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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:17 PM May 2020

Authorities announce forfeiture of Gilgamesh tablet from Hobby Lobby's Museum of the Bible

Source: NBC News

Federal authorities announced the forfeiture Monday of an ancient tablet inscribed with part of the epic of Gilgamesh from a museum backed by the arts and crafts chain Hobby Lobby.

The piece, known as the “Gilgamesh Dream Tablet,” bearing a version of what's considered perhaps the world's oldest work of literature, was featured at the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C. Hobby Lobby purchased it in 2014 for $1.6 million from an auction house that was later found to have lied about its origins, federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of New York said.

The Oklahoma-based retailer was fined $3 million in 2017 after federal authorities said it bought thousands of artifacts for the museum that were smuggled from Iraq. The company opened the $500 million museum in November 2017.

The museum’s chairman, Steve Green, is the president of Hobby Lobby, which won a U.S. Supreme Court case in 2014 over the Affordable Care Act’s birth control requirements.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/authorities-announce-forfeiture-of-gilgamesh-tablet-from-hobby-lobbys-museum-of-the-bible/ar-BB14gLU2

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exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. Three high profile scandals so far
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:32 PM
May 2020

The biggest of course being the purchase of plundered relics from Iraq.

Also they purchased fake Dead Sea Scrolls

They also purchased early New Testament fragments that had been stolen from a collection at Oxford. The Atlantic has a top notch story on it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/museum-of-the-bible-obbink-gospel-of-mark/610576/

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. Thieves.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:41 PM
May 2020

I'm ever more suspicious of what sort of Christianity these crooks concocted as their "closely held belief".

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
5. Gotta hope Trump won't fire them all and return the Tablet to the scumball grifters.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:49 PM
May 2020

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The "religious" right is stealing the human race blind.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
7. And these people had to know these items (perhaps a lot or all of them) were stolen?
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:06 PM
May 2020

Dealing in stolen goods is by itself a crime I think (IMHO) and if not, the items should all be returned to their rightful owner. These people knew that these items were stolen...and dealt w/ the items still.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
8. Christianity and the Bible honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and frau
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:58 PM
May 2020

Christianity and the Bible honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum..

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
10. I got a piece of the loin cloth that Jesus wore on the cross.
Mon May 18, 2020, 11:42 PM
May 2020

I wonder how much he would pay me for it. But (just in case he reads this) I don't want to sell it. My grandfather bought it at a bazaar in Jerusalem. It's a family heirloom and it has brought the family luck over the years.


However, I do have a thorn from the crown that was on Jesus's head. Its got Jesus's blood on it. I would be willing to sell that for, say $1.25 millio -- tell ya what. Package deal.

Da Fruit of -- sorry loin cloth and thorn $3million. F.O.B., Essex County, N.j.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
11. These kind of fringe Christians don't believe in law and order.
Mon May 18, 2020, 11:56 PM
May 2020

In their minds, only "God's Law" matters. They justify scumbaggery
by doing whatever they please "In the name of the 'Lord', and then whining about being persecuted when they are caught.

They see absolutely nothing wrong with lying, cheating, and stealing for the "Glory of 'God'".

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
12. The Mediaeval cult of Saints was just like this
Tue May 19, 2020, 07:03 AM
May 2020

The justification for theft and assault even murder was, if God didn't want them to have it he wouldn't have let them steal it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
13. And they had such high hopes for the Dream Tablet, even after their other looted items
Tue May 19, 2020, 08:09 AM
May 2020
Pollinger pointed out one near the entrance that will hold the Gilgamesh dream tablet, a cuneiform tablet inscribed with a portion of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Dating to the second millennium B.C.E. or before, the tablet tells how Gilgamesh, a Mesopotamian king, receives a divine prophecy in a dream. Prophetic dreams are also a motif in the Bible.

Pollinger is quick to mention that the dream tablet has “clear provenance”—the Greens bought it from a private collection, although he doesn’t remember which one. Asked for more specifics the day after the tour, the museum declined to fill in the details. But based on Pollinger’s statement, Rollston speculates that the dream tablet likely has a documented history of ownership reaching back before the 1970 UNESCO convention that put limits on the sale of cultural artifacts. “Being part of a collection for a long time—it means that legally it’s kosher,” Rollston says.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/can-museum-bible-overcome-sins-past#
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