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Rollo

(2,559 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:10 AM Jul 2019

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'

Source: BBC News web site

Donald Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal to spite Barack Obama, according to a leaked memo written by the UK's former ambassador to the US.

Sir Kim Darroch described the move as an act of "diplomatic vandalism", according to the Mail on Sunday.

...

The paper reports that Sir Kim wrote a memo to Mr Johnson, saying: "The outcome illustrated the paradox of this White House: you got exceptional access, seeing everyone short of the president; but on the substance, the administration is set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons - it was Obama's deal.

"Moreover, they can't articulate any 'day-after' strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region."



Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484



Is anyone surprised Trump could act so petty?
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MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
11. Yes indeed!
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 07:48 AM
Jul 2019

I can still see the steam rolling out from under that pile of straw sitting on his head as the whole place broke out in laughter at IQ45 after PRESIDENT OBAMA'S brilliant shots at the idiot!

Judi Lynn

(160,526 posts)
4. So his entire national policy is formed around destroying every thing done by an AA President.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 03:55 AM
Jul 2019

Very ignorant right-wing childish of him.

He's spending all the taxpayers' resources wrecking the record of the previous President.

Unbelievably stupid and worthless, degraded, wildly inferior man, the very worse possible choice in the world. Who would NOT believe the country's worst possible "enemy" wouldn't have engineered this?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. No surprise there!
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:25 AM
Jul 2019

Trump has been, still is jealous of President Obama. His continued popularity eats him alive. Almost every action he has taken is spite! He hates Joe Biden, too.

Biden is wise, he laughs at Trump!

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
7. Putin did!
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:29 AM
Jul 2019

And you can bet he makes fun of the ignorant fool in private.

Remember Helsinki? Putin walked out smiling and happy. Trump looked like a lumbering, chastised man. You know he wants no one to know what was said in that meeting.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
16. I can't even speak to people I know who still support him.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jul 2019

There are a few that I'm just SMH in disbelief.

 

Dem Dean

(81 posts)
6. EVERYTHING HE DOES IS TO UNDO OBAMA!
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:25 AM
Jul 2019

A man he knows he can never get within a light year of equalling.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
8. "Diplomatic vandalism"
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 05:09 AM
Jul 2019

is exactly right. So is the absence of any plans for "reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region."

Petty, thoughtless vandalism with global consequences. That's not just the the Trump regime's approach to the Iran deal: that's their M.O. on every front, too.

Sounds like the departure of Darroch (whose long history of distinguished foreign service earned him that "Sir" ) will be a real loss to the diplomatic corps of the UK.

Wonder who leaked that memo?
According to Wikipedia, it also happened in 2016, too – and, again, it was a comment about #45.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Darroch

BritVic

(262 posts)
9. He's never got over that correspondents' dinner
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 05:17 AM
Jul 2019

Can't take take a joke at his own expense. What a humourless, embittered, grudge-bearing little man he is.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
12. Unfortunately undoing Obama policies plays very well with his base
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:09 AM
Jul 2019

I've had trumpettes tell me if undoing the Obama presidency is his legacy it will make him the greatest president we ever had.

These clowns are in some serious need to be deprogrammed.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
13. This is slightly off topic but if we need to change the hearts and minds of those voters
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

who elected Trump because they hate Obama and want his legacy wiped out, in order to win in 2020 why are the Ds supporting a candidate (Biden) with unbreakable ties to Obama and his legacy? How is supporting a candidate who is linked to Obama going to get us to victory if the hearts and minds of those that hate Obama will never vote for Biden because of his connection to Obama? Unless, their votes are not important (like they weren't in 2016) . . . .

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
17. In all probability, the folks who hate Obama would never vote Democratic anyway.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:39 PM
Jul 2019

There are some people who voted for Trump who can, I think, be won back to our side. The people who voted for Trump specifically because they wanted him to erase Obama's legacy are another matter entirely. Repudiating Obama would also not be a smart move, given his continued popularity. Just my opinion.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
14. From bbc...a hornets nest over there..
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:52 AM
Jul 2019


with the words between stumpy and the uk ambassador to the usofa..

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
15. that's one way to analyze it. then there's the punditocracy that says "no, he did it because
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jul 2019

he promised his base he would do it". none of them know squat about what's been going on on rw talk radio since obama admin pushed the deal.

why did he promise his base he would do it? because the russians told him to study talk radio in 2014 and just follow the main memes and problem solving genius coming out of limbaugh's ass because the main turds are regurgitated by every rw blowhard in the country and their audience are trump's base

so the russians and trump people can coordinate without direct communication. they read the limbaugh transcripts if they don't listen to the show and everyone's on the same page. the russians have been supplementing the talk radio gods since at least 2008, whether they know it or not, and can amp up what they like with social media trolling.

anyone whose familiar with rw radio knows trump's base has been hearing limbaugh tell millions every day that the iranians were cheating, the obama deal was very bad, gave it all away, hillary and bill were giving them uranium, and so on. years of the same bullshit.

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