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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:35 AM Jan 2012

Mexico Updates Death Toll in Drug War to 47,515, but Critics Dispute the Data

The Mexican government updated its drug war death toll on Wednesday, reporting that 47,515 people had been killed in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderón began a military assault on criminal cartels in late 2006.

The new official tally provided by the attorney general’s office included data only through September, and it showed that drug-related killings increased 11 percent, to 12,903, compared with the same nine-month period in 2010. Still, a government statement sought to find a silver lining, asserting that it was the first year since 2006 “that the homicide rate increase has been lower compared to the previous years.”

But that will hardly calm a public scared by the recent arrival of grisly violence in once-safe cities like Guadalajara, nor will Wednesday’s limited data release silence the increasingly loud call for better, more transparent government record keeping.

The Mexican government has failed to create the tracking system it needs to understand criminal trends and improve security, experts say, even as it has become more secretive with the limited information it has.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/12/world/americas/mexico-updates-drug-war-death-toll-but-critics-dispute-data.html

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Mexico Updates Death Toll in Drug War to 47,515, but Critics Dispute the Data (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2012 OP
dear mexico and us governments: prohibition does NOT work. have a nice death nt msongs Jan 2012 #1
I don't think it has anything to do wit... hang a left Jan 2012 #2
wait, what? AlecBGreen Jan 2012 #3
Dude! hang a left Jan 2012 #5
no, I meant to reply to yours AlecBGreen Jan 2012 #7
Ok I can agree with that but now we are talking hang a left Jan 2012 #8
It works if you want organized crime to thrive and/or you want to disenfranchise Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #4
It is disgusting hang a left Jan 2012 #6
 

hang a left

(10,921 posts)
2. I don't think it has anything to do wit...
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 06:05 AM
Jan 2012

Prohibition. it is all about a new Jeffe in town. Our intelligence agencies need the black budget money, that is what is going down in Mexico. it is a changing of the guard. It's bloody, it's inhumane, and the craziness will not stop until there is a new order.

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
3. wait, what?
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jan 2012

"I don't think it has anything to do with prohibition."

So if drugs were legal, Mexico would still have the same level of drug/gang violence we have today?

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
7. no, I meant to reply to yours
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jan 2012

Poster upthread said "prohibition doesnt work" and you said "I dont think it (drug-war deaths) has anything to do with prohibition." I think it does. If prohibition ended today and drugs were legalized, I think there would be far fewer deaths from drug-related violence. Dont you?

edit - spelling

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
4. It works if you want organized crime to thrive and/or you want to disenfranchise
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jan 2012

a segment of the people from their government.

 

hang a left

(10,921 posts)
6. It is disgusting
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jan 2012

No different than our involvement in South America and Central America.

Who wants organized crime to survive??? No no but the twisted thing about it is, the drug cartels are in bed with our government. Always have been always will be. Unfortunately, our government finds brown people expendable, and at alarming rates. There will be NO justice, only carnage.

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