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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 11:52 PM Apr 2020

Barr says Russia probe was started 'without basis'

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr believes the Russia investigation that shadowed President Donald Trump for the first two years of his administration was started without any basis and amounted to an effort to “sabotage the presidency,” he said in an interview with Fox News Channel that aired Thursday.

Barr offered no support for his assertion that the FBI lacked a basis for opening the investigation and made no mention of the fact that the bureau began its probe after a Trump campaign adviser purported to have early knowledge that Russia had dirt on Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton.

Barr, who has appointed a U.S. Attorney to lead an investigation into the origins of the Russia probe, said the Justice Department has evidence there was “something far more troubling” than just mistakes during the investigation that eventually morphed into special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

“I think the president has every right to be frustrated, because I think what happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in American history,” Barr said in the interview with Fox News Channel's Laura Ingraham.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-says-russia-probe-was-started-without-basis/ar-BB12pF2S?li=BBnb7Kz



It seems like Barr is aiming to one-up Rudy Giuliani. Even scheduling meetings with Russian representatives to get dirt on an opponent or asking Russia hack an opponent is not enough to start an investigation?
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Barr says Russia probe was started 'without basis' (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2020 OP
Barr is upset - and rightly so! Dan Apr 2020 #1
ROFL Sloumeau Apr 2020 #17
Wow! :D C Moon Apr 2020 #19
I hear his nickname is "the taint" Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2020 #51
I'm not big on conspiracy theories but this whole thing stinks to high heaven. captain queeg Apr 2020 #2
That was my first thought. When they blurt out comments like this--from out of nowhere... C Moon Apr 2020 #20
+ 1 trillion MBS Apr 2020 #54
Exactly, Captain Queeg Firestorm49 Apr 2020 #57
he needs a probe a gigantic cactus probe up the dupa sprinkleeninow Apr 2020 #3
LOL Sloumeau Apr 2020 #18
Be careful sprink DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #23
used that as reference to a medical device as in colonoscopies sprinkleeninow Apr 2020 #32
For your anesthetic, would you prefer klook Apr 2020 #46
cut billy barr a break sprinkleeninow Apr 2020 #67
BULL.FUCKING.SHIT. Go to hell Barr, you lying sack of shit. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #4
And meanwhile Robert Mueller sits quietly. Pathetic. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #5
Sad to think that Mueller is more a Republican than an American. dchill Apr 2020 #29
Yes. He was aHUGE disappointment. Traitorous. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #37
It's the open declaration of devotion to criminal leadership that's so new to us. byronius Apr 2020 #6
+1000000 GReedDiamond Apr 2020 #15
There's going to be a major push to annul Trump's impeachment. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #7
Good point. They'll probably push to have Pelosi and others investigated. C Moon Apr 2020 #21
There's already been a push to get Schiff criminally investigated. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #50
I don't recall seeing anywhere in the Constitution Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #26
That was written during the Olden Times, before Trump and the Republicans threw out the Rule of Law. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #49
started with a stolen election, ASSHOLE Skittles Apr 2020 #8
Hey 2 Scoops? You're always IMPOTUS 45... Moostache Apr 2020 #9
Barr was appointed without competent qualifications and intelligent... Guilded Lilly Apr 2020 #10
I get it. They're trying to drain all my outrage, say that it's too much. joost5 Apr 2020 #11
Great comment and sound advice. (nt) klook Apr 2020 #47
His defense is centuries in the making Roy Rolling Apr 2020 #12
I have long felt that he came to the job already on someone's very fat payroll mahina Apr 2020 #72
Like Trump,.... yuiyoshida Apr 2020 #13
The Law-of-Trump-Opposites dictates this to be BS. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #14
Omigod! The clown car parade is starting up again! Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #16
Fat Willie Barr is pushing his luck with this revisionist history shit. Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #22
He's just doing what he was hired to do: Mike Niendorff Apr 2020 #24
Let us see the unredacted Mueller report Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #25
Yes, the unredacted Mueller report, ordered up by a judge, is why Barr at this very moment.... machoneman Apr 2020 #58
I have not read the post larwdem Apr 2020 #27
should read "without BIAS" bringthePaine Apr 2020 #28
Barr doesn't even like or respect Trump. dchill Apr 2020 #30
Barr's summary of the Mueller Report was proven to be bullshit Freethinker65 Apr 2020 #31
Who cares what this lying, traitorous little bridge troll says about anything. nt Maven Apr 2020 #33
Something is coming out that he is trying to get ahead of like he always does. demgrrrll Apr 2020 #34
A judge got hold of the unredacted Mueller Report csziggy Apr 2020 #42
That's it. I bet that is why he is out there spinning like a top. n/t. demgrrrll Apr 2020 #68
Fine Bill then release the Mueller Report Botany Apr 2020 #35
I think the reason SheltieLover Apr 2020 #36
If we can replace a lot of his judges, it can only be in my mind due to the fact..... machoneman Apr 2020 #61
Legal prowess not a requirement LTG Apr 2020 #69
And this guy has told the truth when? olddad65 Apr 2020 #38
the number of people willing to destroy their reputation Linda Ed Apr 2020 #39
It's getting close to election time. eom. gab13by13 Apr 2020 #40
Bull fucking shit, Barr, you idiot. This president is the most corrupt piece of shit in history. truthisfreedom Apr 2020 #41
Barr is nothing but an over paid mob fixer, he got GHW Bush out of his mess the same way by yaesu Apr 2020 #43
This guy just doesn't shut up. Impeach him. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #44
Dear Bill maxrandb Apr 2020 #45
One of the greatest travesties in American history is Trump's whole presidency. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #48
American history: Yeehah Apr 2020 #53
+ 100 n/t MBS Apr 2020 #55
drumpf has 50 billion to spread around, foreign countries will definitely be interested. lark Apr 2020 #52
Babbling boob Barr bobbles ball again. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #56
He looks like the illegitimate love child of Ed Meese and Alberto Gonzales. Mc Mike Apr 2020 #59
Begs question then of why Mike Flynn, Michael Cohen and Roger Stone all lied to FBI and/or Congress wishstar Apr 2020 #60
... Solly Mack Apr 2020 #62
Oh for God's sake please Lulu KC Apr 2020 #63
"Russia, if you're listening ...." was the very first basis bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #64
Barr, you are SO high from sniffing Trump-farts flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #65
Barr's talking through his ass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #66
Liar. mahina Apr 2020 #70
I think that the Gladiator Said it Best Speaking to Commodus Before His Demise eringer Apr 2020 #71

Dan

(3,537 posts)
1. Barr is upset - and rightly so!
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 11:54 PM
Apr 2020

Barr wants to be the one first in line that gets to lick Trump's prostate - and right now, there are just too many others fighting to get their licks.

captain queeg

(10,090 posts)
2. I'm not big on conspiracy theories but this whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 11:55 PM
Apr 2020

What is this brotherhood of traitors hiding?

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
20. That was my first thought. When they blurt out comments like this--from out of nowhere...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:36 AM
Apr 2020

it's a setup for something coming down the pipeline.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
54. + 1 trillion
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:32 AM
Apr 2020

What do they have on this crew, anyway?! Beyond wanting justice served and our democracy restored, I just want to KNOW WTF this is all about. They are clearly compromised from head to toe, but FOR WHAT REASONS are they so intent to betray our country to preserve themselves?

Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
57. Exactly, Captain Queeg
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

If he wants to go out and make statements like that, then he should release corroborating documentation. Show us the proof. Unfortunately, ever since this sham began, things like facts and evidentiary proof are more fairy tale than reality.

DENVERPOPS

(8,789 posts)
23. Be careful sprink
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:48 AM
Apr 2020

I made very similar remarks and got a major slap down by the DU "police"......

I cannot say another thing, I hope you understand my situation........

sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
32. used that as reference to a medical device as in colonoscopies
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:43 AM
Apr 2020

barr, we're ready to proceed with your roid check

our usual probe is malfunctioning, so we have this nice spindly cactus



dchill

(38,441 posts)
29. Sad to think that Mueller is more a Republican than an American.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:20 AM
Apr 2020

But I am sad - because I DO think that.

byronius

(7,391 posts)
6. It's the open declaration of devotion to criminal leadership that's so new to us.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:08 AM
Apr 2020

No one with a functioning brain believes this. No patriot, no intelligence analyst or operative, no leader, no actual American. But because they push the envelope endlessly further each day, we stand numb.

Other more ancient cultures have witnessed this, but not us, not really.

This is a man who is standing up in public to say "I choose to serve Evil."

Out loud.

Bill Barr is frozen in history somewhere between the Joker and John Wayne Gacy. Forever. A traitorous devotee of Moloch.

Just wow.

7. There's going to be a major push to annul Trump's impeachment.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:09 AM
Apr 2020

Fat Donnie can't be celebrated as the greatest president ever if that damned asterisk is next to his name. By attacking the foundation of the impeachment they figure they can create so much doubt as to its origin that a case could be brought where the ultimately the SCOTUS would be asked to invalidate the entire case. If there's any doubt as to how the five conservatives would vote, just look at Wisconsin, where the Court decided that risking death is not a reason for getting an absentee ballot.



50. There's already been a push to get Schiff criminally investigated.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:09 AM
Apr 2020

March 29, 2019

Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.) on Thursday called for an investigation into House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), citing his past rhetoric about President Trump and his family in the special counsel probe into Russian election meddling.

“Isn’t that the information that we need to know?” Hice, who serves on the House Oversight and Reform Committee, told Hill.TV when asked whether he agreed with Trump’s recent comments calling for Schiff to be forced out of office, and he suggested the California lawmaker may have committed a crime.

“Let’s find out,” Hice continued. “Let’s open it up. Let’s bring those people forward.”

49. That was written during the Olden Times, before Trump and the Republicans threw out the Rule of Law.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:59 AM
Apr 2020

As it stands now, Trump's impeachment trial proved, there is no law, only what Fat Donnie decrees it to be. Witnesses and evidence presented during a trial? What an archaic concept. The Repugs were on board with that. Within an hour of Scalia's death, Moscow Mitch announced he would keep the SCOTUS seat empty until the 2016 election, but now he's taken the opposite position and says he'd rush through a Trump appointment during 2020 if Trump lost and a seat on the Court opened up. Constitutional oversight? Out the window! The Emoluments Clause? Who really cares if Trump uses the presidency to make a few bucks on the side? He's a businessman -- it's in his nature to make deals. Besides, he said he's forgoing his salary, so it all balances out, doesn't it?

As far as the SCOTUS goes, it's almost as if the concept of stare decisis has been totally thrown out by the conservative majority. In a recent case, Justice Sonia Sotomayor authored the blistering dissent and accused the court’s conservatives of bias in favor of Trump.

Sotomayor said the administration has too quickly gone to the Supreme Court to appeal unfavorable decisions made by lower courts, and that by taking the cases, the Supreme Court is “putting a thumb on the scale in favor of” the president.

“Claiming one emergency after another, the government has recently sought stays in an unprecedented number of cases, demanding immediate attention and consuming limited court resources in each,” Sotomayor wrote. “And with each successive application, of course, its cries of urgency ring increasingly hollow.”

My post about the Repugs trying to annul the impeachment was written tongue-in-cheek. Of course you're right; the Constitution doesn't provide for annuling an impeachment. I would bet the Repugs would disagree -- what's a little annulment among friends?

I still wonder about Barr's end game; I wish I could figure out what he's up to, other than trying to rewrite history before Trump leaves office.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Hey 2 Scoops? You're always IMPOTUS 45...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:17 AM
Apr 2020

No matter how many lackeys crawl out from sucking your balls long enough to emasculate themselves on TV for you.

You are corrupt.
You are inept.
You are pathetic.

The very name "trump" is synonymous with failure due to YOU.
Loser.
Anathema.
Hated.
SCUM.

IMPOTUS 4-eva!!

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
10. Barr was appointed without competent qualifications and intelligent...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:27 AM
Apr 2020

citizens are rightfully frustrated because it is one of the biggest travesties in current American history.

joost5

(421 posts)
11. I get it. They're trying to drain all my outrage, say that it's too much.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:35 AM
Apr 2020

But let me tell you... this is outrageous. My outrage meter is being charged by all the outrage emanating from this corrupt administration. I am glowing, I'm so charged up with outrage. And I'll channel that outrage to GOTV.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
12. His defense is centuries in the making
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:36 AM
Apr 2020

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

Why is he obsessed with rewriting history?

There’s a reason.

mahina

(17,615 posts)
72. I have long felt that he came to the job already on someone's very fat payroll
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 04:55 PM
Apr 2020

Who? We have to read the shadows on the cave wall to guess.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
22. Fat Willie Barr is pushing his luck with this revisionist history shit.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:38 AM
Apr 2020

Surely he must know that could put him in peril.
I guess his arrogance prevents this.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
58. Yes, the unredacted Mueller report, ordered up by a judge, is why Barr at this very moment....
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:47 AM
Apr 2020

made his spurious claims to Fox News. He's hell-bent on trying at least to minimize the blowback on him, Trump, Trump's indicted pals and likely McTurtle, Graham and others.

See, he'll spend a lot of time now leading up to his release of his latest investigation into what he's claimed all along is the phony basis not only of the Mueller probe but even any hint that the Russians lifted one tiny finger to help Trumpy. Then, after the release of that ginned-up report, he'll attempt to go national and blame the Democrats, Schiff, Pelosi and any I.G., State Department and any former President Obama appointee for creating the false narrative.

Heck, he'll blame Obama himself and obviously Joe Biden too. Just watch for Barr to open a US based Justice Department investigation into Joe himself, regardless of all the other Hunter Biden investigations to date that went nowhere.

Barr will stop at nothing to smear Joe to high heaven and not care a whit if any of it sticks.

dchill

(38,441 posts)
30. Barr doesn't even like or respect Trump.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:24 AM
Apr 2020

He's just a dedicated, mind-riven dominionist. Trump is a tool.

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
31. Barr's summary of the Mueller Report was proven to be bullshit
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:29 AM
Apr 2020

That is all one needs to know about Trump's personal defender, AG Barr.

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
34. Something is coming out that he is trying to get ahead of like he always does.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 03:12 AM
Apr 2020

Is the unredacted Mueller report coming out soon? I think he is trying to get ahead of that with another cover story.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
42. A judge got hold of the unredacted Mueller Report
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:12 AM
Apr 2020

I bet Barr is terrified of what is going to come of that.

Virus Pandemic Delays Judge's Review of Unredacted Mueller Report
"The judge's review of the Mueller report marks one of the most significant 'in camera' reviews in the history of the Freedom of Information Act," the advocacy group Electronic Protection Information Center, a plaintiff in the case, said.
By C. Ryan Barber | March 30, 2020 at 05:09 PM

<SNIP>

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton of the District of Columbia had ordered the Justice Department to turn over the report, in a ruling that sharply criticized U.S. Attorney General William Barr’s handling of the more than 400-page document. Walton said Barr displayed a “lack of candor” in his public rollout of the Mueller report, and the judge assailed the Justice Department leader for appearing to spin the Russia investigation’s findings “in favor of President Trump.”

“The court has grave concerns about the objectivity of the process that preceded the public release of the redacted version of the Mueller Report and its impacts on the department’s subsequent justifications that its redactions of the Mueller Report are authorized by the [Freedom of Information Act],” Walton said in his 23-page ruling March 5.

Justice Department lawyers submitted the report Monday, only to have Walton note that he will not be able to review the unredacted version until at least April 20, in light of an order issued by Chief Judge Beryl Howell that drastically limited the court’s operations amid the coronavirus crisis.

BuzzFeed News and the advocacy group Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) filed the Freedom of Information Act lawsuits at the center of the case. “The judge’s review of the Mueller report marks one of the most significant ‘in camera’ reviews in the history of the Freedom of Information Act,” the advocacy group said Monday in a statement.

More: https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2020/03/30/virus-pandemic-delays-judges-review-of-unredacted-mueller-report/?slreturn=20200310061014

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
36. I think the reason
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 03:37 AM
Apr 2020

is that repukes fear losing power & having Dems thoroughly investigate, find dump guilty of treason & replace all the judges shitstain appointed. I don't know if this is legally possible, but that would give him reason to keep beating this drum.

And likely some futile attempt to begin getting sanctions lifted on mother russia.

After all, they might fear leaving office without getting sanctions lifted because we all know people who disappoint putie need to stay away from wondows.

There is certainly something driving them to keep rsising this issue & this is all I can think of, but who knows what is happening with the Mueller report?

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
61. If we can replace a lot of his judges, it can only be in my mind due to the fact.....
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Apr 2020

many were given poor ratings by their peers and in some cases a non-recommendation (the exact words escape me right now) from state bar organizations and other lawyer rating agencies. In fact, If I read this right recently, Trump and McTurtle made such a sham of this that they totally ignored 'do not hire' recommendations by the score but also placed judges with zero or near zero courtroom experience, zero prosecutorial experience and even zero legal (opinion) writings.

So.....we may be able to fire a lot of these very young and highly inexperienced judges already on the bench by virtue of that lack of legal prowess. Won't be easy for sure but worth the try!

LTG

(215 posts)
69. Legal prowess not a requirement
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 08:00 AM
Apr 2020

Legal experience, knowledge, prowess and recommendations are not requirements for the job. Likewise legal groups ratings of unqualified or protests to the appointment by state officials or state senators are not disqualifying.

Once the Senate considers the President’s appointment and by vote confirms that person, I believe there remains only impeachment and removal for misdeeds by the House and Senate.

Realistically that is not very likely. We’re most likely stuck with them for many decades.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
39. the number of people willing to destroy their reputation
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 04:12 AM
Apr 2020

It is amazing- the number of people willing to destroy their reputation for --- what--- a petty, caustic, lying, cheating, low life childish buffoon of a potus...That's hardly even worth writing how Barr backed drumpf on firing the intel IG. Of course Barr did, and of course he did it on Ingraham's propaganda show. Barr makes no mention of obstruction of justice, which was the backbone of Mueller's report, which was unequivocally proven (with Trump's confessions!) 10 times over...Nixon was forced to resign just for contemplating. Or the Ukraine extortion scheme, which several GOP Senators admit happened but (except for Romney) didn't value their own integrity enough to act according to the law..Barr needs to go.

truthisfreedom

(23,139 posts)
41. Bull fucking shit, Barr, you idiot. This president is the most corrupt piece of shit in history.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:03 AM
Apr 2020

Nobody, but nobody, has ever been a more corrupt US president. Not even Nixon.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
43. Barr is nothing but an over paid mob fixer, he got GHW Bush out of his mess the same way by
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:16 AM
Apr 2020

lies & subverting the law. This fascist pig is even more dangerous than tRump.

maxrandb

(15,295 posts)
45. Dear Bill
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:56 AM
Apr 2020

Go fuck yourself sideways with a First Edition, Hard Cover copy of Atlas Shrugged you worthless piece of amphibian shit!

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
48. One of the greatest travesties in American history is Trump's whole presidency.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:19 AM
Apr 2020

I hope historians will be able to explain this presidency, from questions about vote counts in places like Michigan and the possible stolen presidency to a true picture of Trump’s illegal activities and how he has used the presidency to enrich himself and his whole family. We already know about a lot of his destructive policies, but we know very little about the foreign business deals his sons have make by trading on Trump’s ability to give favors, like nuclear technology given to Saudi Arabia.

Barr knows Trump is corrupt, but he cares only about keeping Trump in office for four more years because he could then put probably two more Catholic rule-for-theocracy justices on the Supreme Court. If that happens, we are truly lost as a democratic republic and the only people whose rights will not be changed for the worse are ultra wealthy white people.

Yeehah

(4,568 posts)
53. American history:
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:02 AM
Apr 2020

"Hold my beer."

I wish I could believe the Trump presidency will be the low point moving forward. There are too many hateful, ignorant people in this country and the fascists will find another "strong man" to rally around.

lark

(23,061 posts)
52. drumpf has 50 billion to spread around, foreign countries will definitely be interested.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:48 AM
Apr 2020

Don't believe anything negative re Biden, if it didn't come out of his mouth, it's all Russian fakes. Barr is as loathsome as drumpf, just a totally ugly person, inside and out.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
59. He looks like the illegitimate love child of Ed Meese and Alberto Gonzales.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

Last edited Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

For some reason, the repug party loves to appoint deeply corrupt, massively criminal, tubby troll looking nazi pigs to the nation's 'Top Cop' position.

It's odd, coz they're the 'law and order' party.

Fuck that opus dei swine Barr. Rump's Roy Cohn.

ETA:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/internal-justice-watchdog-finds-russia-probe-was-justified-not-biased-n1098161&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj71t2Gp97oAhXIup4KHZhkA88QFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0IUv3FUggz2zTctixpLve9

So fuck you, Barr, you fat fucking nazi pig.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
60. Begs question then of why Mike Flynn, Michael Cohen and Roger Stone all lied to FBI and/or Congress
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:07 AM
Apr 2020

and face prison time while Trump and all his family and Trump campaign staffers lied to us for months denying they had even a single contact or business dealings with Russians during campaign. Then we found out about the Trump Tower Moscow plans and the many contacts with Russians during campaign and transition.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
62. ...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:14 AM
Apr 2020
Barr offered no support for his assertion


As if the lack of evidence stops right-wingers from believing what they want to believe.

Trumpers could trip over a fact and they would sue the fact-bringer for damages.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
65. Barr, you are SO high from sniffing Trump-farts
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

But Jared says the ventilators are HIS, so there's no hope for you to make a recovery.

eringer

(460 posts)
71. I think that the Gladiator Said it Best Speaking to Commodus Before His Demise
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 03:15 PM
Apr 2020

"the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end, your highness."



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