Poll: 70 percent of Republicans don't think the election was free and fair
Source: MSN/Politico
After the presidential race was called for Democratic candidate Joe Biden, Republicans trust in the election system plummeted, while Democrats trust soared, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll.
Multiple new organizations announced Biden as the election winner on Saturday after four days of counting in several swing states. Following the news, 70 percent of Republicans now say they dont believe the 2020 election was free and fair, a stark rise from the 35 percent of GOP voters who held similar beliefs before the election. Meanwhile, trust in the election system grew for Democrats, many who took to the streets to celebrate Bidens victory on Saturday. Ninety percent of Democrats now say the election was free and fair, up from 52 percent before Nov. 3 who thought it would be.
Among Republicans who believed that the election wasnt free and fair, 78 percent believed that mail-in voting led to widespread voter fraud and 72 percent believed that ballots were tampered with both claims that have made a constant appearance on the presidents Twitter thread. Like President Donald Trump, a majority of the people that thought the election was unfair, 84 percent, said it benefited Biden.
The lack of trust in the election system has led to Republicans being more skeptical about the election results. Although only 18 percent of Republicans had said the results would be unreliable prior to Election Day, now 64 percent feel the same way following Bidens victory. By contrast, 86 percent of Democrats say they trust the results.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-70-percent-of-republicans-dont-think-the-election-was-free-and-fair/ar-BB1aQH3N?li=BBnb7Kz
The scary thing is that this sets the stage for Trump and Republicans to just try hold on to power and act as if Trump won. In fact, because Republicans are only concerned about their base, they may feel obligated to see this through, particularly since Trump can now install someone who is loyal as his Secretary of Defense.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Well, in the alternate fake news/QAnon universe that many conservatives live in, they are already at that point believing that the Presidency was stolen from them. This is why you have the White House actively fanning the flames.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,574 posts)At least, that's how I feel today
My Pet Orangutan
(9,246 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)StaunchDemocrat1957
(66 posts)Randi Rhodes
@RandiRhodes
Hours after Barr tells federal prosecutors to investigate any "substantial allegations" of voter fraud, Justice Department official who oversees investigations of voter fraud, Richard Pilger, QUITS!
Thank you
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Trump is up to something!
CatMor
(6,212 posts)Joe Biden won the election fair and square period.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Republicans are in too deep. Do we really expect after four years of Trump, that they are suddenly going to respect rule of law?
CatMor
(6,212 posts)show some proof there was cheating. Everyone knows they can't because cheating did not take place by Democrats. Do they think if they cause enough chaos trump will be President. If so they are sorely mistaken.
Lock him up.
(6,928 posts)EndlessWire
(6,526 posts)Their logic follows his: If he didn't win, then there was cheating.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)fantase56
(444 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... 100% of Democrats don't give a fuck what Republicans think - especially in view of the fact that for the past four years, Republicans have proven themselves incapable of thinking at all.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)in 2000 and 2004, they would have had the same poll results. just saying.
In all three cases, the RepubliCONs are the ones that have corrupted these elections.
The reality is, that this RepubliCon Party is he most thoroughly corrupt political party in the history of our nation.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)face the fact that the GOP will burn the country down to avoid losing?
BumRushDaShow
(128,940 posts)sortof OTT CT but... As much as we have accused the GOP of finding ways to suppress the votes (of Democrats), including dicking around with the touchscreen machines - well imagine if Democrats had an alternative to the machine - say "mail-in ballots" (which are hand-marked and scanned). Why... something like that would completely bypass those "pre-programmed" (in quotes) machines, wouldn't they?
And that lead to the knee-capping of the USPS. But then those pesky "drop boxes" appeared so now we get treated with a fusillade of frivolous lawsuits while they pound the air with their fists yelling "Curses!!! Foiled again!"
It's like a mass hysteria version of the Karl Rove meltdown in 2012!
NCjack
(10,279 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)I was going to say 70,000,000 Americans are fucking assholes.
But I like your phrasing better....
underpants
(182,797 posts)Hanzzy72
(51 posts)These people are dangerous. Their reality is so distorted...they actually think Trump is going to arrest everyone. If he tries something crazy they will absolutely support him regardless of what the election results say.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)pathetic
orleans
(34,051 posts)William Seger
(10,778 posts)I think the bastard damn near stole it!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)It scares the living daylights out of me that the country I thought I knew is populated by many millions of people who are living in some alternate reality of their own. Its truly frightening and depressing. Maybe when their dear leader fades away theyll just kind of retreat underground. They dont even really have Fox News to reinforce their craziness anymore. At least on this particular score.
Lock him up.
(6,928 posts)Here's the one about Dominion Voting Systems in Michigan debunked on Snopes:
RUMOR ALERT: Dominion Voting Systems Fraud Claims
Isolated incidents that were quickly rectified were used to imply widespread voter fraud was occurring in 2020.
Link: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rumor-alert-dominion-voting-systems-fraud-claims/
And then, when one or two rumors don't work, they invent new ones and post them:
Link to tweet
louis-t
(23,292 posts)Just like the 'investigations' of Hillary Clinton. Some asshole Republican will slither up to a podium and announce "Well, we haven't found anything yet but we still have a lot of QUESTIONS!!!"
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Just like a spoiled little brat, the will never be happy unless they get everything they want. Even then they will never be happy.
andym
(5,443 posts)The question is how to accomplish it?
keithbvadu2
(36,793 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Looking at it from the other side; If ballots WERE tampered by Democrats, why would they not also tick down ballot boxes too while they're at it?
C Moon
(12,213 posts)When we try this again in 2022, you're going to be picking yourselves up off the floor.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Or, do they just like to Frick with our heads? A little of both I think. Any time I talk with a Republican or listen to rump I walk away with a case of Cognitive Dissidence. I have to remember to just walk away. Some things just are. LOL
BaronChocula
(1,550 posts)who only think it's fair when they win.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)They seem to just believe everything the lying piece of shit says.
But they believe evangelical preaching con men too.
Republicans seem to seek out dishonest, selfish creeps just so they can debase themselves by believing everything they say.
jb5150
(1,178 posts)In any case, I'm past the point of caring ....
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)There's probably 25% that is unreachably nuts. The same 25% that never abandoned GWB.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Shoe me once, shoes on you
Shoe me twice...I'm keepin' those shoes
...Will Ferrell (as George W Bush on SNL)
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)I think the prediction of violent protests was more bullshit dreamed up on social media and amplified by cable news.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)They don't want Biden, because many of them are going to prison for treasonthe ring leader Moscow Mitch, included.
Whatever they are planning, will NOT be fair, and it will not be true. They need to abide by our laws. I can see them wanting to recount ballots with their own representatives and nobody else present, and I bet they'll request this from the Supreme Court.
dexdah
(45 posts)They dont have the balls!
Yes, you do have the power!
Stand up to them!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)one involving AL GORE and one involving HILLARY CLINTON. So, Republicans sit on it and rotate!
W T F
(1,147 posts)But thats ok, Democrats came out in numbers and overwhelmed their pathetic attempts to steal the election. USA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
ancianita
(36,053 posts)This can't be a credible claim unless we know the exact number of Republicans in the US.
Does anyone have a link? I can't find any count online.
Such discussions are shady imaginings when we can't know what the real numbers are behind some claimed percentage.
onetexan
(13,040 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,095 posts)and the Republicans would believe it was a fair election process.
EndlessWire
(6,526 posts)Remember that? Trump deserved to lose. He lost fair and square with pushback from those workers determined to do their jobs fair and square.
It pisses me off that the GOP is now impugning the integrity of those workers.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Between Dejoy, the Florida republicans reaction to voters allowing felons to vote, and all the rest of the more local supression efforts.. Trump and his klan did their level best to make sure that the vote wouldnt be fair.
And they still lost.
kurtcagle
(1,602 posts)As part of that newsletter, I usually write a short two or three-paragraph blurb summing up the previous week, and this time around I wrote specifically about the election and the fact that data science has real-world implications.
I received a letter to the editor accusing me of bias because I had made the statement that the media had made the calls for Joe Biden, his letter saying not only that real machine learning techniques would have proven that the race was stolen by Biden and that Biden was not yet legitimate and probably shouldn't be. I figured - hey, someone who knows about machine learning enough to talk about it, lets' engage him in conversation and see where it leads. Where it led was down the same rabbit hole I expected it would - shadowy cabals, unsubstantiated analysis going deep into conspiracy theory land. There are entirely too many who have drunk the koolaid already.
StaunchDemocrat1957
(66 posts)than those who loved him.. They thought they were in the majority!
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)"the election wasn't free and fair" to the Republicans means "a Democrat won the presidency."
At this point in time, I really don't care whether Republicans think, the election was fair, because I know they never will - simply because they don't give a flying fuck about election integrity so long as a Republican wins.
The worst part is, if we could find incontrovertible proof Putin and Trump manipulated the election, which they probably did, to put Trump back in office over the will of the people, they'd stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes real tight, and yell out "Fake news! Fake news! La-la-la-la...I can't hear you! Fake news!"
Therefore, the thing to do is to just let Trump scream all the way to January 20, when he's being carried out of the White House screaming "I won bigly! It was stolen! No one voted for Sleepy Joe!"
olddad65
(599 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)They say "Benghazi", I say "Comey".
Now, I say "cheese" while they whine.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)With the whole Bush v Gore fiasco.
But the voter suppression and other shenanigans have gone on, to varying degrees, since the beginning.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)They are irrevocably brainwashed, and are living in a Matrix like alternate reality.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)And people want me to make nice with these assholes? They listen to Mango Mussolini and believe his every word. They're fucking morons.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)🤷♂️
lastlib
(23,224 posts)MissMillie
(38,556 posts)hold as much influence with them anymore.
FakeNoose
(32,638 posts)... so isn't it amazing that only 70% believe the lies?
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)malthaussen
(17,194 posts)Hotler
(11,421 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)They want a one-party state. I'm sick of them and sick of hearing about them.
It was nice to have a couple of days where I wasn't anxious about politics. Now the old feeling is back with the ACA case and the attempt at damaging the perception of the election being fair.
llmart
(15,536 posts)I certainly don't.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)EC gives them way more of a chance with unpopular candidates than popular vote does. They are whiny butts who can't except the rest of us do not like Trump. They live in a delusional world where all their media tells them they are right and everyone loves Trump. This election didn't jive with their persepctive, so they think it must be wrong.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)I would love to know!