White House chief of staff: 'We are not going to control the pandemic'
Source: CNN
White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said Sunday that the US is "not going to control" the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge across the country and nearly 225,000 Americans have died from the virus.
"We are not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation areas," Meadows told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."
Pressed by Tapper on why the US isn't going to get the pandemic under control, Meadows said: "Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu." He added that the Trump administration is "making efforts to contain it."
"What we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors, whether it's therapies or vaccines or treatments to make sure that people don't die from this," Meadows said.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html
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TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Thanks for admitting that that was the plan all along, asshole.
Escurumbele
(4,004 posts)The more people get sick, the higher the demand, thus all those republicans who are heavily investing in a few drug companies working on a vaccine must make sure their investments pay heavy returns.
Vincent Bugliosi put Charles Manson in jail for life, not for physically committing the murders himself, but for planning them, for being the brain behind the executions, and that is the law that should be used against these republican criminals. In Bugliosi's book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" he explains in detail how to use the law, and the way I see it (I am not a lawyer, but did read the book, and stayed at a Holiday Inn
), the scenario is the same and a good lawyer should be able to use the same law against trump, Pence, and all the enablers. When you come down to it, this is a conspiracy to allow people to die, this is the plan they came up with and by trump telling Woodward he did it on purpose you have a confession directly from the criminal's own mouth.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)What astonishes me is how many people readily believe that he cares about them or put any effort whatsoever into a response. Herd immunity was the plan all along, though it was more like thinning the herd and thickening their own wallets, as you noted.
The ironic part is that his supporters are more likely to be affected than those of us who don't support him.
certainot
(9,090 posts)COVID. they were going to use ebola but it got stopped in congo. limbaugh and sons were already telling all that congolese were coming across in the mexico caravans. trump is stupid enough to think COVID compared with ebola.
as usual, democrats could have known what trumps 'strategy' was just by listening to limbaugh once in a while.
trump coordinates with limbaugh and he telegraphed the strategy early on with complete denial saying it was a dem hoax, like global warming, to force socialist solutions (taxing corporations and billionaires)- then pivoting to it's just a cold, we have to open up and masks are political attacks on trump.
before he croaks dems need to investigate the connection, get limbaugh under oath where he can lie as usual but at east it would put it out there - and they all need to be charged with getting thousands killed, as you say. the evidence is all over limbaugh's transcripts.
icymist
(15,888 posts)We've actually went to war using those words. Look at the timing; an anti-AFA SCOTUS nominee is being rushed through confirmation in the Senate. This will allow health care to be denied to the poorest Americans, the same one 45 calls suckers or losers for being there and poor. This was the aim of the goal all along: Genocide of poor people who tend to vote for Democrats.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)when people get sick and don't have adequate medical insurance, it wipes them out financially and they fall into the lower one percent.
A huge number of people in America are merely one medical problem away from financial ruin........
These RepubliCON assholes want an upper-upper class of themselves and all their uber wealthy comrades, and a lower-lower class, composed of the rest of the population...................
Phoenix61
(18,695 posts)Rebl2
(17,353 posts)No doubt
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)They are actively spreading it with super spreader events hosted by the Virus in Chief--a pandemic's best friend--and through others on the GOP death cult, grim reaper brigade.
We are going to going to control and contain it after this crazy clown gets hit with the blue wave. We know that he is all that's holding us back and paralyzing our efforts to do so.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)They blew that chance when the number of cases were low. Now, because of their inaction, there is not way to stuff the genie back into the bottle. They chose inaction over leadership and now the people are paying. We got the government we deserved....
The Trump administration allowed a trash fire to explode into a forest fire and then they bewail the inability to be able to put it out. That said, by the end of the first week of the Biden administration, they will be screaming, "Why hasn't he defeated the virus?"
Oh, how I loathe Republicans.
exboyfil
(18,336 posts)Deny, be incompetent, and finally conclude nothing can be done. Keep making money and f__k the future.
exboyfil
(18,336 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,783 posts)
Duh. I dunno what to do. Dah. So I wont do anything.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,783 posts)Thank you, bringthePaine!
https://democraticunderground.com/100214356076
The fascist bastards want to thin out the human herd and this old bull doesnt want to give up the ghost nor that of anyone else.
Shermann
(9,003 posts)Good news though, the Vegas odds are on you surviving the experience.
Thanks Mark for doing us a solid.
Bigredhunk
(1,555 posts)So get the f*ck out of the way and let the adults run things. We'll be relieving you of duty in 9 days.
PSPS
(15,208 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)until a vaccine or effective treatments are developed. Problem is, that didn't do the things that might effectively restrain/flatten the virus.
My Pet Orangutan
(12,595 posts)How about, The Center for Flatter Contagion.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"The term flatten the curve, originating from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (26), has been used widely to describe the effects of social distancing interventions. Our results highlight how the timing of social distancing interventions can affect the epidemic curve. In our model, interventions put in place and lifted early in the epidemic only delayed the epidemic and did not flatten the epidemic curve. When an intervention was put in place later, we noted a flattening of the epidemic curve." Apr 21, 2020
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-1093_article#:~:text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Cflatten%20the%20curve,can%20affect%20the%20epidemic%20curve.
yaesu
(8,908 posts)scientists.
sarge43
(29,173 posts)usa
George II
(67,782 posts)bucolic_frolic
(53,908 posts)Efilroft Sul
(4,298 posts)nuxvomica
(13,877 posts)He's killing us with a false dichotomy. Free country, my ass! Black people can't even drive without fear of being stopped by a cop and he doesn't want to enforce a trivial mask mandate!
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)LogicFirst
(594 posts)We have not controlled the pandemic.
Roc2020
(1,741 posts)to follow the science guidelines until vaccines and other treatments are available maybe your boss would not be down 10 points
Illumination
(2,458 posts)Grokenstein
(6,243 posts)"Wanna go golfing! Wanna go rally! NO I DON' WANNA WEAR A MAAAAASK!"
Illumination
(2,458 posts)people. Only thing is, it's part of their job!...
Dopers_Greed
(2,647 posts)niyad
(129,403 posts)Nasruddin
(1,175 posts)What a Churchillian statement!
Just quit right now. We don't need an election to decide this - this regime is completely incompetent and needs to go, immediately. The rotten pair needs to be impeached asap for not faithfully executing ... & a caretaker government put in place.
we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics
I get it - they're going to fully control the grift they can extract from this.
That's the only thing they know how to do - even that, badly I'm sure, or there wouldn't be an unceasing trail of bankruptcy behind them.
Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)Just asking for a friend.
Nasruddin
(1,175 posts)I'm not sure why you responded the way you did, but for your "friend", a little reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Viruses
In total, more than 200 viral types are associated with colds.
riversedge
(79,244 posts)Warpy
(114,374 posts)They're not controlling a damned thing, including that man baby sitting in the Oval Office. They're just letting this thing spread and kill and hoping none of us notices that they're not doing a damned thing about it.
There should be field hospitals in counties with extreme outbreaks. There should be facilities for quarantine for people who either don't have homes or can't risk exposing people in them. There should be basic HEALTH CARE that doesn't bankrupt us for getting ill. There needs to be support for families that are risking losing everything because their jobs went away. And their billionaire buddies need to be forced to cough up the taxes they haven't paid for years.
Face it, they don't give a flying fornication about anyone in this country but the billionaires and their holy stock market.
joho260
(43 posts)It's beginning to look to me that a large part of the American populace is ready to accept as many Covid-19 fatalities as might occur as long as they can drink, dine, swim and party like it's 2019. The "new normal" will not be masks and distancing but "Oh well, Covid nailed Uncle Phil and Aunt Sarah is sick; I'll be at the tiki bar if you need me."
Follow Trump and every city in the US will be converting their parks into tent hospitals staffed by "not a real doctor but I played one on TV."
CrispyQ
(40,647 posts)Early in the pandemic a WH source said the Con asked, "Why can't we just let it wash over the country?" I knew then we were screwed. He's bored with Covid & a lot of Americans are too. The stupidity is beyond belief. And the lack of caring for their fellow citizens is horrific.
"Oh well, Covid nailed Uncle Phil and Aunt Sarah is sick; I'll be at the tiki bar if you need me."
That pretty much sums it up.
Welcome to DU.
Delphinus
(12,471 posts)tried three times to express my outrage and just don't know what to say.
ResistantAmerican17
(4,188 posts)1. Everyone can get a test who wants one, except we are discouraging testing and closing down testing sites.
2. People can just go get the $100,000 treatment course Shitgibbon got, except hospitals have to eat the costs, or people have to go bankrupt paying their out of pocket expenses..
3. We will make everybody go to covid Infested workplaces , but make sure those work spaces are shielded from liability when they infect and kill us.
That got it?
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And why we're out in huge numbers voting you all out of office now. Same goes for you're no health care plans, destroying Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid actions, and eliminating pre-existing conditions. The American people are speaking with our votes while you try and prevent them from counting. trump and all republicans are our enemy, and working for foreign countries and the top 1%ers, not us anymore, and why you will be ousted very soon, then prosecuted for all the crimes.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)He really isn't telling us anything we don't already know. They are not going to get this under control because they simply do not care to do so.
Sierra89
(127 posts)those assholes sicken me. Literally. They have no understanding that they are IN OFFICE TO SERVE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. NOT THEMSELVES OR donald.
meadows is a sniveling little puss and I hope after this he never works in public service again. EVER.
bluestarone
(21,100 posts)My question to him would have been, What the fuck have you tried?
Botany
(76,319 posts)Like all those maskless people @ the campaign rallies, or all those infected people around Pence,
or having schools open back up?
"We are not going to control the pandemic." Mark Meadows IOW you are gonna die.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)He doesn't seem to mention preventative measures?
Rhiannon12866
(249,670 posts)CrispyQ
(40,647 posts)And massively stupid. This Danziger will become a classic.

murielm99
(32,657 posts)bullimiami
(14,071 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)It spreads....
danclinger1000
(9 posts)Perhaps letting the virus spread freely was trumpies plan from the beginning of the pandemic. To the extent that he and his enablers are capable of planning, that is. That king of cruelty is generally considered aberrant behavior. Call your Senator.
sprinkleeninow
(22,088 posts)Mitigations as in: refusal to wear a mask, Covid-45 rally spreading, opening everything up regardless.
Wherz this stupendous healthcare roll-out that's been promised ad infinitum?? All lies. You got NOTHING.
judesedit
(4,586 posts)Zorro
(18,334 posts)They have surrendered to the COVID scourge and forcing all of us to abide by their dereliction of responsibilities.
usaf-vet
(7,747 posts)..... and your solution is to buy more boxes of band-aids.
All the while innocent passengers are drowning every day.
And the so-called captain HAS NO PLANS OF GOING DOWN WITH HIS SHIP.
He has a lifeboat reserved just for him and his. A lying coward from day one!!!
ancianita
(42,784 posts)Whatever and whoever they don't break they'll let the virus kill.
At this point they're all busy finagling Trump's win or his exit.
If he exits, however he exits, he will have left hires across the cabinet to replace, policy and regulation wreckage, high debt, unemployment, sickness and death behind, so much domestic and international mending to do.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)IcyPeas
(24,808 posts)
bucolic_frolic
(53,908 posts)TheDemsshouldhireme
(224 posts)you're on your own.
DallasNE
(7,952 posts)Therapeutics do not prevent so they do not mitigate. Things that mitigate would include wearing a mask, social distancing, frequent washing of hands and avoiding large groups of people such as a campaign rally. No wonder Trump has been such a dismal failure. He can't even get the terminology right let alone develop a plan.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(132,544 posts)birdographer
(2,937 posts)getting it in the first place, then we won't need those mitigations, which will roll around sometime in mid-2021, quite so much. Republicans--so forward-thinking.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)marble falls
(70,699 posts)NCjack
(10,297 posts)DallasNE
(7,952 posts)sakabatou
(45,746 posts)machoneman
(4,128 posts)Meadows admission was off the reservation and betrayed their overall efforts to NOT say they had already decided to wave the white flag. Their messaging has totally gone off the rails now and not just on the virus. A smart chief of staff Meadows is not!