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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:43 AM Sep 2020

Uncle Ben's has a new name: Ben's Original

Source: CNN

(CNN Business)Mars will change the name of its Uncle Ben's rice products to Ben's Original and drop the logo depicting a Chicago head waiter as part of the company's previously announced plans to create a more inclusive brand.

The revamped Ben's products, which feature the same blue font and orange packaging, will hit shelves in 2021.

The transition from Uncle Ben's to Ben's Original comes amid a broader movement about racial equality and heightened criticism of brands with origins rooted in racial stereotypes. In June, the food companies that make Uncle Ben's, Aunt Jemima, Cream of Wheat and Mrs. Butterworth's said they would retire or rebrand their products.

Mars' rice brand was named in the 1940s for "Uncle Ben," a possibly fictitious Black rice farmer from Texas supposedly renowned for his high-quality crop. It featured the face of Frank Brown, head waiter at an exclusive Chicago restaurant who posed for the Uncle Ben's portrait, according to an archived page from Uncle Ben's website. The company said it didn't know if there was an actual Uncle Ben.




Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/business/uncle-bens-rice-rebrand-bens-original/index.html

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Uncle Ben's has a new name: Ben's Original (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
I'm not black so I'm sure I don't understand, but is it really offensive to see a picture of "Uncle napi21 Sep 2020 #1
"Uncle"( first name) is how an older black man would be addressed marybourg Sep 2020 #5
I'm not black, either, but I think the offensive LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #8
They could have gone with a pic of Clarence Thomas and called it "Uncle Tom's". CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #2
This is going to be interesting. marybourg Sep 2020 #3
No, it's going to be "Ben's Original" as the article stated. SharonClark Sep 2020 #7
So what will they call the ordinary parboiled rice that's marybourg Sep 2020 #11
As a black man, I find this ridiculous Polybius Sep 2020 #4
Do you recognize the possibility that some black people may find it offensive? Cirque du So-What Sep 2020 #9
The vast majority of these name changes are made by white CEO's Polybius Sep 2020 #12
You don't have to "lose" anything moose65 Sep 2020 #13
The Land O Lakes woman is a particularly idiotic example. Dave Starsky Sep 2020 #15
I guess... moose65 Sep 2020 #19
That's an easy fix. SharonClark Sep 2020 #6
Cream of Wheat, you are next. Sneederbunk Sep 2020 #10
I was thinking the same. Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #14
I'm waiting for customerserviceguy Sep 2020 #16
I find, in the South, is what a child of any color calls a man who is a friend of their parents. marie999 Sep 2020 #17
The wife and I solved this problem by eating quinoa instead of rice. Earthshine2 Sep 2020 #18

napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. I'm not black so I'm sure I don't understand, but is it really offensive to see a picture of "Uncle
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
Sep 2020

Ben" on a box of rice?

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
5. "Uncle"( first name) is how an older black man would be addressed
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:59 AM
Sep 2020

in lieu of the more respectful address of “Mister” (last name) that would be used for a white man.

LuvNewcastle

(16,845 posts)
8. I'm not black, either, but I think the offensive
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:26 PM
Sep 2020

part is the word "uncle." Back in the old days, some white people would refer to a beloved older subservient black man as an uncle. So calling a black man uncle or a black woman aunt, as in Aunt Jemima, was a patronizing way of showing affection that offended a lot of black people.

While I understand why they had to change the name of the rice, I don't know why they had to get rid of the man on the logo. Maybe they could keep him and just call it Ben's or Ben's Recipe. And if they didn't want him to be a waiter, they could just have the man dressed in a regular suit. I'm sure they had people advising them on what to do and they had reasons for it, though.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
2. They could have gone with a pic of Clarence Thomas and called it "Uncle Tom's".
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

Except he'd want Sammy Alito in the picture with him.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
3. This is going to be interesting.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

The plain, parboiled rice I buy is now called “Uncle Ben’s Original” to differentiate it from the fancier, newer lines of sauced, or spiced product. So now is it going to be “Ben’s Original Original”? Good thing I have a 10 lb. bag in the freezer.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
11. So what will they call the ordinary parboiled rice that's
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

now referred to as “original” to differentiate it from the fancy prepared styles they also now sell?

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
4. As a black man, I find this ridiculous
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:59 AM
Sep 2020

There's no need to change all of these brand names that have been around for decades.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
9. Do you recognize the possibility that some black people may find it offensive?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:33 PM
Sep 2020

I don’t recall a poll of black people to determine what percentage find it offensive. The ‘uncle’ appellation was used disrespectfully in the past (think ‘Uncle Tom’), and to my way of thinking, it shouldn’t matter whether the majority, a plurality, a minority, or even ONE finds it offensive. It’s a relic from repressive times that needs to go.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
12. The vast majority of these name changes are made by white CEO's
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:44 PM
Sep 2020

They do this to say "See, we're not racist!" I'm sure a very small percentage of whites that are Gen Z might not understand and get offended, but because of that I have to lose my nostalgia? 2020 lost Aunt Jemima, the Native American on Land Of Lakes, Eskimo Pie's, and now this. I'm tired of losing things I grew up with.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
13. You don't have to "lose" anything
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 01:03 PM
Sep 2020

I'm sure there are plenty of places online where you could order a poster of the Land O Lakes girl, Aunt Jemima, and Uncle Ben. Are those things really that important to you?

Somehow I look at this differently I guess. I remember brands from my childhood that are no longer around, but I didn't lose them as long as I remember them. Businesses make branding decisions all the time.

How do you feel about Sambo's Restaurants and ads with black kids sitting around eating huge watermelons?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. The Land O Lakes woman is a particularly idiotic example.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 01:19 PM
Sep 2020

She was created by a Native American artist, who even included Ojibwe artistic stylings in in her design.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/29/my-ojibwe-father-drew-land-olakes-maiden-she-was-never-stereotype/

I don't think a lot of this "cancel culture" is helping in the way it was intended--if it is, in fact, intended to help.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
19. I guess...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:55 PM
Sep 2020

But what did a native girl have to do with butter? She didn’t really look native to me, either - she looked relatively white to me.

And you’re using Republican phrasing when you say “cancel culture.”

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
16. I'm waiting for
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

Trump to call on Nabisco to get rid of the word cracker, he will probably propose that they change it to "soup biscuit".

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