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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:03 PM Jan 2020

Iranian Missile System Shot Down Ukraine Flight, Probably by Mistake, Sources Say

Source: Newsweek

The Ukrainian flight that crashed just outside the Iranian capital of Tehran was struck by an anti-aircraft missile system, a Pentagon official, a senior U.S. intelligence official and an Iraqi intelligence official told Newsweek.

Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, a Boeing 737–800 en route from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airpot to Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport, stopped transmitting data Tuesday just minutes after takeoff and not long after Iran launched missiles at military bases housing U.S. and allied forces in neighboring Iraq. The aircraft is believed to have been struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, known to NATO as Gauntlet, the three officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, told Newsweek.

One Pentagon and one U.S senior intelligence official told Newsweek that the Pentagon's assessment is that the incident was accidental. Iran's anti-aircraft were likely active following the country's missile attack, which came in response to the U.S. killing last week of Revolutionary Guard Quds Force commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, sources said.

U.S. Central Command declined to comment on the matter when contacted by Newsweek. No reply was returned from the National Security Council or State Department.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313

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Iranian Missile System Shot Down Ukraine Flight, Probably by Mistake, Sources Say (Original Post) PunkinPi Jan 2020 OP
Uh huh......... pangaia Jan 2020 #1
If true, those 180 people (63 Canadian) are dead because of Trump. Full stop. RockRaven Jan 2020 #2
Indeed, Trump has blood on his hands. nt PunkinPi Jan 2020 #4
yep... dhill926 Jan 2020 #5
Absolutely! duforsure Jan 2020 #11
Yes, that's what a lot of people suspected. Horrific. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #3
Accidental? llmart Jan 2020 #6
I doubt that the missile launching software even checks to see if something is in the flight LiberalArkie Jan 2020 #27
and Iran said the plane was on fire and tried to return. Javaman Jan 2020 #7
Iran stated they will not release them n/t Devil Child Jan 2020 #18
then we will never know. it's just a game who has the bigger bullshit spewer now. nt Javaman Jan 2020 #20
Iran is the one chosing Sgent Jan 2020 #23
Trump is responsible. James48 Jan 2020 #8
Students on board, returning to study Marthe48 Jan 2020 #9
Possible, but also possible that someone we back shot it down just to fan flames. Scalded Nun Jan 2020 #10
Dotard's act of war put the Iranian regime under extreme stress jcmaine72 Jan 2020 #12
For some of the actors, Chaos and Confusion are the Strategy MarcA Jan 2020 #13
Figured that from the start when they refused to turn over the black boxes. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #14
Probably? keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #15
God, what a mess.. Maxheader Jan 2020 #16
I was afraid of that... Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #17
Iranians prove more effective at killing themselves than the US Devil Child Jan 2020 #19
Look for the root cause. machI Jan 2020 #24
Technically MosheFeingold Jan 2020 #25
Canadian PM: "We have Intel that Iran shot down plane" Baclava Jan 2020 #21
Why THIS plane? Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #22
it wouldn't matter what plane, if it was an accident. if it wasn't. .. bc it had Iranian students Kurt V. Jan 2020 #26
Allow my tinfoil hat moment. rownesheck Jan 2020 #28
missile system or humans Demonaut Jan 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author captain jack Jan 2020 #30
This is extremely sad NCProgressive Jan 2020 #31

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
2. If true, those 180 people (63 Canadian) are dead because of Trump. Full stop.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jan 2020

If he had not assassinated Soleimani, that plane would not have been shot down. Period. There is a direct causal link. Canada should sanction Trump and Trump admin officials personally.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. Absolutely!
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jan 2020

Trump started this based on a lie there was an imminent threat when they knew there wasn't. Trump assassinated the General to change the news cycles away from his being impeached and for personal political gains , not for a national security threat. The liar is responsible that happened . The world knows it to , and should now hold every republucan accountable by gathering dirt on all of them and exposing them , or this will only escalate, and get much worse, or trump has got to go , now , for this and everything he's doing. If not every corrupt republican needs to be voted out of office allowing this to happen.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
27. I doubt that the missile launching software even checks to see if something is in the flight
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

path of the missile. I can't see why they would.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
7. and Iran said the plane was on fire and tried to return.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jan 2020

how about we all get a chance to look at the recorders then decide what happened.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
23. Iran is the one chosing
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:20 PM
Jan 2020

to violate treaty (ICAO) obligations. In my mind that means they believe whatever is on those memory cards will hurt them more.

Marthe48

(16,962 posts)
9. Students on board, returning to study
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jan 2020

in other countries after a break. Their families got to see their beloved children one last time. What heartache for them. Ft

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
10. Possible, but also possible that someone we back shot it down just to fan flames.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020

I would not put anything past Trump and his lackeys, and why should anyone believe anything he says? He touts our intelligence after declaring our intelligence agencies can't be trusted to tell the truth? The US has no credibility on anything anymore. We do, though, own assholery.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
12. Dotard's act of war put the Iranian regime under extreme stress
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jan 2020

Bad things inevitably happen when a nation is placed on high alert as a result of their leaders being murdered and their national cultural sites threatened with annihilation by other (so-called) leaders. Trump created and nurtured the tense environment this tragedy occurred in. He's responsible for this.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
19. Iranians prove more effective at killing themselves than the US
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

Stampedes and shooting down their own civilian aviation. Pathetic.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
25. Technically
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jan 2020

He’s a contributing cause.

Root cause was trying to take over our embassy and repeat Tehran 1979.


(Note this doesn’t let trump off the hook. Just using the word correctly.)

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
21. Canadian PM: "We have Intel that Iran shot down plane"
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jan 2020

Ukraine has investigators on the ground, I imagine Canada will be sending theirs too

Kid Berwyn

(14,905 posts)
22. Why THIS plane?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jan 2020

It took off from Iran’s busiest airport, Ukrainian flight filled with people heading to Canada.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
26. it wouldn't matter what plane, if it was an accident. if it wasn't. .. bc it had Iranian students
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

on board. the future of the country

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
28. Allow my tinfoil hat moment.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020

Putin was in Iran. Russia and Iran are friends. Putin hates Ukraine. Ukrainian airliner shot down. Hope I'm wrong.

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