Joe Biden Goes on the Attack in Local Florida Interview: Trump Will 'Wipe Out Social Security'

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Source: Mediaite

Former Vice President Joe Biden hit President Donald Trump where it hurts during an interview with a local Florida news station, telling News 6 Anchor Ginger Gadsden that the president will “wipe out Social Security” by 2023.
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Then he brought out the big guns, telling Gadsden “My intention to be in Florida. Because look, in Florida, what’s happening in Florida? I mean you have a president of the United States that just introduced a proposal to wipe out Social Security. The head of the actuarial at the Department of Social Security said if his plan for Social Security goes forward, the entire fund will be depleted by the middle of 2023.”

Biden was referring to Trump’s proposal to eliminate the payroll tax that funds Social Security.


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Last week, Chief Actuary Stephen Goss sent a letter to Congress indicating that under such a plan, with “no other changes to current law,” the Social Security trust fund “would become permanently depleted by the middle of calendar year 2023,” and the disability fund “would become permanently depleted in about the middle of calendar year 2021, with no ability to pay DI benefits thereafter.”

[beachbumbob]

1. this IS the message to made made all across america against trump and his GOP, as the intent

is clear and they will do this by defunding. This is an end around the laws

[Lock him up.]

20. YES! FLYERS everywhere on all posts, churches, in malls, grocery stores...

... wiper blades in parking lots, street corners, laundromats:

TRUMP PLANS TO WIPE OUT SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE & OBAMACARE

TO PAY BACK HIS ADMINISTRATION'S FOUR-TRILLION-DOLLARS DEFICITS!

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS AKIN TO SIGNING MILLIONS OF SENIORS'S DEATH CERTIFICATES!

[dickthegrouch]

42. Don't you dare put fliers on my car

Unless you’re wearing gloves and a mask!

[Lock him up.]

45. I will (I forgot to mention that TY)

It's become 2nd nature for me now out there.

[SheltieLover]

2. Joe needs to keep pounding on this!

[still_one]

15. +++

[SheltieLover]

16. 👍

[iluvtennis]

33. ++++ agree. nt

[mollie8]

3. Important

A compelling reason to vote for Biden

[Warpy]

5. Good for Biden, because that's exactly what will happen

Defunding Social Security and letting it go broke is the only thing the plutocracy has left to loot in order to play another round or two on the Monopoly board. They will do this because they are obsessed with the game. People who aren't in the game are simply not real to them. They are utterly blind to everything but the game.

The system can no longer be tweaked, sensible rules reinstituted to try to save capitalism from itself again, it has gone too far under Dumdum and complicit "fiscal conservatives," AKA pro business, cheap labor shitheads. The collapse is inevitable no matter what happens and while I'd prefer to have it all collapse on Dumdum, I'd prefer to have Biden and a Democratic Congress start to pick up the pieces.

I don't know the form this will take or what will start the collapse or when it will happen or what the best strategy to survive it will be. No one knows any of that until it's all over. I can just see what's coming, and even if they eke a few extra years out of it by starving old people to death, it's inevitable. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[calclar]

6. I have been wondering when this would finally be brought up.

It must have been strategically launched by the campaign at this time...

It should be pounded all the way from now to Nov. 2nd - FULL THROTTLE AHEAD!!!

[KS Toronado]

7. We need to insure all older republican voters are aware of this, would help kill their party.

And take votes away from rumpf.

[Lock him up.]

25. See my reply #20 above. Moreso in FL, TX, GA, NC, SC, AZ, ...

... PA, OH, MI, WI, NV.

and:

RICO the MASSIVELY-DEADY tRump MOB
THAT KILLED OVER 185,000 CONFIRMED INNOCENT VICTIMS!

[dickthegrouch]

43. Yes!!!!!

Put the fools in court where they belong. Take away their ability to campaign for legitimate reasons.

[dalton99a]

8. Kick

[dchill]

19. +1.

[fierywoman]

28. I'm afraid many trumpies won't understand that this would destroy SS -- it needs to be spelled out

very clearly. To them it just means: oh, good, less taxes for me to pay.

[SMC22307]

35. Exactly. Spell it out in simple terms for the dumbasses in the back. (n/t)

[fierywoman]

36. "NO PAYROLL TAX MEANS NO SS AFTER 2023"

[SMC22307]

37. Perfect! And wouldn't you know...

I'm targeting 2024 to retire. Sigh.

[summer_in_TX]

41. Great headline.

WaPo makes it clear he's attacking SS and Medicare. Now we need to hammer it home.

[appalachiablue]

9. K/R Spread the word, esp. in Florida. Now.

[AKing]

10. First step to fix it would be to eliminate the tax cap. Let those making hundereds of thousands..

of dollars or more,pay more!

[BadgerMom]

29. This ⬆️

[samsingh]

11. Good for Joe to keep stressing this!

[Bayard]

12. Once again,

Don't vote against your own self-interests, people!

[summer_in_TX]

44. Wonder how many working adults with aging parents realize...

If social security and medicare go under, their parents will still need housing and medical care and won't be able to work to provide for themselves any more.

Unless they are inhumane, they'll struggle to care for their parents' financial and other needs themselves.

So the money they hoped to be able to leave to their kids? Forget about it.

The modest savings we like most middle class families were able to accumulate after our kids finally got out of college would never have been enough to pay for my in-law's health costs or nursing care in an Alzheimer's unit for my mother-in-law after her stroke. Fortunately for us, money they'd accumulated plus social security and medicare lasted long enough to keep her well cared for until she passed away.

She couldn't be left alone, so one of us would have had to quit workin got care for her. And she still might have escaped when our attention was diverted. She kept frantically looking for her husband, not able to process that he'd died two years before. It's horrible to think of what life would have been like for her and for us, if we hadn't been able to make that kind of care possible for her.

[ms liberty]

13. We need to use this like a club, and beat the GOP to death with it.

Seriously. It should be the first thing out of every pundit and candidate's mouth.

[gordianot]

18. Yes and it needs to be done now.

[sarcasmo]

14. This is a winning message.

[Evolve Dammit]

17. Of course he will. Part of the plan to destroy America and any FDR or Obama remnant. Sing it Joe!

[crickets]

21. Fantastic! This is the single issue Biden can beat trump with mercilessly

from now until November. It's a maxim: do not touch Social Security. If you start talking about taking away or destroying Social Security, great gobs of voters, particularly the elderly, will vote and vote and vote you gone.

Biden should not limit the issue to Florida. Talk about it everywhere, talk about it every time and trump is toast.

[Fritz Walter]

22. Social Security USED to be a third-rail issue

Historically, the popularity and indespensibility of the benefits programs were woven so well into the fabric of our culture that any politician who threatened to touch them would face certain defeat. I guess that started to crumble when Ronnie Raygun started taxing benefit payments almost 40 years ago!


Now, big business lobbyists -- who are actually running the executive branch (and much of the Senate) -- are trying to convince their hard-of-thinking base that Bubba and Karen will do just fine by socking their pennies and nickles away on their own, into IRAs, 401(k)s and annuities, which are managed by... big business.

What freaks me out is the huge number of SS beneficiaries -- already drawing monthly benefits -- who plan to vote for the Cowardly Lyin' Traitor, despite the consequences to their own financial interest.

We MUST get out the vote in 61 days! (Or sooner, via mail or early polling places).

[yonder]

23. And the best thing, is that it's not just Biden making some sort of groundless claim

as tRump ALWAYS does. Biden brings attention to it in a way that is easy for people to check. And talk about. With their friends. Lots of friends who would also be affected.

[Politicalgolfer]

24. Two places to hit..

....run ad using Joe's comment day in and day out in Florida but also add to it that it's also McConnell & GOP plan...then run it in Kentucky! Also good to run in states that have Senate races! It will peel away a whole shitload of GOP base, i.e., the elderly😊

[Roy Rolling]

26. Timing

An important element of Branding/campaigning is timing. This is coming out now because Trump opened the door. Once he had everoned’s attention, Biden grabbed the microphone and pushed him off the stage.

That’s how branding competes, it doesn’t argue, it just pushes its opponent off the stage and picks up where he left off. Thanks for the segue, Mr. Trump.

[Sophiegirl]

27. My stomach sinks reading this.

We are 3 years away from retirement and Social Security will a big part of our retirement income.

If Trump is reelected, we will be working until we die.

How does that chickenshit asshole have unilateral power to do away with the payroll tax and destroy a system that keeps seniors out of poverty.

I’ve never loathed anyone as much as I do him and his band of criminals and grifters.

[CrispyQ]

32. He doesn't. But who's gonna stop him?

It's maddening. They knew in February, when they voted to acquit, that Covid was out there. They've seen what a failure the Con is at managing anything, much less something as serious as a pandemic & they still voted to acquit. We absolutely must get Biden the Senate and keep the House if we want a chance to fix the disaster the Con & the enabling republican party will leave behind.

[CTyankee]

38. Yours is a powerful message and I hope Joe doubles down on exactly what you expressed.

"If Trump is reelected, we will be working until we die."

the good news is that he couldn't do it without Congress and guess what they won't do...

[CrispyQ]

30. We also need to ask the 40-50 year olds, who have been paying into the system for 20-30 years,

what happens to all that money you've paid into the system? Will they convert it to market funds so they can nickel and dime your account with fees? Will a market conversion happen when the market is at an all time high? Someone needs to start asking questions for those who are not just a few years away from retirement, but still have a lot invested in SS.

[RandomHall]

39. Social Security is not a savings plan

"Social Security is not a savings plan. What you pay into the system does not go into an account for your retirement. Workers in each generation finance Social Security payments for their retired elders and other beneficiaries. Down the road, their benefits will be paid for in turn by younger workers." (from AARP.org)

So, everything you may have paid in over the course of your 10 or 20 or 30 years in the workforce has already been paid out to retirees. There is no lump sum that SSA will be able to refund to you or convert into a Rollover 401K for you.

So the situation that Tr*mp is creating is even worse than many people may realize.

[lark]

31. That is a very smart and effective ad - because it's 100% true.

drumpf hates all workers and will steal every penny of our SS money is he's in office after 1/20/21.

We have to do everything possible to ensure this doesn't happen - VOTE like our lives depend on it - because they do.

[SMC22307]

34. THERE WE GO - THIS is what will get voters to turn against Trump.

And Biden said something about Medicare at 60 a while back -- hammer on that as well. Fat Nixon will be trounced in November if he does.

[BlueWavePsych]

40. That surely resonates with seniors.

[Cha]

46. TY Joe Biden.. one more Shit thing to worry about from the russian agent..

To Destroy America.

TY, ffr