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alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:43 PM Jan 2020

Doctor at hospital in Wuhan dies after treating patients with coronavirus

Source: New York Post

A doctor working at a hospital in Wuhan, China — treating patients stricken with the coronavirus — died Saturday morning.

Liang Wudong, 62, died after he was infected with Wuhan coronavirus.

Wudong retired last year from his position as the head of the ear, nose and throat department at one of Wuhan’s top hospitals, the Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese & Western Medicine, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The doctor fell ill last week and was transferred to the Wuhan Medical Treatment Center, also known as Jinyintan Hospital.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/doctor-at-hospital-in-wuhan-dies-after-treating-patients-with-coronavirus/



I know it's the NY Post, but there are other foreign sources
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Doctor at hospital in Wuhan dies after treating patients with coronavirus (Original Post) alittlelark Jan 2020 OP
This is very troubling news indeed. This outbreak is about to get much, much worse. LonePirate Jan 2020 #1
Yes, ppl coming in from retirement, building a 1000 bed hospital in a couple of weeks, GreenPartyVoter Jan 2020 #2
Older but not old. Experienced and knowledgeable. Likely didn't treat the first wave of victims. LonePirate Jan 2020 #3
Indeed. GreenPartyVoter Jan 2020 #4
Why is it troubling more so than other viral outbreaks? After all typically the most deaths cstanleytech Jan 2020 #17
All reports so far suggest the transmission rate and the death rate are higher than other outbreaks. LonePirate Jan 2020 #20
" death rate are higher than other outbreaks." The 2017-2018 flu outbreak might have been worse cstanleytech Jan 2020 #21
10% of the US get the flu every year (3.3M) so if 80K die, that's a 2.4% death rate. LonePirate Jan 2020 #22
Its to early to tell though if that rate will hold or if it will drop once they develop cstanleytech Jan 2020 #23
True but the virus will spread faster than any possible treatment will. LonePirate Jan 2020 #24
That is probably part of the reason why China is being so aggressive in trying to stop the spread cstanleytech Jan 2020 #27
61 is not what I think of as "elderly" Dream Girl Jan 2020 #30
Like anything it depends on if he had any current health problems as well. cstanleytech Jan 2020 #34
From what I have heard & read the virus is mainly killing elderly men who aren't in the best of yaesu Jan 2020 #5
That is not good news for Maine - the oldest state in the nation jpak Jan 2020 #6
I understand but my gut feeling is that this will not become a full brown epidemic yaesu Jan 2020 #8
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #11
strange times we live in nt yaesu Jan 2020 #16
You're certainly free to do that but if it follows the same pattern like the bird flu it will cstanleytech Jan 2020 #18
The Spanish flu spread so quickly too. BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #13
Yeah but don't forget back then there was still a rather significant time delay cstanleytech Jan 2020 #19
WW 1 troops getting sick made a major contribution to the spread. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #28
Yep, I read that there were two "waves" of the epidemic BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #31
In other words if common sense approaches are taken it can reduce the spread cstanleytech Jan 2020 #35
Yes, but at the time they didn't know BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #37
SARS and MERS Sgent Jan 2020 #15
This is getting scary. Wash your hands whenever you leave your home and touch anything. Fla Dem Jan 2020 #7
Coronavirus can be spread through coughing and sneezing on somebody else who is within a range of yaesu Jan 2020 #9
I'd wear my blue face mask but I wrote BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #14
Lol, ok that made me laugh.🤣 Fla Dem Jan 2020 #26
I live in a university town with lots of international Laurian Jan 2020 #10
Stephen King book material nt benld74 Jan 2020 #12
Not even close really as Kings virus had a far higher % of deaths than this. cstanleytech Jan 2020 #36
Our fearless leader needs to take the situation in hand.. Maxheader Jan 2020 #25
Thank you, brave doctor. Yeehah Jan 2020 #29
Well that's not good news (nt) Recursion Jan 2020 #32
I told my brother & the hubs that this could very possibly turn into the REAL version of The_REAL_Ecumenist Jan 2020 #33
Remind me if the movie Contagion. MicaelS Jan 2020 #38
Art imitates life, for reals Baclava Jan 2020 #40
Yep. That was also a coronavirus in the movie NickB79 Jan 2020 #41
Taiwan bans export of surgical, N95 masks amid China coronavirus outbreak Baclava Jan 2020 #39
I think they are concerned about mutation. Laffy Kat Jan 2020 #42
There is concern that it is communicable in asymtomatic carriers. Ilsa Jan 2020 #43

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
3. Older but not old. Experienced and knowledgeable. Likely didn't treat the first wave of victims.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jan 2020

This is some scary stuff.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
17. Why is it troubling more so than other viral outbreaks? After all typically the most deaths
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jan 2020

for other viral outbreaks has been the elderly, children and the disabled.
That's not to say it's always the case of course as there have been some cases where a virus outbreak mostly killed otherwise healthy young adults but generally speaking that's rare.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
20. All reports so far suggest the transmission rate and the death rate are higher than other outbreaks.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jan 2020

Plus, there are underlying suspicions that the Chinese government is underreporting the severity of the outbreak, including the number of cases and deaths.

The only positive news so far about the outbreak is the man in Washington state who has survived at least 5-7 days with the virus and does not appear to be worsening, as of yet.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
21. " death rate are higher than other outbreaks." The 2017-2018 flu outbreak might have been worse
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jan 2020

as it saw about 900,000 people ending up in the hospital and about 80,000 died.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
22. 10% of the US get the flu every year (3.3M) so if 80K die, that's a 2.4% death rate.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

So far, the death rate of this virus is somewhere between 3-5%, that we know of.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
23. Its to early to tell though if that rate will hold or if it will drop once they develop
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jan 2020

a line of treatment.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
24. True but the virus will spread faster than any possible treatment will.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jan 2020

It is a race against time now. Can it be contained before it strikes more people or mutates into an even worse threat. Or will a treatment be found fast enough and be mass produced fast enough to save lives.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
27. That is probably part of the reason why China is being so aggressive in trying to stop the spread
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jan 2020

now as they have a very large population and their cities are packed tight with people.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. From what I have heard & read the virus is mainly killing elderly men who aren't in the best of
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jan 2020

health. As what we have see in past viruses they seem to effect a certain age group the worst, the Spanish flu effected those in their 20's the worst. Corona has been around a long time both in animals & people but this is the first strain that we know of that has made the jump between species so who knows at this point, lets hope it doesn't turn into the perfect storm like the Spanish flu.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
6. That is not good news for Maine - the oldest state in the nation
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

I'm stocking up so I don't have to leave the house - if it comes here.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. I understand but my gut feeling is that this will not become a full brown epidemic
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jan 2020

Viruses change so it may become less virulent & more like the average corona that people would normally get and that type has always effected the elderly the worst as it causes both upper & lower respiratory inventions at the same time. No reason to believe the strain will become more virulent. I don't think there is a vaccine for human sars-C0V but there is for the canine version.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
18. You're certainly free to do that but if it follows the same pattern like the bird flu it will
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jan 2020

not get that bad as long as measures are taken to slow the spread so that it burns itself out.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
13. The Spanish flu spread so quickly too.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jan 2020

In Phila there was a parade and a few weeks after that thousands died. Then a few weeks later there were no more sick people....the virus was gone. Schools, etc were moved outside for fresh air. More people died in 24 weeks than all those who died from AIDS in 24 years .

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
19. Yeah but don't forget back then there was still a rather significant time delay
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020

in communication from one country to another especially about spreading the news about a viral outbreak.
These days we have satellite communications which make informing other countries about an outbreak far faster and countries can also share treatment plans far easier as well.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
31. Yep, I read that there were two "waves" of the epidemic
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:48 PM
Jan 2020

and the troops moving certainly didn't help things. Humans learned how to have better control of "body fluids" when it was discovered that sneezing, coughing and spitting spread it too. There were even posters printed to tell people to stop spitting and to cover your mouth.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
35. In other words if common sense approaches are taken it can reduce the spread
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jan 2020

as viruses need a host to survive and propagate.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
37. Yes, but at the time they didn't know
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jan 2020

that those things spread germs so quickly. When the normal age to catch it and die was 34 years old people started to realize that this was a different virus since it was killing the normally healthiest of the population and it didn't make sense. Fresh air, washing hands as well as wearing masks were the best thing to battle it at the time. The female nurses and the Red Cross saved the day in many cities as there were too few doctors and people were afraid to catch it themselves.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
15. SARS and MERS
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jan 2020

were both Corona viruses that mad the jump. SARS had a death rate of ~3%, Spanish Flu about 2%, and the regular flue about 0.1%.

We are not out of the woods yet.

Fla Dem

(23,677 posts)
7. This is getting scary. Wash your hands whenever you leave your home and touch anything.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jan 2020

No shaking hands, use wipes on grocery carts. This just seems to be much more dire than some of the other outbreaks of viruses. I'm not sure authorities have a handle on just how many people have traveled with the virus but showed no symptoms and are now walking among us..

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
9. Coronavirus can be spread through coughing and sneezing on somebody else who is within a range of
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jan 2020

about 3 to 6 feet from that person in addition to touching someone infested or a service contaminated with the virus.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
14. I'd wear my blue face mask but I wrote
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

"TRUMP" on it with a red circle with a slash through his name (for an ACA rally). I guess I should buy some more.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
10. I live in a university town with lots of international
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

students and travelers. A bit scary, but I’m trying to not overreact.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
25. Our fearless leader needs to take the situation in hand..
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jan 2020

And travel to china, visit the hospitals...press the flesh with the sick...

NickB79

(19,246 posts)
41. Yep. That was also a coronavirus in the movie
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jan 2020

Gwyneth Paltrow's character caught it from pork infected by a bat virus hybrid and spread it globally via air travel. Today we have a coronavirus from snake meat infected by a bat virus hybrid.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
39. Taiwan bans export of surgical, N95 masks amid China coronavirus outbreak
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jan 2020

To address the surging risk of pneumonia and local demand, the Taiwanese government has issued an export ban for two types of masks between Jan. 24 and Feb. 23. The masks affected by the ban include N95 respirator masks, which can filter at least 94 percent of particles, as well as other masks made from textiles.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3863692

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I think 3M still makes their N95/99 masks in the US, that stock will be skyrocketing

Laffy Kat

(16,382 posts)
42. I think they are concerned about mutation.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jan 2020

Which will make it harder to get a handle on a vaccine. They didn't see this one coming.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
43. There is concern that it is communicable in asymtomatic carriers.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jan 2020

This is from an infectious disease specialist from Vanderbilt University Medical Center who also advises the CDC.

Still, the regular flu has killed far more people in the US, including children.

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