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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:43 PM Mar 2020

Russia 'hired network of Britons to go after enemies of Putin'

Source: The Guardian

Exclusive: MPs who drew up Russia report suppressed by PM were told of ‘infiltration’

Russia has been accused of hiring a network of British politicians and consultants to help advance its criminal interests and to “go after” Vladimir Putin’s enemies in London, MPs who drew up the Russia report suppressed by Boris Johnson were told.

In secret evidence submitted to parliament’s intelligence and security committee (ISC), the campaigner and financier Bill Browder claimed Moscow had been able to “infiltrate” UK society by using well-paid British intermediaries.

Some had “reason to know exactly what they are doing and for whom”, Browder told the committee. Others “work unwittingly for Russian state interests”, he said.

The alleged intermediaries include politicians from both Labour and the Conservative parties, former intelligence officers and diplomats, and leading public relations firms. Collectively, they form what Browder calls a “western buffer network”.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/russia-network-britons-enemies-vladimir-putin-report



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And then there was Boris.........................withholding the information.....................

Browder further names British individuals who have fronted up offshore companies used in the alleged Magnitsky fraud and in other cases. The UK citizens appear as nominal directors of non-transparent firms in countries through which billions of dollars have been laundered, including the UK, Russia, Ukraine, Cyprus and Latvia.


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Russia 'hired network of Britons to go after enemies of Putin' (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2020 OP
Would the report lead to investigation & findings about BrExit? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #1
You would hope so.....................when you dig into the reporting you find that Boris turbinetree Mar 2020 #3
It's all part of the same package PSPS Mar 2020 #11
Russia has as much influence over England as they do the US, which is a lot. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #2
Well, that's what one person claims. Igel Mar 2020 #13
one person... not_the_one Mar 2020 #23
This is a war, albeit not a shooting war. Cyber warfare and AI is on the way. Good times, not. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #4
Where's Nigel Farage in all of this? poli-junkie Mar 2020 #5
Who are the Britons? (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #6
Ancient aboriginal inhabitants of England. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #7
I'm sorry, that's not the proper answer to my inquiry ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #8
LOL! Thanks! That was great! PSPS Mar 2020 #9
You and Mr lebowski should take that act on the road ToxMarz Mar 2020 #10
Some people insist on choosing definitions that make hash out of what others say. Igel Mar 2020 #12
The requested response ... was Post #14 :) (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #16
Arthur: Well, we all are. We're all Britons. And, I am your king! keopeli Mar 2020 #14
T'was PRECISELY that answer I was looking for (and MORE!), jolly good show! (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #17
Then those people should be arrested. The PM should resign rockfordfile Mar 2020 #15
I'd be curious to see a list of people based here in the US Sapient Donkey Mar 2020 #18
Start with EVERYONE Scarsdale Mar 2020 #19
It's interesting that Putin and MBS decided to start an oil war just now. Lonestarblue Mar 2020 #20
Well, that explains why Russia can murder people on British soil with impunity Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #21
Greenwald and Snowden were unavailable for comment Blue_Tires Mar 2020 #22
Too busy counting all the rubles in their bank accounts! RealityChik Mar 2020 #24

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
3. You would hope so.....................when you dig into the reporting you find that Boris
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:55 PM
Mar 2020

was really in cahoots with this stuff..........................amazing.................

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
11. It's all part of the same package
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 07:51 PM
Mar 2020

The M.O. of enlisting surrogates, either paid or unwitting, in addition to the massive use of social media to create division and anger within the society, matches exactly what we have in the US too. Russia pretty much eviscerated the US and the UK using this method. It's also behind the 'yellow vest' movement in France and similar activities elsewhere around the world. Trump and Johnson are the result, both of whom act in the interest of the kremlin.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
13. Well, that's what one person claims.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020

There's a lot of "if the right person claims it, what need have we of witnesses and even evidence?"

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
23. one person...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

or ALL of our intelligence agencies... It is not up for debate.

I will assume I misunderstood the point of your reply...

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,364 posts)
7. Ancient aboriginal inhabitants of England.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:11 PM
Mar 2020

Mostly wiped out by Angles, Saxons, Vikings.

Russia is probably not hiring many Britons.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. I'm sorry, that's not the proper answer to my inquiry ...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020

Which is not to say it's not technically correct

Igel

(35,356 posts)
12. Some people insist on choosing definitions that make hash out of what others say.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

Then insist that's what the others really meant.

What's a Briton?



1. a citizen or native of Great Britain. •a person of British descent.

2. one of the people of southern Britain before and during Roman times.


Perhaps we should go with the more common meaning, even if it does make life complicated by seeming to fit the context precisely.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
14. Arthur: Well, we all are. We're all Britons. And, I am your king!
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

Woman: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.

Dennis: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes...

Woman: Oh, there you go, bringing class into it again.

Dennis: That's what it's all about!

Arthur: Please, good people. I am in haste! What knight lives there?

Woman: No one lives there!

Arthur: Then, who is your Lord?

Woman: We don't have a Lord!

Dennis: I told you: we're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. (Yes) We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer of the week. (Yes, I see.) But, all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a biweekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs (Be quiet!), or by a two-thirds majority in the case of...

Arthur: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

Woman: Order? Hey, who does he think he is?

Arthur: I am your king!

Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you!

Arthur: You don't vote for kings!

Woman: Well, I could become king then!

Arthur: The lady of the lake, her arm clad in shimmering samite, outstretched the sword Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I'm your king!

Dennis: Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of governance. Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate of the masses. Not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!

Arthur: Be quiet!

Dennis: You can't expect to wield executive power just because some watery tart lobbed a sword at you!

Arthur: Shut up!

Dennis: Look, if I were to go around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

Arthur: Shut up! Will you shut up!

Dennis: Oh, now we see the violence inherent in the system!

Arthur: Shut up!

Dennis: Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Arthur: Bloody peasant!

Dennis: Oh, what a give-away! Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm all about! You saw him repressing me, didn't you?

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imperfect dictation from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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Is that the answer you were looking for?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
19. Start with EVERYONE
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:51 AM
Mar 2020

who signed onto Moscow Mitch's "not guilty of any charges" decision ahead of the joke "impeachment trial". Include John Roberts in that list.

Lonestarblue

(10,063 posts)
20. It's interesting that Putin and MBS decided to start an oil war just now.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:24 AM
Mar 2020

The two were smiling and glad handing at a meeting last year as if they were best buds. And while both Saudi Arabia and Russia will see lower demand caused by the coronavirus, a stated goal is to go after the US oil and fracking industry. Lower rices will most likely force some smaller producers into bankruptcy if Russia and Saudi Arabia keep pumping as much oil as they can. So two of the leaders Trump has courted and refused to utter even one criticism about are trying to destroy some US industry and all Trump can bleat about is that coronavirus is a Democratic hoax. How does potentially helping to send the world into a global recession benefit SA and Russia?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,473 posts)
21. Well, that explains why Russia can murder people on British soil with impunity
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

and why Boris, Farage, et al, were able to push through Brexit.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
24. Too busy counting all the rubles in their bank accounts!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 08:54 AM
Mar 2020

And I used to be a big fan of Greenwald when he was at Salon.com. I even bought a couple of his books...

Which I threw on a pile of yard waste last summer and watched them burn to a crisp. Very satisfying.

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