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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,712 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:00 PM Nov 2020

OUCH! Trump Legal Team's Supposed Evidence of Fraud is From the WRONG STATE

Source: Power Line blog, via Mediaite and Joe.My.God.

OUCH! Trump Legal Team’s Supposed Evidence of Fraud is From the WRONG STATE

By Charlie Nash Nov 20th, 2020, 11:12 am

President Donald Trump’s lawyers have seemingly confused Michigan with Minnesota in an affidavit attempting to prove 2020 election fraud.

In their effort to demonstrate voter irregularities in the state of Michigan — which Trump was projected to have lost to Joe Biden — Trump’s lawyers appeared to mistake Michigan’s abbreviation “MI” for Minnesota.

{snip}

On his Power Line blog, Thursday, John Hinderaker pointed out the major error.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php

“Here’s the problem: the townships and precincts listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 of the affidavit are not in Michigan. They are in Minnesota,” Hinderaker declared. “Monticello, Albertville, Lake Lillian, Houston, Brownsville, Runeberg, Wolf Lake, Height of Land, Detroit Lakes, Frazee, Kandiyohi–these are all towns in Minnesota.”

{snip}

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/ouch-trump-legal-teams-supposed-evidence-of-fraud-is-from-the-wrong-state/



Hat tip, David Farhenthold

The Fyre Festival of the legal world, Day 17.
Trump lawyers confuse Michigan with Minnesota.




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And it's at Joe.My.God. and everywhere else.

Trump Lawyer Listed MN Towns In MI “Fraud” Affidavit
November 20, 2020

https://www.joemygod.com/2020/11/trump-lawyer-listed-mn-towns-in-mi-fraud-affidavit/
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OUCH! Trump Legal Team's Supposed Evidence of Fraud is From the WRONG STATE (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 OP
🤪 underpants Nov 2020 #1
But of course, to the RWNJs if it is happening in one state it is happening in others... Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #2
trump gang goes so far beyond 'the gang that couldn't shoot straight' empedocles Nov 2020 #3
They're close enough dalton99a Nov 2020 #4
No wonder tRump team got it wrong. They watch Hannity, where Canada invaded Michigan Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #23
Oh no! SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #33
Okay, I want to move to Michigan if Canada has plans to invade. Chellee Nov 2020 #34
Shish, didn't even have to use a sharpie. nt reACTIONary Nov 2020 #37
Not even up to Amateur Hour standards Blue Owl Nov 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author apnu Nov 2020 #6
these guys make the Keystone Cops look like... dhill926 Nov 2020 #7
Beauty!!! ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #36
These lawyers should be penallized, and Rudy should be disbarred Escurumbele Nov 2020 #8
Trump is getting his money's worth, legally. TeamPooka Nov 2020 #9
Who did they bribe to pass the BAR exam ? CentralMass Nov 2020 #10
They are both northern states starting with Mi Midnightwalk Nov 2020 #11
This is interesting but I think you should delete the right wing source pnwmom Nov 2020 #12
I understand your concern, but: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 #21
When you post a rightwing source, you give credit to its false claims also pnwmom Nov 2020 #22
this llashram Nov 2020 #31
Yeah, well, it's understandable. We both are in The Great White North & start with the letters "Mi" catbyte Nov 2020 #13
Republicans: Quality is the farthest thing from Job One JHB Nov 2020 #14
The same guy who hired these lawyers is the same guy who just appointed hundreds of Federal Judges Midnight Writer Nov 2020 #15
At least Trump proved he won WYsconsin. CaptYossarian Nov 2020 #16
Does this just buy them more time to re-file..... Chakaconcarne Nov 2020 #17
The clock is running out. Wasting time on purpose is foolish. In fact, the entire enterprise is ... marble falls Nov 2020 #28
Blue states all conspire among each other to go blue IronLionZion Nov 2020 #18
The gang that couldn't shoot straight. n/t tinymontgomery Nov 2020 #19
Would using false evidence be fraud or perjury? keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #20
Maybe, if it's intentional. This is incompetence. marble falls Nov 2020 #27
I second that ⤵️ sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #24
it's almost as if it doesn't matter how stupid they are. barbtries Nov 2020 #25
"the gang that couldn't sue straight." marble falls Nov 2020 #26
Well to be fair, Wisconsinites do look a lot like Michiganders. marble falls Nov 2020 #29
They are an embarrassment to our nation. Marie Marie Nov 2020 #30
Ha ha heh ha ha heh ha...ohhh, I've got to catch my breath!! Ha ha heh...whooo, so much for the ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #32
Holy Failed Geography, Batshit insane! Cha Nov 2020 #35
Only the best people.... BHDem53 Nov 2020 #38
Giuliani's Rant About Suspicious Voting Was Based On A Massive Error A Trump campaign lawsuit master riversedge Nov 2020 #39
K&R ck4829 Nov 2020 #40

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. But of course, to the RWNJs if it is happening in one state it is happening in others...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:02 PM
Nov 2020

that is how the world wide liberal conspiracy works.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. trump gang goes so far beyond 'the gang that couldn't shoot straight'
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

They will fuel judicial conferences, trial lawyers, law school professors with jokes for ages to come.

Chellee

(2,104 posts)
34. Okay, I want to move to Michigan if Canada has plans to invade.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:16 PM
Nov 2020

I mean, all the citizens of the newly formed Province of Michigan would be automatic citizens of Canada, right?

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Escurumbele

(3,407 posts)
8. These lawyers should be penallized, and Rudy should be disbarred
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:31 PM
Nov 2020

Why would the legal community want to have someone like Rudy in their lists as an active lawyer? He is a disgrace making the legal profession look horrible, not that it needs any help from Rudy, but Rudy is out there where no lawyer has gone before.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
11. They are both northern states starting with Mi
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

Maybe they just have to not ask for less than strict scrutiny?

Yeah that’d do it.

/sarcasm

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
12. This is interesting but I think you should delete the right wing source
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020

and just leave the two others.

Powerline is probably right about the error, but Mediaite would be a better source to have here.

Not a source that falsely says:

"There is circumstantial evidence of more than a normal amount of voter fraud in this year’s election, but Trump’s lawyers have not yet presented most of the evidence" and -- about the Republican lawyers pushing these claims: "I hope their claims turn out to be well-founded and provable."

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,712 posts)
21. I understand your concern, but:
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 04:22 PM
Nov 2020

I give credit to the person who did the work or made the discovery. Power Line did the work. They get the credit.

You will never see me use the odious Rawstory as a "source."

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
22. When you post a rightwing source, you give credit to its false claims also
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 04:36 PM
Nov 2020

Like its false claim that there has been more than the usual amount of fraud in this election.

And you help condition some readers into trusting it as a source. Just because they were right in this particular case doesn't mean they're a source people should rely on.

catbyte

(34,509 posts)
13. Yeah, well, it's understandable. We both are in The Great White North & start with the letters "Mi"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:48 PM
Nov 2020

jfc. The incompetence and/or gaslighting is mind-boggling.

Midnight Writer

(21,830 posts)
15. The same guy who hired these lawyers is the same guy who just appointed hundreds of Federal Judges
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

The damage he does to this country will long outlive him.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
16. At least Trump proved he won WYsconsin.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:12 PM
Nov 2020

These are the same morons who don't know Puerto Ricans (PA?) are Americans.

marble falls

(57,423 posts)
28. The clock is running out. Wasting time on purpose is foolish. In fact, the entire enterprise is ...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

... foolish. That's how you can tell they're spending other people's money.

IronLionZion

(45,614 posts)
18. Blue states all conspire among each other to go blue
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:46 PM
Nov 2020

the proof is that the University of Michigan's slogan is M go Blue. So that also makes other M states go blue like Minnesota. That's absolute evidence of deep state conspiracy.



barbtries

(28,817 posts)
25. it's almost as if it doesn't matter how stupid they are.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

they just catapult the propaganda and massive numbers of people believe it. no matter how absurd, stupid, false, it does not matter.

who the fuck are these people?!

dammit. i need a klonopin and to tune out today.

SWBTATTReg

(22,191 posts)
32. Ha ha heh ha ha heh ha...ohhh, I've got to catch my breath!! Ha ha heh...whooo, so much for the ...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:47 PM
Nov 2020

vaunted legal team of trump's, eh? This leaves a good taste in one's mouth, knowing that these idiots are in charge of government until Jan. 2021.

riversedge

(70,407 posts)
39. Giuliani's Rant About Suspicious Voting Was Based On A Massive Error A Trump campaign lawsuit master
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:45 AM
Nov 2020



POLITICS 11/20/2020 07:58 pm ET
Giuliani’s Rant About Suspicious Voting Was Based On A Massive Error
A Trump campaign lawsuit mastermind mixed numbers from Michigan and Minnesota to come up with fake overvote percentages.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/giuliani-michigan-minnesota-voter-fraud-mistake_n_5fb84237c5b680f7c38baebc?locale=en-US&messages=undefined&utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation




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By Mary Papenfuss

Rudy Giuliani’s epic rant in his latest wild news conference about suspicious voting in Michigan was based on a glaring mistake: President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer was complaining about vote counts in Minnesota districts, not in Michigan.

That obliterated Giuliani’s claims Thursday of discrepancies in district populations and suspiciously large voter turnouts. The figures mangled overvote percentages by comparing the number of expected district votes in one state to the populations of completely unrelated districts in another state.

“In Michigan and Wisconsin, we have overvotes in numerous precincts of 150%, 200% and 300%,” Giuliani gloated in one of his imagined “gotcha” moments.

The man in charge of Trump’s assault on election results also argued that there were more votes than voters in some districts — again, because he confused the states.

The erroneous numbers used by Giuliani and others on the legal team challenging presidential election results were based on an affidavit submitted — and already thrown out by one court — by self-proclaimed election fraud expert and failed Texas congressional candidate, Russ Ramsland, the Powerline blog first reported Thursday.
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