Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jpak

(41,757 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:17 AM Aug 2019

Navy quietly ends climate change task force, reversing Obama initiative

Source: Navy Times

When he took office as secretary of defense, retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis urged the armed forces to battle the effects of global climate change.

The order by Mattis was backed by a slew of scientific studies — including those commissioned by the Pentagon — and concerns expressed by a growing number of past and present military leaders.

“Climate change is impacting stability in areas of the world where our troops are operating today,” Mattis indicated in written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee in 2017.

“It is appropriate for the Combatant Commands to incorporate drivers of instability that impact the security environment in their areas into their planning.”

<more>

Read more: https://www.navytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/08/26/navy-quietly-ends-climate-change-task-force-reversing-obama-initiative/

23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Navy quietly ends climate change task force, reversing Obama initiative (Original Post) jpak Aug 2019 OP
This violates the oath these commanders took. They've now put pleasing party above their country. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #1
Could I hate the fucking moron anymore than I already do? BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #2
We'll need those resources for fighting climate change wars. ffr Aug 2019 #3
The hard environmental and the social science is in. Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #12
Because who needs a planet? sakabatou Aug 2019 #4
Trump is seething because the Obamas have purchased a place Cleetus Ford Aug 2019 #5
This is awful. MBS Aug 2019 #6
there will be wars KT2000 Aug 2019 #7
The Arctic is already divided up. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #14
No, as the Arctic melts KT2000 Aug 2019 #17
So, you're saying that for instance maxsolomon Aug 2019 #18
US will defend oil rigs KT2000 Aug 2019 #19
Now you're moving the goal posts. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #20
No I'm not KT2000 Aug 2019 #21
More Republicon WILLFUL ignorance. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #8
Per the article, it's not just Trump or the GOP. Apparently there haven't been enough Eugene Aug 2019 #10
Navy's going to have to deal with it one way or another IronLionZion Aug 2019 #9
Meanwhile, their bases are being covered in sea water now. Vinca Aug 2019 #11
I guess they didn't watch the news.........and we the taxpayers are going to pay............BS turbinetree Aug 2019 #13
The tentacles of the Kochtopus at work. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #15
Very odd considering the PENTAGON released a report some time around 2003 that said rwsanders Aug 2019 #16
Fine. Let Norfolk drown. Let Diego Garcia founder. Let Annapolis rot from the tideline up. hatrack Aug 2019 #22
seems the Navy is not doing its job either. damn riversedge Aug 2019 #23

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
1. This violates the oath these commanders took. They've now put pleasing party above their country.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:32 AM
Aug 2019
Navy officials told E&E News, which initially reported the termination of the program, that the task force’s mission was one that was “no longer needed.”


So now they're lying for Trump.

Shameful.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
2. Could I hate the fucking moron anymore than I already do?
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:32 AM
Aug 2019

Yes, in fact I just found out I can and I do.

I wish someone would drop a nuclear bomb on him to see if that would stop him, I can't wait for an election to possibly do it in 2020.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
3. We'll need those resources for fighting climate change wars.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:42 AM
Aug 2019

The science is in anyway. We're FUCKED!

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
12. The hard environmental and the social science is in.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:37 AM
Aug 2019

Many if not most people living in societies dependant on fragile financial and waste-generating just-in-time production, global distribution and frantic consumption processes will be FUCKED, as you put it, but more because of the nature of such societies and all the other environmental damage rather than climate change itself, in my opinion.

 

Cleetus Ford

(4 posts)
5. Trump is seething because the Obamas have purchased a place
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 01:56 AM
Aug 2019

On Martha's Vineyard, a place where he would be shunned and not welcomed if he was to buy there so he's trying to hasten the rise of the ocean to destroy the place.

Vindictive little tyrant.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
7. there will be wars
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:44 AM
Aug 2019

in the future over the changes brought by climate change. Who gets the Arctic??
The Navy has made changes because of climate change already.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
17. No, as the Arctic melts
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:03 PM
Aug 2019

nations will try to control it for themselves regardless of past agreements. There is oil and the shipping lanes that each wants to control. The Navy was preparing for that eventuality before rump shut it down. Some changes had already been made to have a greater presence on the NW coast and Alaska. Who knows what happens next.
https://www.navy.mil/docs/USN_arctic_roadmap.pdf

My hunch is that rump wants in on the oil money, through the Russians, not Americans.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
18. So, you're saying that for instance
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aug 2019

Rusher will claim Ellesmere Island from Canada? Norway will claim Franz Josef Land? Or something like that?

Again, all lands in the Arctic are part of existing nations, except Greenland which is an autonomous Danish territory.

Your "hunch" is close to a conspiracy theory.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
19. US will defend oil rigs
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019

my hunch is a guess based on the fact that the republicans are bending over backwards for Russia and Putin due to oil and the money to be made. Oil - oil - oil

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
21. No I'm not
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:34 PM
Aug 2019

Obama established the task force to protect American interests. rump will protect whatever will make him the richest man in the world. If Russian rigs go into American territory under rump - ???

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
8. More Republicon WILLFUL ignorance.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:13 AM
Aug 2019

The 2020 Democrat should run with the metric system as part of her/his platform. It will drive tRump's base apoplectic and cause him to make mistakes.

Plus ...

... metrication is long overdue.

Eugene

(61,881 posts)
10. Per the article, it's not just Trump or the GOP. Apparently there haven't been enough
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:25 AM
Aug 2019

installations damaged to overcome the Navy's institutional inertia. Too few at the top take climate change seriously.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
9. Navy's going to have to deal with it one way or another
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:18 AM
Aug 2019

as other nations use newly opened Arctic sea routes and rising sea levels impact Naval facilities

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
15. The tentacles of the Kochtopus at work.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:25 PM
Aug 2019

The blows will just keep coming until Trump is gone. Then we'll have to fight to bring back sanity. The delay in taking effective action is exactly what the Koch's money has bought.

At least Cancer couldn't be bought off with David Koch's money.

rwsanders

(2,598 posts)
16. Very odd considering the PENTAGON released a report some time around 2003 that said
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:40 PM
Aug 2019

Global warming was a bigger threat to US security than global terrorism.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
22. Fine. Let Norfolk drown. Let Diego Garcia founder. Let Annapolis rot from the tideline up.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:54 PM
Aug 2019

Let the whores and grifters and fools and clowns run the whole fucking shitshow right off the end of the pier. And then they can bob about in the sea and whine about how no one warned them, and Her Emails, and libtards and immigrants and gay marriage.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Navy quietly ends climate...