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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:07 AM May 2020

Wisconsin Gov. Says State is 'Wild West' After Stay-at-Home Order Ruling

Source: MSN

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers said the state was the "Wild West" on Wednesday night after the Wisconsin Supreme Court blocked an extension of his stay-at-home order.

The Democratic state leader told MSNBC that judges had created "chaos" in Wisconsin by voting 4-3 against the extension of state lockdown measures until May 26. Wisconsin Supreme Court judges ruled on Wednesday that his stay-at-home extension was "unlawful, invalid and unenforceable."

The governor warned that there was "nothing compelling anyone to do anything" in Wisconsin as the novel coronavirus continued to spread across the U.S.

Speaking to MSNBC last night, Gov. Evers said: "It was four members of the court who made a decision that wasn't based on statute, precedents, or the facts, unfortunately."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wisconsin-gov-says-state-is-wild-west-after-stay-at-home-order-ruling/ar-BB144tqD?ocid=msedgdhp



Well, now the Wisconsin Supreme Court has blood on its hands by ruling based on hypotheticals, rather than current facts. The interesting thing is that Wisconsin legislature sued when the Governor was just acting based on the statutes on the books. The Legislature could have always changed the law, but Republicans did not want to. They just wanted to posture for the reopen crowd and make the Governor the bad guy. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin Supreme Court bought into the argument.
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Wisconsin Gov. Says State is 'Wild West' After Stay-at-Home Order Ruling (Original Post) TomCADem May 2020 OP
Well, at least the taverns will be opened (n/t) PJMcK May 2020 #1
The Tavern League is the one opening the state. old guy May 2020 #3
i live in the far West and we are more civilized than Wisconsin.... samnsara May 2020 #2
I dont understand how their supreme court was allowed to even hear this Fullduplexxx May 2020 #4
I don't care what they opened I'm still staying home! Luciferous May 2020 #5
Me too! And I'm still going to distance myself and wear a mask. Talitha May 2020 #22
Yep I'm still wearing my mask and only going out when necessary. Luciferous May 2020 #23
It could end up being Chainfire May 2020 #6
Sad Timewas May 2020 #7
WI will be like how NYC was in the March. this won't be good. nt Javaman May 2020 #8
Like when DeBlasio was telling NY peeps to continue as normal and him and his family Bengus81 May 2020 #11
What's wrong with Chinatown? IronLionZion May 2020 #17
LOL...what's wrong with Yankee Stadium? Bengus81 May 2020 #19
Disagree Jimbo S May 2020 #32
As a resident of Northern Wisconsin I am living in a red county. Republicans here are concerned only johnthewoodworker May 2020 #9
I'm in Lincoln County and you're absolutely right about the masks. Talitha May 2020 #24
Unfortunately, the Wisconsin Supreme Court bought into the argument. Actually the court was...... usaf-vet May 2020 #10
291 new cases yesterday but....beer kills corona virus!!! Bengus81 May 2020 #12
This is the same court that said you have to go vote in person......leading to people getting the KS Toronado May 2020 #13
Their purpose Jimbo S May 2020 #31
When will the judges stand for re elections? question everything May 2020 #14
Well, Corgigal May 2020 #15
COVIDIOT cowboys Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #16
These GOP mfers are already trying to make Evers' administration do all their work. sybylla May 2020 #18
Videos online show packed bars last night NickB79 May 2020 #20
Some... luv2fly May 2020 #27
Will Wisconsin Go Blue nwliberalkiwi May 2020 #21
I wish beer could wash away their gerrymandering. Talitha May 2020 #25
Governor shouldn't do anything tinymontgomery May 2020 #26
it gets more stupid and dangerous BatteriesNotNeeded May 2020 #28
Chaos is the point EleanorR May 2020 #29
I suspect a lot of the state orders might not withstand a challenge in court Steelrolled May 2020 #30

old guy

(3,283 posts)
3. The Tavern League is the one opening the state.
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:20 AM
May 2020

They spend hundreds of thousands of lobby dollars buying right wing politicians to do their bidding. This is their payback.

It also helps the county coffers as a good deal of revenue comes from drunk drivers. Let the games begin.

Fullduplexxx

(7,860 posts)
4. I dont understand how their supreme court was allowed to even hear this
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

Saying it's unconstitutional isnt saying anything what consitutional provision was violated ?

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
6. It could end up being
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:38 AM
May 2020

a self-correcting problem. I am with you, I don't give a damn what my Republican governor or my state Supreme Court does, I am hunkering down until the medical issue resolves itself.

I think that there ruling was very political and short-sighted and that it will come back to bite the people of the state in the ass.

Timewas

(2,193 posts)
7. Sad
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:39 AM
May 2020

Families will suffer along with the idiots but the smart ones will stay home and survive, the stupid will get sick and die a painful death like Ron White says " You Can't Fix Stupid" But there will be less of them

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
11. Like when DeBlasio was telling NY peeps to continue as normal and him and his family
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

were going to China town that night to have dinner, riding the subways were safe. He waited another week or two until the cases and the dead started piling up and then suddenly became a champion against the CV.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
19. LOL...what's wrong with Yankee Stadium?
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:52 PM
May 2020

Sure the subways are open WITH lot's of restrictions, that wasn't the case when his top health official was telling the masses to jump on and all is well in mid-March. My point is De Blaiso pulled a Trump and blew the whole thing off like Trump until he (or his handlers) realized how bad it was getting.

He was saying all is well a couple of weeks after Trump called it all a hoax at that Nazi rally in late Feb. Guess he believed Trump.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
32. Disagree
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:03 AM
May 2020

WI is not NYC. We don't have the population density. Outside of the SE counties and Green Bay, the COVID has had a relatively small impact.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
9. As a resident of Northern Wisconsin I am living in a red county. Republicans here are concerned only
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:45 AM
May 2020

with their own power. They are not going to let some democrat from the state capitol dictate life saving measures on them. You can generally tell party affiliation here by mask wearing. About half of the people in the grocery store wear masks. This is going to be one bizarre, dangerous year. Practice your best self care methods.

Talitha

(6,586 posts)
24. I'm in Lincoln County and you're absolutely right about the masks.
Thu May 14, 2020, 07:14 PM
May 2020

I just wish we could get the kind that protect us from the virus. The cloth ones might slow down the spread, but I want to protect myself from those mouth-breathing crazies.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
10. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin Supreme Court bought into the argument. Actually the court was......
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

...... bought & paid for, JUST for future arguments. It continues to serve the people that bought them.

Wisconsin Supreme Court is an arm of the GOP party.

KS Toronado

(17,231 posts)
13. This is the same court that said you have to go vote in person......leading to people getting the
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:29 PM
May 2020

coronavirus, aren't they supposed to protect and serve the public? They appear to only be serving "R" politicans. Wonder if they could be sued and removed from office over this? Anyone know if any of the people who caught the virus by voting in person died as a result? That alone should be basis for a wrongful death suit.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
14. When will the judges stand for re elections?
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

Sees that they, like the legislators, are intend to stick it to the Democratic governor at every turn.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Well,
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:57 PM
May 2020

we can only hope that one of those 4 members of the Supreme Court, doesn’t have to explain their political opinion about science to a personal family member.



sybylla

(8,510 posts)
18. These GOP mfers are already trying to make Evers' administration do all their work.
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:18 PM
May 2020
https://www.wispolitics.com/2020/gop-leaders-waiting-for-evers-proposal-after-supreme-court-strikes-down-stay-at-home-order/

These fuckers went to court to block Evers' plan. Now they are waiting for him to come up with a new one. All the while they were in court, they claimed they already had their own.

Remember in school how the rich kids bullied others to do their homework? Yeah, it's kind of like that.

Evers called them into several special sessions after they high-tailed it out of town in February. They refused and left him to deal with it, took him to court on everything to shut it down.

Maybe it's time for the plan to be giving them lots and lots of rope. Let the fuckers hang themselves.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
20. Videos online show packed bars last night
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

It's likely that thousands will be infected by this weekend.

Good job, cheeseheads.

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
21. Will Wisconsin Go Blue
Thu May 14, 2020, 06:26 PM
May 2020

The Darwinian way to turn Wisconsin Blue. Have another beer you idiot right-wingers!!! I'm past being nice to stupid people!!!

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
26. Governor shouldn't do anything
Thu May 14, 2020, 07:44 PM
May 2020

Governor shouldn't do anything, get on tv and tell everyone that the republicans now need to come
up with a plan to solve any issues that arise. Push the court decision down their throats and any
one else that wanted no restrictions. If they start complaining, and I know he can't, say you got what you asked for now you fend for your problems. If they didn't want to have a free for all opening
then take care of them.

28. it gets more stupid and dangerous
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:08 PM
May 2020

In northern Wisconsin, most of those folks go to Duluth, Mn, 3 hospitals for care. There is only a small VA hospital in Superior--even most of the vets go to St. Paul for their care. Minnesota is not going to be thrilled to have to accept all those people from Wisconsin, it's going to overwhelm their hospitals and health care workers. Wisconsin's health care system is shitty to begin with. Minnesota will get stuck subsidizing all those Wisconsin covid patients. Duluth is my hometown, so this pisses me off even though I don't live there anymore.

I did volunteer work for Democrat candidates in Wisconsin because I live on the border in Illinois. I want to see those GOP'rs run out on a rail.

One bright spot though, most of those knuckle dragging, non mask wearers will bear the brunt of getting sick/dying. less GOP voters.

EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
29. Chaos is the point
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:34 PM
May 2020

An every person for themselves environment where no one trusts institutions to function as they should allows autocrats to thrive.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
30. I suspect a lot of the state orders might not withstand a challenge in court
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:35 PM
May 2020

It puts the judges in a difficult position of ruling on the letter of the law, or bending it a little for the public good.

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