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UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:14 AM Apr 2020

Study On Chloroquine Is Halted After Participants Report Heart Problems, Start Dying

Source: Hill Reporter

A small study on a drug related to the one President Donald Trump has been touting as a “game-changer” in the fight against coronavirus was halted due to heart arrhythmias and other issues in participants, including the deaths of 11 individuals who were involved in the study.

The study, according to reporting from the New York Times, took place in Brazil, and involved the drug chloroquine, a close cousin to the drug hydroxychloroquine, which has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by the president and others, despite lacking scientific evidence demonstrating such.

Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are used to treat malaria patients.

There were 81 patients involved in the study, broken into two groups: one taking 450 mg of chloroquine, and the other taking 600 mg of the drug. Some participants in the group with the larger dosage began to complain about heart issues, with 11 later dying as a result of arrhythmias.

Read more: https://hillreporter.com/study-on-chloroquine-is-halted-after-participants-report-heart-problems-start-dying-64266

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Study On Chloroquine Is Halted After Participants Report Heart Problems, Start Dying (Original Post) UpInArms Apr 2020 OP
As I said last week bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #1
Sweet baby Jesus... spudspud Apr 2020 #2
During the days before the 2008 recession, Eyeball_Kid Apr 2020 #5
Is that legal? I've heard of it but I thought it was illegal. Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #9
And that would matter to Trump, how? lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #14
I thought it was illegal too, buying a life policy on someone without their knowledge or consent. CrispyQ Apr 2020 #16
Walmart used to do this on its employees AllyCat Apr 2020 #18
Dead peasant insurance. murielm99 Apr 2020 #21
with the corporation as beneficiary? (nt) stopdiggin Apr 2020 #29
Yes. Families of the employees didn't even know about it. AllyCat Apr 2020 #39
If only it could have been trump instead of these innocent people trying to get better. BComplex Apr 2020 #41
Chloroquine is much more dangerous than hydroxychloroquine lostnfound Apr 2020 #3
I totally missed that! The docs I saw talking about it pointed that out. Way higher risk. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #15
Same thing happened in Sweden: Chloroquine trial stopped due to deaths. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #40
Those dosages are a bit on the high side for chloroquine. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #4
It has to be safe in the correct dosage or they wouldn't be prescribing it to Lupus Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #10
Used Rebl2 Apr 2020 #12
Now that you bring that up my uncle took Humira for a short time and had horrible Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #13
I suppose death qualifies as a cure in the orange assholes world. warmfeet Apr 2020 #6
Okay, why not say in this report that the narcissus jerk had no business telling people turbinetree Apr 2020 #7
dying is a bad thing in drug testing. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #8
Why even do a drug trial when all we have to do is listen to an expert called Donald Trump? Doodley Apr 2020 #11
Surely his family is making money on it. $2 a pop , $60 for 30 locally. And you get to wake up dead. mpcamb Apr 2020 #23
Its still going on in Detroit hospitals. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #17
Governor Noem of South Dakota just committed SD to hydroxychloroquine trial... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2020 #19
Who was the Principal Investigator for the Brazil study? Dr Josef Mengele, Jr? Marcuse Apr 2020 #20
Calling Dr tRUMP - calling Dr tRUMP - shut the fuck up about chloroquine. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #22
Well, NOW we know what they had to lose PatSeg Apr 2020 #24
Shite...I just read on the front page of the LVRJ that UMC is already giving that stuff to patients pecosbob Apr 2020 #25
" involved the drug chloroquine, a close cousin to the drug hydroxychloroquine" Fla Dem Apr 2020 #26
That's not an unimportant distinction ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #28
correct. and the differnce here is not a minor one stopdiggin Apr 2020 #32
So he would be correct saying it has no relevance to him supporting the use of hydroxychloroquine? Fla Dem Apr 2020 #35
Tell the moron that The Cure Shouldn't Be Worse KPN Apr 2020 #27
If it is causing people to die, that will be encouraging news to trumputin. olddad65 Apr 2020 #30
Paging Dr NoNothing Trump,Paging Dr NoNothing Trump...Cleanup in aisle 4. Grrr! AKing Apr 2020 #31
Trump, "What do you have to lose?" Botany Apr 2020 #33
I'm sure IQ45 will have figured out........... MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #34
(In whispered tone:) "Go ahead tRump... Take it..." Blue Owl Apr 2020 #36
Every study so far has reported this. ananda Apr 2020 #37
well now they need to run a trial study on the HYDROXY-chloroquine version liberalla Apr 2020 #38
Heckuva job Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #42

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
1. As I said last week
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:21 AM
Apr 2020

some people who start this drug will no longer have CRVID-19 and will no long need oxygen! See!

spudspud

(511 posts)
2. Sweet baby Jesus...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:24 AM
Apr 2020

God help those poor families of the test participants who died. I can only hope that Frump stops pushing this thing as a wonder drug for COVID-19. But I suspect, as with his whole griftin' family, he has some kind of business interest in doing so.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
5. During the days before the 2008 recession,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

the wealthy would take out life insurance policies on unknown individuals who were health risks so that they could collect money on them when they died. Consider these kinds of windfalls for Trump and his army of thieves. He may not have direct investments in the malaria drug, but MAY have investments in life insurance policies for those more susceptible to CV-19 deterioration.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
16. I thought it was illegal too, buying a life policy on someone without their knowledge or consent.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:42 PM
Apr 2020

???

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
41. If only it could have been trump instead of these innocent people trying to get better.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:11 AM
Apr 2020

Isn't he taking this drug he's pushing as the cure? Maybe that's what caused his melt-down yesterday.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Those dosages are a bit on the high side for chloroquine.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

Last edited Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:30 PM - Edit history (1)

This drug is much more hazardous than the hydroxy- version.

Unlike Trump, I'm not an automatic "fan" of a drug that could save his ass from mass-murder charges.

This drug doesn't have a large safety margin; dosage is pretty sensitive.

https://www.drugs.com/dosage/chloroquine.html

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
10. It has to be safe in the correct dosage or they wouldn't be prescribing it to Lupus
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

and other patients.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
12. Used
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:10 PM
Apr 2020

to take it for RA and took 200mg a day. Eventually it caused eye damage and had to stop it. Went to my eye doctor twice a year and he caught it early, so didn’t lose my sight.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
13. Now that you bring that up my uncle took Humira for a short time and had horrible
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:16 PM
Apr 2020

sides effects including hallucinations and a couple years later developed Lou Gehrig's disease. We all think there is a connection. Those types of medications can be brutal. Usually people have to be suffering a lot to take them.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
6. I suppose death qualifies as a cure in the orange assholes world.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

FUBAR = normal expected outcome whenever the dolt is involved.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
7. Okay, why not say in this report that the narcissus jerk had no business telling people
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

to take this drug...................but he said this...............what do they have to lose.................I don't know how your life.............

Trump, offering no scientific backing while doing so, has repeatedly suggested the drug should be used to treat patients suffering the ill-effects of coronavirus. “I hope they use hydroxychloroquine…I hope they use it because, I tell you what, what do you have to lose?” he said earlier this month.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
23. Surely his family is making money on it. $2 a pop , $60 for 30 locally. And you get to wake up dead.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
19. Governor Noem of South Dakota just committed SD to hydroxychloroquine trial...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:59 PM
Apr 2020

... the first state to do so. She hopes that she can get 100,000 South Dakotans to participate, because Trump already gave the state enough for 100,000 lab animals.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
25. Shite...I just read on the front page of the LVRJ that UMC is already giving that stuff to patients
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:29 PM
Apr 2020

Las Vegas Review Journal...University Medical Center

Sorry to link to Sheldon Adelson's paper, but it is what it is...

https://www.reviewjournal.com/life/health/las-vegas-hospital-blazes-own-path-with-malaria-drug-to-treat-covid-19-2005095/

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
26. " involved the drug chloroquine, a close cousin to the drug hydroxychloroquine"
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

" involved the drug chloroquine, a close cousin to the drug hydroxychloroquine"

Trump will use the fact that it was not the EXACT drug to continue to support its use.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. That's not an unimportant distinction ...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

Morphine is a very close cousin to heroin, just as a for example. The former is safer.

Not by a huge amount in clinical settings, but ...

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
32. correct. and the differnce here is not a minor one
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:57 PM
Apr 2020

up string are several posts stating that chloroquine is quite a bit more tricky and potentially dangerous. Not sure why it would be chosen for this trial. (availability over hydroxychloroquine?)

And, of course, Trump has no f**king clue what either of them are ...

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
35. So he would be correct saying it has no relevance to him supporting the use of hydroxychloroquine?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:13 PM
Apr 2020

Chemistry was never my strong suit. In fact pretty much sucked in all sciences.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
34. I'm sure IQ45 will have figured out...........
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:09 PM
Apr 2020

the "trial program" was no good because it was using, you know, brown people/foreigners.
Yeah, that's the reason.
Besides, it just made his immigration program even more effective - fewer people alive to try to break in!

liberalla

(9,243 posts)
38. well now they need to run a trial study on the HYDROXY-chloroquine version
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 05:30 PM
Apr 2020

of the drug to get better and more complete answers.

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