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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:00 PM Nov 2020

Trump campaign to request recount in Wisconsin

Source: The Hill

President Trump’s campaign said Wednesday it would request a recount in the state of Wisconsin, where Democratic nominee Joe Biden currently has a razor-thin lead.

“There have been reports of irregularities in several Wisconsin counties which raise serious doubts about the validity of the results. The President is well within the threshold to request a recount and we will immediately do so,” Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien said in a statement.

Biden is currently up by a little more than 20,000 votes in Wisconsin. No networks have called the state for Biden yet.

Wisconsin offers 10 electoral votes, which could prove crucial to either candidate. Trump won the state by less than 1 percentage point in 2016 and Biden has pushed to return the state to the blue category this year.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524482-trump-campaign-to-request-recount-in-wisconsin




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Trump campaign to request recount in Wisconsin (Original Post) sabra Nov 2020 OP
As long as Trump pays up-front TheRealNorth Nov 2020 #1
so, are you saying the Trump camp has to pay for the recount?? riversedge Nov 2020 #23
I seem to recall Jill Stein having to do that in 2016. n/t OnlinePoker Nov 2020 #31
Didn't she pocket a lot of the money people donated? cstanleytech Nov 2020 #38
Supposedly yes, campaigns do pay for recounts, up front. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2020 #41
Beat me to it DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #32
I was just going to say that NewJeffCT Nov 2020 #39
What "irregularities"? DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #2
I request that my social security check is increased by 1000% YessirAtsaFact Nov 2020 #3
I wonder how many mail in ballots went mzmolly Nov 2020 #4
Exactly! benfranklin1776 Nov 2020 #26
Will Jill Stein pay for it? DURHAM D Nov 2020 #5
But Trump wanted all counting to stop? TomVilmer Nov 2020 #6
That's right! hamsterjill Nov 2020 #7
IIRC, in Wisconsin, there has to be payment up front. sybylla Nov 2020 #10
Yes, but the part you forget is... hamsterjill Nov 2020 #22
NO- he said all VOTING to stop !!! People think it was a slip and yeah Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #18
That's fine. Recount requests should not be considered controversial. StevieM Nov 2020 #8
Agreed. And I think there should be random recounts, even in cases when it's not close. Salviati Nov 2020 #14
Absolutely. (eom) StevieM Nov 2020 #15
Agreed. As long as a full count is done, recounts are not a problem. nt Blasphemer Nov 2020 #29
Who decides on recount? bluestarone Nov 2020 #9
In Wisconsin, there is a margin that triggers an automatic recount. sybylla Nov 2020 #11
There are no margins for an automatic recount... Salviati Nov 2020 #13
So what is the percentage currently at? cstanleytech Nov 2020 #16
.7% according to the Associated Press EarthFirst Nov 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Nov 2020 #35
Let's hope it gets over 1% by the time all votes are counted. marie999 Nov 2020 #36
I'd rather have it around 0.95% NewJeffCT Nov 2020 #40
Thanks. I also believe any recount can NOT start until the results are certified (in WI). correct riversedge Nov 2020 #27
The hill, 20000 is not a razor thin lead still_one Nov 2020 #12
I'm all for counting votes. It's not counting them that's unacceptable. nt SunSeeker Nov 2020 #17
Do they sue to stop mid-recount at a point where they're leading? bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #19
I thought all counting must stop. nattyice Nov 2020 #20
He's trying to wall out Dem votes, and I don't think he ever had covid bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #21
And he'll pitch a fit when he loses the recount Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #25
Might change 200 votes, won't change 20,000. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #28
If it's on his dime, WI will get stiffed. ancianita Nov 2020 #30
The precinct sheriff has to log anything out of the ordinary. alfredo Nov 2020 #33
There are no "irregularities ", and a canvassing or recheck is automatically done. Trumps done. Augiedog Nov 2020 #34
Wait, I thought Trumpy wanted to STOP the counting... LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #37
Cash the check first. xxqqqzme Nov 2020 #42

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Supposedly yes, campaigns do pay for recounts, up front.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:30 PM
Nov 2020

It's a huge state expense, one that many states would not want to do for free. Other wise, every candidate of every race in every state could demand free recounts, and hold the results up for months.

Big problem for trump, of course, since the campaign is broke and since his reputation precedes him.
But he already ruined that tactic by talking incessantly that he would do it AND tie the results up in every court possible,

He's demanding recounts now before all the votes are even in. I doubt many states will take him seriously. He just wants the cameras to stay on him.

Soon, tho, he will know the political loneliness of Palin, and the criminal notoriety of John Gotti.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
32. Beat me to it
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:18 PM
Nov 2020

Just going to post the same thing. If it's not an automatic recount, the party asking for a recount has to pay for it.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
3. I request that my social security check is increased by 1000%
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:03 PM
Nov 2020

My request is just as reasonable as Trumps.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
7. That's right!
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

Can’t get his shit together, right? LOL

He will most likely request a recount in every state he lost - with no intent to pay for it, of course.

sybylla

(8,497 posts)
10. IIRC, in Wisconsin, there has to be payment up front.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:17 PM
Nov 2020

Unless the margin is within a small percentage - then that triggers an automatic recount which neither candidate has to pay for.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
22. Yes, but the part you forget is...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:09 PM
Nov 2020

Rules are for fools in the Trump dictatorship. Can he wiggle around paying up front? I mean, look at the buses at the rallies.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
18. NO- he said all VOTING to stop !!! People think it was a slip and yeah
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Nov 2020

he probably didnt mean to say it, but he sure as heck thinks that.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. That's fine. Recount requests should not be considered controversial.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:15 PM
Nov 2020

We need to move away from George W. Bush's reprehensible narrative.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
14. Agreed. And I think there should be random recounts, even in cases when it's not close.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:29 PM
Nov 2020

Just for auditing purposes.

sybylla

(8,497 posts)
11. In Wisconsin, there is a margin that triggers an automatic recount.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

I unfortunately don't remember the percentage at the moment. The WisGOP ratf*ckers keep changing the election rules here. I do remember that it is small.

Anything outside that margin, the candidate has to pay for - up front.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
13. There are no margins for an automatic recount...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:26 PM
Nov 2020

If it's within 0.25 percent a candidate may request a recount paid for by the state. If it's within 1% a candidate may request a recount, but the candidate must pay for it if the results don't change. If it's greater than a 1% difference, then they cannot request a recount.

I mean effectively, the 0.25% threshold can be thought of as "automatic", but it still must be requested by the candidate...

Response to EarthFirst (Reply #24)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
40. I'd rather have it around 0.95%
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 07:51 PM
Nov 2020

as long as he pays for it up front ($3 million) - 20,000 or so votes won't change by more than 100 to 200 in either direction.

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
27. Thanks. I also believe any recount can NOT start until the results are certified (in WI). correct
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
Nov 2020

me if I am wrong, but I think I remember that from the Walker recall effort (failed recall)j.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
19. Do they sue to stop mid-recount at a point where they're leading?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:56 PM
Nov 2020

These crooks could steal the hair off your head

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
33. The precinct sheriff has to log anything out of the ordinary.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:21 PM
Nov 2020

That could be a campaign sign too close to the polls, a voter refusing to show some form of ID*, or no adhesive tape. These can be seen as irregularities by the Republicans. They even go as far as calling them voter fraud.

*that happened at our precinct where a Libertarian raised a stink that it infringed on his rights to have to show an ID. He held up the line for several minutes. I showed him the statute, but he said that was an unconstitutional rule. Finally we called downtown and had him talk to her. He finally gave in. I hate Libertarians.

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