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Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:14 PM Jul 2019

Barr Won't Recuse Himself From New Case Against Jeffrey Epstein

Source: Bloomberg

Attorney General William Barr won’t recuse himself from involvement in the new charges filed against alleged sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein by federal prosecutors in New York, according to a Justice Department official.

Barr made the decision on Tuesday after consulting with career ethics officials at the department, said the official, who asked not to be identified discussing a sensitive matter.

Barr weighed whether he would have to remove himself from involvement in the case in part because Epstein had previously hired lawyers from the law firm Kirkland & Ellis LLP. Barr served as counsel to the law firm before becoming attorney general.

But Barr has recused himself from any retrospective review of the Justice Department’s decision more than a decade ago letting Epstein avoid prosecution on federal sex-trafficking offenses in Florida and the decades of prison time that he could have faced if convicted.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-09/barr-won-t-recuse-himself-from-new-case-against-jeffrey-epstein

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Barr Won't Recuse Himself From New Case Against Jeffrey Epstein (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 OP
And what, may I ask, is going to be this idiot's excuse to interfere in a criminal case, eh? I'd... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #1
Barr put himself Linda Ed Jul 2019 #15
You nailed it! BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #37
+1 iluvtennis Jul 2019 #39
Corruption flows into the Trump swamp. Democrats_win Jul 2019 #2
I'm wondering if he has the stones to try and bury a pedophelia ring case, and what the reaction... kysrsoze Jul 2019 #3
It's not about having anything. Phoenix61 Jul 2019 #33
Can someone explain to me why he would do this? GusBob Jul 2019 #4
The only thing I can think of is that he could somehow keep it from spilling over onto Trump. Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #8
Exactly. He's there to protect Trump. Auggie Jul 2019 #11
Or his father! atreides1 Jul 2019 #29
So he can meddle behind the scenes Politicub Jul 2019 #19
WTH? Big Daddy get to him? Frustratedlady Jul 2019 #5
I guess the fact that Barr's father got Epstein his first job ever isn't disqualifying? George II Jul 2019 #6
+1 ChiTownDenny Jul 2019 #23
Trumps on tape. Corgigal Jul 2019 #7
Well he is there to protect Trump. Make no mistake about that. He's not working for us. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #9
Barr is going to end up duforsure Jul 2019 #10
He's Trump's fixer. LibDemAlways Jul 2019 #12
rich people protecting rich people. AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #13
Guess his boss had a talk with him. nt KPN Jul 2019 #14
This is a red flag. Trump is involved. Sneederbunk Jul 2019 #16
Yep. No doubt in my mind. Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #28
1000% stuffmatters Jul 2019 #34
Barr is owned lock stock and barrel!! bluestarone Jul 2019 #17
Next to Trump Barr is the biggest threat to our democracy. watoos Jul 2019 #18
And now folks, the fix in. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #20
Conway said tRUMP told her SayItLoud Jul 2019 #21
Looks like he got his marching orders Scalded Nun Jul 2019 #22
He probably wants to see the pictures they seized Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #24
That's it bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #26
Seriously! Is this even up to him? There is clearly an issue here with him being involved in this smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #41
It is clear that trump ordered Barr to not recuse himself and he obeyed his masters orderrs Gothmog Jul 2019 #27
You are so right. Trump is not going to have another Jeff Sessions when he needs someone to Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #31
Yes. I love,love that David Koch's name was in Epstein's black book. stuffmatters Jul 2019 #36
Epstein JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #30
Where there is a Bar, there is a Trumpian way. nt NCjack Jul 2019 #32
His job is to give the signal to da boss if/when a pardon is to be given. ancianita Jul 2019 #35
Epstein is gonna fry no matter what Trump does. Jedi Guy Jul 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Jul 2019 #44
He said he would recuse himself, before he said he wouldn't. Mc Mike Jul 2019 #38
One phone call from Trumpsky BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #40
Legal Experts Have 'Zero Confidence' in William Barr After Report He Won't Recuse Himself From Jeffr Eugene Jul 2019 #43
Barr's father HIRED EPSTEIN. Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #45

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
1. And what, may I ask, is going to be this idiot's excuse to interfere in a criminal case, eh? I'd...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jul 2019

to see him blatantly interfere in a criminal case for no valid reason at all, and then later, after we're in Power in the Spring of 2021, go after Barr for protecting a sexual predator (and the rest of the GOP that didn't say a word against him and/or supported Barr in his actions).

The GOP is now out in the open a sexual predators allowed party.

I want to throw up.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
15. Barr put himself
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jul 2019

back in the ring so that he could protect drumpf and all the others from being thrown in the fire with Epstein..That is exactly why he said he changed his mind and would not recuse himself..JMHO

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
2. Corruption flows into the Trump swamp.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jul 2019

Isn't that convenient, he sat on his a$$ when the sex trafficker was given a slap on the wrist and now Barr is saving himself to act. Presumably to help the pedophile in the near future?

kysrsoze

(6,019 posts)
3. I'm wondering if he has the stones to try and bury a pedophelia ring case, and what the reaction...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jul 2019

... will be if he does. I would like to think there still is a red line with Republican voters when it comes to child molestation, but I really doubt there is. There is no end to the level of depravity they're willing to ignore when it serves them politically.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
33. It's not about having anything.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

It’s about not having just about everything that makes one a human being.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
4. Can someone explain to me why he would do this?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jul 2019

I am having a hard time following the bouncing ball here

Is he gonna try and get this creep cleared from justice?

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
8. The only thing I can think of is that he could somehow keep it from spilling over onto Trump.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jul 2019

I'm fairly certain that if they dig into Epstein very far, they will discover a link to Trump and underage girls.

atreides1

(16,078 posts)
29. Or his father!
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jul 2019

It was Barr's father who hired Epstein to teach at a private school...even though Epstein didn't possess a teaching degree...a year later Barr senior resigned from the school.

https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107


While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.


https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/20/archives/barr-quits-dalton-school-post-charging-trustees-interference.html







Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. WTH? Big Daddy get to him?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jul 2019

So, recused or not, can he control any of the attorneys involved in either case? I assume he has some power due to being the federal A.G. He's just recused from reviewing the Florida case? Did I read that right?

There must be some serious discussions going on, both today and last night. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...which is certainly nothing new with this administration.

WOW! Just WOW!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
7. Trumps on tape.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jul 2019

Ha, what is Barr going to do about that? Trump should never of run his fat mouth about crooked FBI and how he trust Putin over his own intelligence.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. Barr is going to end up
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jul 2019

Going to prison. He's crooked as hell, and conspiring to obstruct, and lying. His time is coming.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
12. He's Trump's fixer.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jul 2019

He'll do whatever's necessary to keep Trump's name out of this, and Epstein will be needing the gold standard of protection if he's going to avoid being suicided behind bars at Barr/Trump's behest.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
17. Barr is owned lock stock and barrel!!
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jul 2019

His only purpose is to PROTECT RUMP! I'm hoping they cannot cover this up!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
18. Next to Trump Barr is the biggest threat to our democracy.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jul 2019

We need a James O'Keefe to take out Barr, I'm serious, these fuckers don't play fair.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
21. Conway said tRUMP told her
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jul 2019

"I haven't had contact or seen Epstein in 15 years". Thanks DOTARD if you do the math, that puts you in contact with him RIGHT AT THE TIME OF THE ENTIRE SORDID AFFAIRS!

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
22. Looks like he got his marching orders
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jul 2019

This could be much worse for Trump (as if anything could be anymore). This may also be where Russia has extremely compromising information, and possibly photos, and would be a much more powerful blackmail cache. Let's face it, his supporters probably won't even care about a pee tape, but they might care if there are photos or proof of him fucking a bunch of 12-13 year-olds.

Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. Seriously! Is this even up to him? There is clearly an issue here with him being involved in this
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019

case. Why is he the decider? Are there no higher authorities who decided what is legally allowable and what isn't? How the fuck do they keep getting away with this shit?

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
27. It is clear that trump ordered Barr to not recuse himself and he obeyed his masters orderrs
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:07 PM
Jul 2019

Barr is a horrible human being and a bad lawyer

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
31. You are so right. Trump is not going to have another Jeff Sessions when he needs someone to
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jul 2019

cover his ass.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
36. Yes. I love,love that David Koch's name was in Epstein's black book.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jul 2019

Barr is the Republican Party whole "Infrastructure's" Uberfixer, their Thwarter General. there to cover all their asses.

Jedi Guy

(3,186 posts)
42. Epstein is gonna fry no matter what Trump does.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jul 2019

Trump can pardon federal charges, but he can't do a thing about state charges, and SDNY is all up in Epstein's business. He's gonna die in jail no matter what he does. The length of the sentence will ultimately just be a high score for the prosecution.

The real question is who he'll drag down with him. Given the circles he ran in, I expect there are more than a few household names involved in this disgusting affair. I hope they have Epstein in protective custody, because given what he knows, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he died of a "heart attack" before the trial.

Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #42)

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
38. He said he would recuse himself, before he said he wouldn't.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jul 2019

He's a flip flopping flip flopper. And a fat headed fascist, to boot.

Eugene

(61,881 posts)
43. Legal Experts Have 'Zero Confidence' in William Barr After Report He Won't Recuse Himself From Jeffr
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jul 2019

Source: Newsweek

LEGAL EXPERTS HAVE 'ZERO CONFIDENCE' IN WILLIAM BARR AFTER REPORT HE WON'T RECUSE HIMSELF FROM JEFFREY EPSTEIN CASE

BY JESSICA KWONG ON 7/9/19 AT 3:58 PM EDT

Legal experts have raised concerns over a report that Attorney General William Barr will not recuse himself from a new case against billionaire and alleged sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

Barr decided Tuesday against recusing himself, after assessing the situation with career ethics officials at the Department of Justice, an anonymous department official told media outlets including Bloomberg and CNN. Barr said yesterday that he had removed himself from the case as Epstein in the past retained attorneys from the law firm Kirkland & Ellis LLP, where Barr previously worked as counsel.

However, Barr will remain recused from any retrospective review of the Justice Department's decision more than a decade ago that allowed Epstein, who faced allegations of federal sex trafficking offenses in Florida, to avoid federal charges.

Epstein's case has drawn even great scrutiny because Trump's Labor Secretary Alex Acosta was the top federal prosecutor in Miami and approved the controversial deal letting Epstein plead guilty to two state charges of soliciting a prostitute. Epstein served 13 months in a prison in Florida but was released to conduct business most days.

Among former federal prosecutors alarmed at the reports that Barr would not recuse himself is Mimi Rocah, who served as an assistant attorney in the Southern District of New York.

-snip-


Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-legal-experts-alarmed-1448340

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
45. Barr's father HIRED EPSTEIN.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jul 2019
The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump

Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019

During Attorney General, William Barr’s confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasse’s (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.

This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.

Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, “he was something of a Robin Williams–in–Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs.” Epstein’s mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns’ chairman, Alan “Ace” Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.

Continues....

https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107

That alone is grounds for recusal.

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