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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:04 AM Nov 2020

Half of Republicans say Biden won because of a 'rigged' election: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Source: Reuters




NOVEMBER 18, 20206:05 AM UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO

By Chris Kahn

(Reuters) - About half of all Republicans believe President Donald Trump “rightfully won” the U.S. election but that it was stolen from him by widespread voter fraud that favored Democratic President-elect Joe Biden, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

The Nov. 13-17 opinion poll showed that Trump’s open defiance of Biden’s victory in both the popular vote and Electoral College appears to be affecting the public’s confidence in American democracy, especially among Republicans.

Altogether, 73% of those polled agreed that Biden won the election while 5% thought Trump won. But when asked specifically whether Biden had “rightfully won,” Republicans showed they were suspicious about how Biden’s victory was obtained.

Fifty-two percent of Republicans said that Trump “rightfully won,” while only 29% said that Biden had rightfully won.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKBN27Y1AJ

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Half of Republicans say Biden won because of a 'rigged' election: Reuters/Ipsos poll (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2020 OP
Republicans, in general, are not the sharpest tools in the tool shed. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2020 #1
problem is they are want to be lied to and no way to fix that in these people, going forward beachbumbob Nov 2020 #4
It keeps nagging me in the back of my mind that America's best years are over, being destroyed RKP5637 Nov 2020 #15
there are 1500 UNCHALLENGED coordinated radio stations out there lying all day certainot Nov 2020 #27
Americans, somehow, need a massive educational program about lying and deception. The problem is RKP5637 Nov 2020 #30
there's a fair bit of evidence russia's been feeding/using talk radio here since at least 2008 certainot Nov 2020 #40
Absolutely!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2020 #42
The good news Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #34
Limbaugh got so filthy stinking rich with his lies FakeNoose Nov 2020 #37
for boycotts, heres a link to a radio site with links to talk station/feeds by state certainot Nov 2020 #38
thots and prayers certainot Nov 2020 #39
52% of Republicans agree Biden rightfully won. Freethinker65 Nov 2020 #2
Agreed greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author pandr32 Nov 2020 #19
That 52% is for Republicans who believe Trump rightfully won. 29% believe Biden rightfully won. Doodley Nov 2020 #21
If their media told them so, in about 2 weeks 1/2 of them would say they are fire trucks underpants Nov 2020 #3
... worse than a military invasion force against the US. RKP5637 Nov 2020 #17
Many musclecar6 Nov 2020 #5
Dear Republicans, explain "rigged" with evidence please. apnu Nov 2020 #6
Down from 70% greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #7
If certain groups of people are predisposed to believing lies and propaganda, NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #9
From last night ..... Sedition Media aka Fox, NewsMax, Fox Biz, and so on Botany Nov 2020 #10
"Rigged" means People of all colors are "mostly" allowed to vote. liberalmuse Nov 2020 #11
What do we care? Repukes represent the lowest IQ group in the nation. truthisfreedom Nov 2020 #12
Yeah ... always reminds me that 1/2 the people you meet have an IQ under 100. The GOP RKP5637 Nov 2020 #18
Not shocked, Trumpster has 95% Republican approval last I checked n/t hibbing Nov 2020 #13
100% of Democrats knew Trump's was rigged. marble falls Nov 2020 #14
WHAT does "republican" mean - people who voted that way? registered card carrying repubs? people Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #16
Only half? Just 36 million live their own reality? rickyhall Nov 2020 #20
And newdayneeded Nov 2020 #23
Agree, and i don't believe all 1/3 of the rabid base actually believe election was rigged. onetexan Nov 2020 #25
And that means that half accept it. ananda Nov 2020 #22
They are mostly the same folk who believe Covid is fake or exaggerated, that Obama wasn't born in Doodley Nov 2020 #24
Cognitive dissonance The Wizard Nov 2020 #26
Just curious, Sudsy Nov 2020 #28
Lets put it this way- LisaL Nov 2020 #29
Projecting this poll result to the total adult population that identifies as Republican... LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #31
and that is part of the mission of the GOP propaganda blitz. themaguffin Nov 2020 #32
Of course they think Biden rigged the election. Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #33
Half the GOP thinks Trump's farts cure cancer Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #35
When they say "Trump won" just tell them "So did Al Gore"😂😂🇺🇸 W T F Nov 2020 #36
Wonder why I'm supposed to care? I don't care if 90% of those idiots belive him... Bengus81 Nov 2020 #41
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. problem is they are want to be lied to and no way to fix that in these people, going forward
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:15 AM
Nov 2020

with elections and democracy in America is going to be extremely difficult. 2022 bodes terrible for democrats at this point

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
15. It keeps nagging me in the back of my mind that America's best years are over, being destroyed
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

from within by those that get their news and direction from outright lies. The naiveness and gullibility in today's American is unbelievable.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
27. there are 1500 UNCHALLENGED coordinated radio stations out there lying all day
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

probably with US and russian think tank callers doing a lot of work - for 30 years.

with no polling to show trump -rw radio connection..... and limbaugh's leading the chorus about massive voter fraud by the biden criminals

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
30. Americans, somehow, need a massive educational program about lying and deception. The problem is
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

the idiot factor of the US would not believe it. Many deception spewers are making money as they drag the country to the bottom. Yep, free speech, but responsible and truthful free speech is needed. I guess a start would be to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. there's a fair bit of evidence russia's been feeding/using talk radio here since at least 2008
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:23 PM
Nov 2020

media needs to expose the blowhards as putin tools and a lot of that base will wither fast

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
37. Limbaugh got so filthy stinking rich with his lies
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

I think he's worth something like $60 million. Don't you think there's a whole army of liars waiting to take his place?

What we need to do is take the profit out of the lying-hate radio. We need to launch a nation-wide boycott of products and services that are advertised on those ultra-conservative stations.





 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. for boycotts, heres a link to a radio site with links to talk station/feeds by state
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:20 PM
Nov 2020
https://mytuner-radio.com/radio/country/united-states/state/georgia/genre/talk-stations

then they can be recorded and transcribed at place like sonix.ai and advertisers can be listed with little or no listening.

when the ad industry gets a whiff there's a stoprush x 100 possible they will break up the monopoly - no new FD needed.

Freethinker65

(10,010 posts)
2. 52% of Republicans agree Biden rightfully won.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:09 AM
Nov 2020

Considering the disinformation Trump has been pushing, that isn't that bad.

Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #2)

underpants

(182,773 posts)
3. If their media told them so, in about 2 weeks 1/2 of them would say they are fire trucks
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

Now they have Fox AND OAN and Newsmax plus all the internet echo chamber and the Q.

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
5. Many
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:19 AM
Nov 2020


Republicans should be voting Democrat if they are voting in their own self interest. That said those who still vote Republican when it would serve them better to vote Democrat, are just fucking stupid. So it’s no surprise that they will listen to trump’s completely self-serving nonsense.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
6. Dear Republicans, explain "rigged" with evidence please.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

While you are at it, please explain our election system and how it was "rigged"

Take all the time you need.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
9. If certain groups of people are predisposed to believing lies and propaganda,
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:33 AM
Nov 2020

Republican voters are the perfect example of that. Brainwashing happens easier for some groups, apparently.

Botany

(70,494 posts)
10. From last night ..... Sedition Media aka Fox, NewsMax, Fox Biz, and so on
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

I just spent the last couple of hours on our first cold night on the couch with my
"lab blanket" on top of me half sleeping and half channel surfing and God God in
Butter but here was my take away. And I never watch that right wing crap

Fox w/Tucker .... holding up some Oregon county commissioner and how she refuses
to wear a mask and her plans for a big maskless family/friends Thanksgiving .... as if she
is some kind of hero fighting against "big liberal government." Not that she is some kind of
nut job who is putting people's lives at risk.

NewsMax .... God only knows the names of these creatures .... I think Sean Spicer was there
about the growing movement that will flip the election to Trump and the real Hunter Biden
election rigging story ... and Senator Kennedy about some breaking shit that will blow the
lid off of Biden's phony victory that it is a product of the media or something like that.

Fox Biz .... how Twitter flagging false postings by Trump is an example of the liberal media
thought police trying to silence "the truth."

Fox News Chyron ..... Dems in disarray Looking to Replace Pelosi ... we just flipped 5 states
and took back the White House and with a real chance to take the senate too.

Even though we have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential election (2004 we didn't
but that election was very dirty) somebody or some groups of bodies are spending millions
if not billions bathing a % of Americans in pure crap and lies.

These fuckers aim to take down Biden and Harris even before they get into office.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
11. "Rigged" means People of all colors are "mostly" allowed to vote.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:38 AM
Nov 2020

They are so used to voter suppression at the polls on election day I guess they are shocked at what happens when people, especially people of color are allowed to vote. Mail-in ballots aren't marked by skin color.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
18. Yeah ... always reminds me that 1/2 the people you meet have an IQ under 100. The GOP
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:01 PM
Nov 2020

sure has seized on that segment of society.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
16. WHAT does "republican" mean - people who voted that way? registered card carrying repubs? people
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

who self identify as republican vs something else?

52% of those could be a very small number - or not, depending on how the word is defined.

Who needs this vague claptrap - just more noise to confuse people

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
25. Agree, and i don't believe all 1/3 of the rabid base actually believe election was rigged.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:49 PM
Nov 2020

I don't trust this poll.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
24. They are mostly the same folk who believe Covid is fake or exaggerated, that Obama wasn't born in
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

America, that Trump was good for the economy, that climate change is a hoax, We need to educate them with ads telling them that these things Trump has told them is not supported by a shred of evidence. Give a date for Trump to come forward with that evidence. Offer Trump millions of dollars for doing so. Then run ads showing Trump has no evidence, but he assumes some folks will be gullible enough to believe his lies.

Sudsy

(58 posts)
28. Just curious,
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

but how do you rig a national election in a country with more than 3,000 counties in 50 states in which 150 million people cast ballots?

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
31. Projecting this poll result to the total adult population that identifies as Republican...
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:46 PM
Nov 2020

leads to the conclusion that there are 41 million people in this country that totally divorced from reality, and are beyond all hope.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
33. Of course they think Biden rigged the election.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:59 PM
Nov 2020

They think that's the only way an election can be won. More projection.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
41. Wonder why I'm supposed to care? I don't care if 90% of those idiots belive him...
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:24 PM
Nov 2020

He lost, get over it I think is the way it's usually put to Democrats when they lose an election.

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