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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:41 AM Mar 2020

Man dies after ingesting chloroquine in an attempt to prevent coronavirus

Source: NBC News

An Arizona man has died after ingesting chloroquine phosphate — believing it would protect him from becoming infected with the coronavirus. The man's wife also ingested the substance and is under critical care.

The man's wife told NBC News she'd watched televised briefings during which President Trump talked about the potential benefits of chloroquine. Even though no drugs are approved to prevent or treat COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, some early research suggests it may be useful as a therapy.

The name "chloroquine" resonated with the man's wife, who asked that her name not be used to protect the family's privacy. She'd used it previously to treat her koi fish. "I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'"

The couple — both in their 60s and potentially at higher risk for complications of the virus — decided to mix a small amount of the substance with a liquid and drink it as a way to prevent the coronavirus.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166



Just another death caused by the Misinformer-in-Chief. Rachel is right, they really should not be broadcadting his press conferences live.
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Man dies after ingesting chloroquine in an attempt to prevent coronavirus (Original Post) SunSeeker Mar 2020 OP
Welp. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #1
Yep, Trump's death toll just keeps mounting. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #2
Isn't it great in America? imblue Mar 2020 #28
No, its not a fake drug its a fake treatment/cure from a snake oil salesman. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #6
Unfortunately Chloroquine is now being horded and made unavailable to malaria & lupus patients. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #10
My mother in law takes it for her arthritis. cab67 Mar 2020 #22
Um MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #24
The heartbreaking part is, they were healthy Withywindle Mar 2020 #3
Yes, as the man's wife said, "This is a heartache I'll never get over." SunSeeker Mar 2020 #5
They were only in their 60s Withywindle Mar 2020 #9
Ok it has to be said............................they are fucking idiots. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #4
Sadly, 40% of our population are fucking idiots who would follow Trump to their deaths. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #7
Well Trump is the modern day Jim Jones and they are the KoolAid drinkers. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #8
We have said this over and over again. What a shame. SummerSnow Mar 2020 #20
Read about this earlier tonight on the news. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #11
And that's in addition to the 3 poisonings in Africa. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #12
I read that dosage is critical. Kablooie Mar 2020 #13
Yes. There were 3 overdose poisonings in Africa because of Trump. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #14
Not applicable here MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #25
No. It is the same chemical Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #30
There is no "dosage" for an aquarium cleaner. Regardless of its content. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #39
Kind of MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #45
Chloroquine phosphate and sulfate are still used Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #47
Sure MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #48
Maddow is right. Jamastiene Mar 2020 #15
Never trust health advice from a teevee celebrity Grokenstein Mar 2020 #16
Thanks for the information, SunSeeker. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2020 #17
People mesmerized by the words of Trump will follow him anywhere. PuffedMica Mar 2020 #18
"I told the Trump Doctor I was in love with you!" bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #19
It's not up to me. cab67 Mar 2020 #21
Voluntary manslaughter MURDER ONE CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #44
That was Rush MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #46
Donald Trump accuses Democrats of 'politicising' coronavirus outbreak during rally in South Carolina CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #50
I do try to avoid his speeches MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #51
"Man Dies Of Stupidity" mwb970 Mar 2020 #23
Get the Darwin Awards ready PJMcK Mar 2020 #26
The widow should sue TP45.... Sancho Mar 2020 #27
"My husband took aquarium cleaner" probably isn't going to convince a jury. Hoyt Mar 2020 #32
I doubt it would get to court... Sancho Mar 2020 #36
I'm glad you point that out. People have to take some responsibility. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #38
Wondering what the Koi fish treatment they took is? Aussie105 Mar 2020 #29
Its the same drug Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #31
Trump Cocktail kills Corona Virus bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #33
Patients who actually need it, won't get it because of hoarders IronLionZion Mar 2020 #34
If there were any justice left in this country.... Paladin Mar 2020 #35
Sorry, but those people are idiots. It was aquarium cleaner not even medicine. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #37
Of course they're idiots. But we can't let Trump off the hook either. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #43
So what would happen to me if I suggested someone take a substance, then they died? n/t captain jack Mar 2020 #40
Trumpster: "I would take his advice on investing because of awful NCjack Mar 2020 #41
Oh, FFS, even the little packets of desiccating beads... 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #52
Well now we all know what happens when you consume aquarium cleaner Devil Child Mar 2020 #49

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
2. Yep, Trump's death toll just keeps mounting.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:15 AM
Mar 2020

He was just getting started with the 3,000 he killed in Puerto Rico with his indifference.

imblue

(23 posts)
28. Isn't it great in America?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:43 AM
Mar 2020

He made Puerto Rico great with his idiocy. Now he is using that to make Arizona great.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
10. Unfortunately Chloroquine is now being horded and made unavailable to malaria & lupus patients.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:34 AM
Mar 2020

Doctors have been writing prescriptions for themselves and stockpiling it for their potential personal use. Clearly this man and his wife are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but it really is shocking that doctors are doing that. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/23/820228658/why-hoarding-of-hydroxychloroquine-needs-to-stop

cab67

(2,992 posts)
22. My mother in law takes it for her arthritis.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:27 AM
Mar 2020

She is genuinely worried about her ability to get refills.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
3. The heartbreaking part is, they were healthy
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:17 AM
Mar 2020

They poisoned themselves because of propaganda.

I've seen people comparing this to Jonestown, and it's really not the same. The people at Jonestown were forced to drink the poison. There were gunmen standing around - Jonestown gunmen killed Leo Ryan and wounded Jackie Speier. This was a couple in their own home, relatively safe and healthy, no immediate threat, but told to disregard REAL safety information from experts, and followed a lie.

Every time Trump opens his delusional irrational mouth, he is causing death.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
4. Ok it has to be said............................they are fucking idiots.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:19 AM
Mar 2020

The only thing that can maybe prevent them from catching it is an antivirus which chloroquine is fucking not it and then even if they caught the virus the best treatment currently if they are severely ill with it is a hospital.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. Sadly, 40% of our population are fucking idiots who would follow Trump to their deaths.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:22 AM
Mar 2020

That's what makes Trump so dangerous, to them and to us.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
11. Read about this earlier tonight on the news.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:43 AM
Mar 2020

I was hoping someone would post it. I'm not too good at doing that. So thank you.

I hope they put 'Killed by Trump' on the tombstones.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
13. I read that dosage is critical.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:08 AM
Mar 2020

It is poisonous at even a tiny amount above the dose needed for Malaria.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
25. Not applicable here
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:19 AM
Mar 2020

They did not take HCQ. They drank a fish bowl chemical with a similar name.

The headline is very poorly written.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
39. There is no "dosage" for an aquarium cleaner. Regardless of its content.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

This is ridiculous.

It would be different if this was an actual medication that people may have sitting at the house. Like if it has been a heart medicine or something.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
45. Kind of
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:46 PM
Mar 2020

It's chloroquine. The common (and safer) version of the drug cited by Turnip is hydroxychloroquine ("HCQ&quot

HCQ also comes in 150mg pills, not 25g tablets for aquarium cleaning.

Turnip is an idiot, but these people are Darwin candidates.

Turnip's idiocy aside, HCQ is very, very promising from trials in France.

It's also interesting to note that Africa as relatively few cases of CV19 despite lots of Chinese workers (managers in plants), most likely due to travelers (Chinese) taking HCQ before and after working in Africa.

Turnip is, and remains, the luckiest human on the planet. He stumbled into wealth, has a lovely family (politics aside), stumbled into the presidency, and apparently lucked into a cure for CV19.

Don't like him, but I'll take his luck on this one.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
48. Sure
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

And so is sulfa in place of penicillin (not really, but I'm making a point).

But those are secondary choices if someone starts to have problems with HCQ (for example, if someone has vision problems from HCQ after years of chronic use for something like RA or lupus.)

Been so since WWII.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
15. Maddow is right.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:55 AM
Mar 2020

His lousy, made up advice is killing people. Stop broadcasting him and his lies and his whining that the media is not kissing his Little Lord Fondleroy ass enough for his liking.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
16. Never trust health advice from a teevee celebrity
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:23 AM
Mar 2020

whether it's Gwyneth Paltrow or Jim Bakker or Donald Trump.

The ones worth listening to will tell you to believe doctors and scientists (at least, those who aren't being led around on a leash).

PuffedMica

(1,061 posts)
18. People mesmerized by the words of Trump will follow him anywhere.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:49 AM
Mar 2020

There was another person who mesmerized a population and they followed him into a devastating war in Europe that destroyed their country (and others along with it).

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
19. "I told the Trump Doctor I was in love with you!"
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:59 AM
Mar 2020

If it weren't recommended by Trump, the FDA would be all over this!

Whatever Trump touches, dies!

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
44. Voluntary manslaughter MURDER ONE
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:45 PM
Mar 2020

dump has loads of blood on his hands already due to calling COVID-19 a hoax. Many listened to this and still believe it today.

These people are stupid fools to believe a con man like dump, but they did/do anyway.

These loyal followers are just as guilty as dump himself, making them accomplices to murder.

If we live through this, I for one hope to see the day that all of these dangerous criminals end up in a special COVID-19 prison where they belong already.

Great harm is being done to people around the world for listening to and believe this invalid information from Don the Con.

How many more will die by using this drug unnecessarily and that includes those that need it and can no longer get it being some rich doctor out there made sure he had all he wanted for himself, his family and his peers only to be perhaps become sickened themselves and dying because of their insatiable greed?

SHAME ON ALL OF THEM!



CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
50. Donald Trump accuses Democrats of 'politicising' coronavirus outbreak during rally in South Carolina
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:39 PM
Mar 2020


"This is their new hoax"

I heard that rally, the whole thing, did you?

This link here had it in its entirety but it was changed very recently, like yesterday!

Trump Calls Coronavirus The Democrats' ‘New Hoax’ As Potential ‘Community Spread’ Cases Rise



dump has been real busy alright, busy scouring the evidence!

It is all different now than it was the other day!



MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
51. I do try to avoid his speeches
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:36 PM
Mar 2020

But, yes, I did sadly watch this (only because of this post).

It's his usual word salad of confusion, but if you follow closely, he's not talking about the virus being a hoax.

I get the confusion, but he didn't say the virus was a hoax.

No sense in giving Turnip and his band of merry assholes examples of us being inaccurate.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
26. Get the Darwin Awards ready
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:33 AM
Mar 2020

Medicine is a serious science and the elements involved are deeply complex. It requires a deep understanding of facts about biology, chemistry and, to some extent, physics. It is not based on "gut feelings" or "hunches."

Frankly, anyone who listens to Trump instead of Dr. Fauci deserves their fate.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
36. I doubt it would get to court...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:19 AM
Mar 2020

but wouldn't it be nice to play tapes of TP45 telling everyone about the miracle drug, practicing medicine without a lesson, etc. The case would be fun on TV!

Aussie105

(5,383 posts)
29. Wondering what the Koi fish treatment they took is?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:48 AM
Mar 2020

Nothing with a similar name here:

https://www.absolute-koi.com/cat16.html

Any Koi experts around?

But yes, the Jim Jones/Jonestown and Flavor-Aid parallel can't be ignored.

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
34. Patients who actually need it, won't get it because of hoarders
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:31 AM
Mar 2020

The misinformation being spread by Trump is absolutely dangerous and needs to stop. Deplorables have been sharing all sorts of kooky home remedies from dubious sources and it's killing people. RW radio hosts are promoting complete falsehoods to sell snake oil products.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
37. Sorry, but those people are idiots. It was aquarium cleaner not even medicine.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:30 AM
Mar 2020

Just because its made from the same product ANYONE should know there's a difference.
And nobody ever said it would PREVENT Covid. Just that it looked promising as a treatment.
People HAVE to take some responsibility for their own actions.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
43. Of course they're idiots. But we can't let Trump off the hook either.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

It's just another form of his stochastic terrorism. He knows there's stupid, impressionable rubes out there. He's counting on it. That's why he says the shit he does. He knows they'll believe it and act on it, consequences be damned.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
41. Trumpster: "I would take his advice on investing because of awful
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:58 AM
Mar 2020

business record: bankrupted 4 casinos, Trump Airline, Trump Football Team, Trump University, and had to take loans from the Russians. But, he has medical insider info on Plaquenil killing coved-19; so going for it.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
42. Oh, FFS, even the little packets of desiccating beads...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

...in shoeboxes are labeled “Do Not Eat.” As is pretty much anything and everything that is not meant to cross human lips.

When our sons were little, we bought a big inner tube to use at the lake. It was colorful, and did rather resemble a large frosted donut with sprinkles. On the outside of the box were many cautions, one of which was Do Not Eat. Even tho it looked like a giant donut, it was clearly made of plastic and did not look in the least edible.

The fact that the warning was on the outside of box likely means that someone must have tried eating one.

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