Navy May Reinstate Fired Captain to Command of Roosevelt

[Judi Lynn]

Source: New York Times


Adm. Michael Gilday has indicated that he may reinstate Captain Crozier, who was removed from command after pleading for more help fighting a coronavirus outbreak on his ship.



Capt. Brett E. Crozier addressing the crew during a change-of-command ceremony on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in San Diego in November.Credit...Sean Lynch/Agence France-Presse, via Us Navy/Afp Via Getty Images

By Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Thomas Gibbons-Neff
April 15, 2020, 5:42 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — The Navy is looking into whether it can reinstate Capt. Brett E. Crozier, who was removed from command of the carrier Theodore Roosevelt after he pleaded for more help fighting a novel coronavirus outbreak aboard his ship, Defense Department officials said on Wednesday.

Adm. Michael M. Gilday, the chief of naval operations, has indicated that he may reinstate Captain Crozier, who is viewed as a hero by his crew for putting their lives above his career, officials said.

“No final decisions have been made,” Cmdr. Nate Christensen, a spokesman for the admiral, said in a statement to The Times on Wednesday. Commander Christensen added that Admiral Gilday was reviewing the findings of a preliminary investigation into the events surrounding Captain Crozier’s removal.

But Admiral Gilday’s decision could be upended by President Trump, who has not been shy about intervening in military personnel cases. Just five months ago, Mr. Trump fired Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer for opposing the president’s intervention in support of a Navy SEAL accused of murdering a wounded captive with a hunting knife during a deployment to Iraq in 2017.




Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/politics/coronavirus-navy-roosevelt-crozier.html

[msongs]

1. should depend on how sick he is, being diagnosed as infected a few days back nt

[MartyTheGreek]

18. He'll be immune when he's better...

Eventually the ship will be heard immune I assume. There's like 600 now tested positive so they have been operating this way for a while.

[oldsoftie]

24. We cerainly HOPE thats how it works

[Bengus81]

42. I don't know that it's a fact yet

[turbinetree]

2. Ya Think..............

if he survives the virus attack..............

[hedda_foil]

3. If they put a brown-noser in his place, we're likely to see a real live mutiny.

At least they got most of the crew off the ship finally.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

13. No chance. Discipline is ingrained into most/all crews. There may be griping, but no mutiny. nt

[brush]

15. The punishment for mutineers is death so that's not likely to happen.

[ChazInAz]

28. Unlikely

There has never been a mutiny on any American vessel.

[TomSlick]

34. Not a chance in hell.

God forbid that I should say anything nice about Squids but the Navy is built on discipline.

In the Army, it's a soldier's right to bitch, so long as s/he does it among peers. I assume the same rule applies in the Navy. However, mutiny is a serious offense under the UCMJ.

Article 94, UCMJ:
"A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct."

[dware]

38. Please stop.

This isn't the USS Caine, there won't be a mutiny, military discipline won't allow for it.

[Docreed2003]

4. Not holding my breath on Trump

I applaud the CNO for considering this, Capt Crozier should never have been removed in the first place. Trump, on the other hand, has no clue of military ethics and decorum and is the same degenerate who applauds a Navy Seal for freaking war crimes.

[bluestarone]

9. 100% agree

[LiberalArkie]

10. Trump can always say that he did not know that Crozier was not the one who leaked the email.

[niyad]

12. If cadet bonespurs interferes, I am certain that the media, and many of us, will be reminding

everyone that he pardoned, and campaigned with, a war criminal.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Duh.

That would be a good start.
Second, don't do everything Donny tells you to do if you want to stay out of trouble.

[NotHardly]

6. Capt. Brett E. Crozier is a goddamn hero who tried to save his sailors... if the Navy wants more

recruits, they might want to seriously reinstate the good Captain, because if they do not, all of us, now and into the future, will broadcast what we know to be the truth about how the Navy feels about and treats its sailors.

[iluvtennis]

19. + agree he's a hero. nt

[Grins]

7. Trump comes down on the chief of naval operations...?

CNO resigns. BOOM!!

He’s got all his retirement points, so he will be OK. But a fierce kick to the shrunken “jewels” of that orange traitor.

Then let’s see how many retired Navy vote for him. And for the GOP Congressmen who run cover for him.

[oldsoftie]

25. They need to campaign against him. BIG names with BIG ranks

[mpcamb]

8. Hell, yeah! I'd travel to see him stepping aboard!

Only thing that could make it better would be Modly handing over the keys in person!

[niyad]

11. I understand that mouldy and an aide are in quarantine. One can hope for an appropriate

outcome.

[Paladin]

14. Put Capt. Crozier back on the Roosevelt---with a Navy Cross award.

He's by-God earned it, after the shitty treatment he's received from trump and his goons, who seem to favor civilian-killing war criminals.

[Docreed2003]

16. Or the Navy and Marine Corps Medal

It's the highest non-combat award.

He is a hero for sure.

[DENVERPOPS]

27. Damn straight

The Military Commanders had better start standing up to him, other wise this nation is toast.

Starting with the Secretary of the Navy........Trump pardoning a rogue Navy Seal who murdered civilians, and then a Navy Captain in charge of an aircraft carrier (5000 sailors) who were getting a potentially fatal virus due to Trump's and the Republicon's willful and intentional inattention.

The moment has arrived where the entire military command better plant their feet and draw a line in the sand.

[modrepub]

17. Entirely Hypothetical

But if I was Captain Crozier no way in hell would I accept a reinstatement; not accepting that offer if it ever came would be a huge statement. Besides, why would anyone want to go back to work for that orange sh*t-throwing gibbon?!?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Excellent news. Too bad a crew member, 24 yrs old, had to DIE first. . . . nt

[thenelm1]

21. Dump was still bad mouthing this guy Monday (I think) during his daily tirade.

While the Navy may decide to reinstate him, do you really think Trump would ever allow it?

That would mean admitting he made a mistake. He will never, ever admit he was wrong. About anything. He is perfection after all, in his mind, "the man of all knowledge" and in total control with the ultimate say about everything.

[SunSeeker]

30. Yup, Shitler was suggesting Crozier got the ship infected by improperly stopping in Vietnam.

"Why stop in Vietnam when there's a pandemic going on?" Trump kept saying. Well, maybe because Crozier was doing his JOB, something Trump would never understand. Besides, chances are the sailors were infected in the US, which has FAR more cases and deaths per 1 million population than Vietnam does. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/ You can't plame Vietnam for the 9 cases of Covid-19 on the US Hospital Ship Mercy, it's just been sitting in San Diego before it showed up sick in LA.

[Bengus81]

43. Trump knows all about Vietnam--how to get his daddy and a doc to keep him OUT

[Raven123]

22. The cynic in me says they can't find a Trumpster willing to board that ship

Too afraid of Coronavirus and the wrath of the crew

[TeamPooka]

23. Reinstate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Wizard]

26. Trump's trial balloon turned out to be lead. (NT)

[avebury]

29. Captain Crozer deserves the Kennedy Profiles in Courage Award. Nt

[tclambert]

31. It may be a couple of weeks before he gets medically cleared for duty,

during which time the Commander-in-Chief will no doubt pitch a fit that anything happening aboard an aircraft carrier should lead to criticism of the Commander-in-Chief because as Commander-in-Chief he takes no responsibility for anything that happens in the military.

[Cha]

32. Fuck trump.. Get rid of that Clusterfuck so we can

live in Reality Again.

[SergeStorms]

33. Crozier should accept, but ONLY....

if Trump is fired instead.

[keithbvadu2]

35. Not just the SEAL. Trump pardoned and released a convicted war criminal who was serving his prison s

Not just the SEAL. Trump pardoned and released a convicted war criminal who was serving his prison sentence.

[Massacure]

36. Wouldn't reinstating Capt. Crozier be a kick in the nuts to whoever replaced him?

Relieving Capt. Crozier was not in the Navy's best interest, but are we screwing over someone else out of a promotion they thought they had?

[FrodosNewPet]

40. And this is different than any other time in history?

But in this case, Capt. Crozier should have never been relieved to begin with. And any CO who gets a send off like this...you gotta get him back. We need positive signs and steps to maintain military morale.

[TomVilmer]

39. I abhor the implication that the Navy is a haven for cannibalism...

... It is well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the Air Force who now suffer the largest casualties in this area.

[Blue Owl]

41. K&R