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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:34 PM Jul 2019

Trump says he is 'thinking of' executive order to revive census citizenship question

Source: Washington Post

President Trump said Friday that he is “thinking of” issuing an executive order to add a controversial citizenship question to the 2020 Census, telling reporters at the White House that he is exploring four or five different options to move forward.

Trump raised the possibility that some kind of addendum could be printed separately after further litigation of the issue, a move would almost certainly carry additional costs and may not be feasible, according to census experts.

“We’ll see what happens,” Trump said. “We could start the printing now and maybe do an addendum after we get a positive decision. So we’re working on a lot of things including an executive order.”

Census experts say that among other concerns, such an addendum would likely violate the bureau’s strict rules on testing a question, which include considering how the placement of a question on the form affects respondents’ likelihood of filling it out.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-is-thinking-of-executive-order-to-revive-census-citizenship-question/ar-AADUfJy?li=BBnb7Kz



Dumbfuck thinks he's a dictator.
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Trump says he is 'thinking of' executive order to revive census citizenship question (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP
Idiot got 'executive order' out the ass and on the brain...there is one known cure for this ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #1
Translation "We will see what happens". gordianot Jul 2019 #2
I know I post this way too often, but Jesus christ I can't wait until he's gone. Afromania Jul 2019 #3
That's how I feel. CottonBear Jul 2019 #15
Ugh... me, too toofold4this Jul 2019 #17
I keep hoping he gets "KFC'd" to shorten the waiting time............ Bengus81 Jul 2019 #23
Do an addendum on your duodenum to hold the fries dalton99a Jul 2019 #4
Don't miss these accounts: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #5
Trump: the #1 reason for adding citizenship question is for the drawing of electoral districts mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #6
+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #7
Assuming facts not in evidence cp Jul 2019 #8
Trump's fealty lies where, exactly? Is he a citizen? Or a foreign agent? bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #9
Trump's statement that they want the citizenship question for use in redistricting is awkward. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #10
"Anybody, can you think of a new way to f**k the Constitution?" sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #11
the "unitary" president started with bush-cheney who pushed the limits and same beachbum bob Jul 2019 #12
Some people I've talked to say not having the Census Citizenship question is cheating dustyscamp Jul 2019 #13
I don't believe they've had it since 1950 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #14
1950 was last time all the people were asked about citizenship on census, in 1970 only long form Baclava Jul 2019 #16
The actual purpose of a census is for equitable allocation of resources. meadowlander Jul 2019 #21
Repubs used to complain about using EOs to make legislation. Looks like they have gotten over that keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #18
A Census question about guns? 70sEraVet Jul 2019 #19
If there is a law you don't like as dictator you ignore it and push your agenda with brut force geretogo Jul 2019 #20
A group of attorneys thinks that the DOJ is going to piss off SCOTUS RainCaster Jul 2019 #22
So why do we need the House and Senate? zanana1 Jul 2019 #24
Or judicial system. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #27
Will someone PLEASE explain the laws to this moron ?? Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #25
After he's done thinking about the airports of the 1700's Blue Owl Jul 2019 #26
He's probably saving that decision for a better day.....like July 17th? kentuck Jul 2019 #28

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
1. Idiot got 'executive order' out the ass and on the brain...there is one known cure for this ...
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019

disease, kick him out of office in 2020, Nov.

An executive order to override what the constitution clearly states? Yeah, right. I'd love to see how far this nonsense will go and this just goes to clearly show more and more what a bigot and racist he is.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
2. Translation "We will see what happens".
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jul 2019

Who can I get to abandon judgement, blackmail, threaten, con or possibly commit treason?

Afromania

(2,771 posts)
3. I know I post this way too often, but Jesus christ I can't wait until he's gone.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jul 2019

We'll still have all of his sick ilk to deal with but at least we won't have to hear his garbage anymore. Cmon, we know what this is code for. He's got those idiots that work for him trying to find any piece of shit reason to use the EO. Then when he can't find anything that's reasonably half assed he'll just brush it off like it never happened.

I hate this guy so damn much I give myself headaches everyday.

toofold4this

(3 posts)
17. Ugh... me, too
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jul 2019

When GWB was pres., all I had to do was hold my hand to block his face.
I didn't like him but I didn't hate him (even though he was responsible
for Katrina leaving New Orleans in shambles and started the bs Iraq war).
When the fascist murderer appears, I pretend there are bullseyes all over
it. I don't get a headache and my partner just avoids most media stuff
because a virus was activated in her and it's what stress does.

Last - my flags are hanging upside down in my window. I wanted to fray
both but was overruled because we have clients coming here...

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
23. I keep hoping he gets "KFC'd" to shorten the waiting time............
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 08:47 PM
Jul 2019

Each day he proves yet again he's not even human.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
5. Don't miss these accounts:
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jul 2019
Don't miss these accounts:

https://twitter.com/lawrencehurley

Such as:

UPDATE: New U.S. census turmoil as Trump again pursues citizenship question



This one too:

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman

Such as:

Update: DOJ has filed a letter in census litigation in SDNY underscoring what they told the judge in MD. "The Departments of Justice and Commerce have now been asked to reevaluate all available options following the Supreme Court’s decision..." https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/census-trump-tweet-doj



And of course, good old Popehat and his many retweets:

https://twitter.com/Popehat

Such as:

is it good or bad when an attorney has to answer a yes or no question starting with a preamble like this?


mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
6. Trump: the #1 reason for adding citizenship question is for the drawing of electoral districts
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jul 2019
Trump on Friday said the "number one" reason for adding a citizenship question was for the drawing of electoral districts, which is what those challenging the move have said all along


bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
9. Trump's fealty lies where, exactly? Is he a citizen? Or a foreign agent?
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jul 2019

This is nothing but theater to cover up his own loyalties

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
10. Trump's statement that they want the citizenship question for use in redistricting is awkward.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019
RammedTheRampartsHat Retweeted

Trump's statement that they want the citizenship question for use in redistricting is awkward given that the Solicitor General told the Supreme Court the exact opposite a few weeks ago -- the SG specifically said that was not their motive.



And on top of this, of course, with know from the Hofeller memo that the goal of using citizenship in redistricting is to help "Republicans and non-Hispanic Whites." So Trump is now adopting that motivation, full stop.


 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. the "unitary" president started with bush-cheney who pushed the limits and same
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019

people around them are also around trump. It will take strong congressional action that so far we have not seen yet to curb this obvious attempt at hijacking democracy

dustyscamp

(2,228 posts)
13. Some people I've talked to say not having the Census Citizenship question is cheating
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jul 2019

and another way for Dems to cheat

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
16. 1950 was last time all the people were asked about citizenship on census, in 1970 only long form
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jul 2019

The last time a citizenship question was among the census questions for all U.S. households was in 1950. That form asked where each person was born and in a follow-up question asked, "If foreign born — Is he naturalized?"

In 1970, the Census Bureau began sending around two questionnaires: a short-form questionnaire to gather basic population information and a long form that asked detailed questions about everything from household income to plumbing. The short form went to most households in America. The long form was sent to a much smaller sample of households, 1 in 6. Most people didn't get it.

Starting in 1970, questions about citizenship were included in the long-form questionnaire but not the short form.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597436512/fact-check-has-citizenship-been-a-standard-census-question

meadowlander

(4,402 posts)
21. The actual purpose of a census is for equitable allocation of resources.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 07:06 PM
Jul 2019

So undercounting the number of actual people in your district by pretending undocumented people don't exist means that you get fewer schools, hospitals, parks, libraries, swimming pools, land rezoned for housing and business, etc. not to mention less funding for a whole range of services and infrastructure projects.

The morons who think they're getting some kind of "advantage" by adding a question that means the number of people in their district will be undercounted are primarily screwing themselves out of funding for infrastructure, affordable housing and job growth.

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
18. Repubs used to complain about using EOs to make legislation. Looks like they have gotten over that
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jul 2019

Repubs used to complain about using EOs to make legislation.

Looks like they have gotten over that.

70sEraVet

(3,512 posts)
19. A Census question about guns?
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 04:00 PM
Jul 2019

If Trump issues an Executive Order to have a question added to the US Census, despite a ruling by the courts, couldn't the NEXT president issue an Executive Order to include a question asking how many guns are in the home and how they were purchased? I mean, precedents are dangerous things.

zanana1

(6,127 posts)
24. So why do we need the House and Senate?
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:06 AM
Jul 2019

For that matter, why do we need elections? This has been said so many times it seems to have lost it's shock value, but this guy is a DICTATOR.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
28. He's probably saving that decision for a better day.....like July 17th?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:09 AM
Jul 2019

It will make a great distraction when Mueller testifies.

"President Defies Supreme Court"

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