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Judi Lynn

(160,663 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:56 AM Nov 2020

Family of dead Publix worker files lawsuit alleging grocery chain stopped him from wearing a mask

Source: Washington Post

By
Meryl Kornfield
November 24, 2020 at 7:28 p.m. CST

When Florida-based grocery chain Publix began requiring employees to wear masks in late April, it was too late for deli worker Gerardo Gutierrez.

By then, the 70-year-old father of four was already infected with the coronavirus and would die alone in a hospital eight days later. His family and friends said their goodbyes over Zoom.

In March, as the virus was spreading rapidly across the country, Gutierrez asked his employer whether he could wear a face covering at his South Beach store, but he was denied, alleges a lawsuit his daughter filed Monday in a Miami court on his behalf.

At least 131 grocery workers have died of covid-19, the disease the virus causes, according to the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, which represents 900,000 grocery employees. The actual death toll is probably much higher because the group does not represent all chains, and firms do not always publicly share when workers succumb to the virus.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/24/publix-covid-death-lawsuit/





Gerardo Gutierrez.
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Family of dead Publix worker files lawsuit alleging grocery chain stopped him from wearing a mask (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2020 OP
I know they don't enforce wearing a mask Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #1
How BACKWARDS. ;-( elleng Nov 2020 #2
About time. I hope they win a bundle. A slew of wrongful death suits may be what it takes Liberty Belle Nov 2020 #3
If they get a sympathetic jury they might win but the problem is cstanleytech Nov 2020 #14
Terribly sad. littlemissmartypants Nov 2020 #4
This fact has been at the core of the intransigence from the get-go. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #12
Yep. Hugin Nov 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Nov 2020 #15
I don't understand this at all, I fail to see the relevance and don't see how it creates a remedy littlemissmartypants Nov 2020 #23
Ya wrong thread. Was posting from my phone earlier. cstanleytech Nov 2020 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #17
Dems don't want you to die for a paycheck. FM123 Nov 2020 #19
Immunity For Murdering Their Workers DanieRains Nov 2020 #5
Well then Congress better get its act together ASAP quakerboy Nov 2020 #6
Hope that they succeed Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #7
The defense will argue that he got it elsewhere and nobody can prove he contracted it at work. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #8
That Was The Defense Stance... ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #18
Ya but with the virus so wide spread across the country it will probably be harder to get cstanleytech Nov 2020 #20
Totally Agree ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #22
these are the lawsuits that McConnell and GOP want to block with a liability shield law of all beachbumbob Nov 2020 #9
Publix executives - so evil Blues Heron Nov 2020 #10
I've been shopping at Publix for years. Calista241 Nov 2020 #16
That is now but he contracted the virus before they allowed the employees to wear them. cstanleytech Nov 2020 #21
There will be Covid-related lawsuits all over the place FakeNoose Nov 2020 #24
K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #26

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
1. I know they don't enforce wearing a mask
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:01 AM
Nov 2020

And employees are not allowed to ask customers to wear one. Employees are supposed to wear a mask but enforcement is spotty.

elleng

(131,372 posts)
2. How BACKWARDS. ;-(
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:11 AM
Nov 2020

Quite the opposite here, southern MD, masks been required for months, and EVERYONE wears them. No problems with that (as far as I can see.)

Liberty Belle

(9,539 posts)
3. About time. I hope they win a bundle. A slew of wrongful death suits may be what it takes
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:31 AM
Nov 2020

to get businesses to require masks of employees and customers in areas that does not mandate them.

How about suing Governors, too, in states where Governors ordered mayors not to impose mask mandates.

And maybe police departments that refused to enforce health rules in areas with mandates.

This nonsense has got to stop. Make the science-deniers pay for their stupid beliefs.

cstanleytech

(26,355 posts)
14. If they get a sympathetic jury they might win but the problem is
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:50 AM
Nov 2020

getting it to not be thrown out on appeal.

littlemissmartypants

(22,853 posts)
4. Terribly sad.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:51 AM
Nov 2020

And then there's this...


AOC Tweet


If you want to know why COVID relief is tied up in Congress, one key reason is that Republicans are demanding legal immunity for corporations so they can expose their workers to COVID without repercussions.

Dems don’t want you to die for a check. That’s what we’re fighting over.






RIP Gerardo Gutierrez


jaxexpat

(6,879 posts)
12. This fact has been at the core of the intransigence from the get-go.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:25 AM
Nov 2020

Pretty shameful or pretty lazy how the "liberal media" fails to mention this though they rarely fail to mention the "yet no agreement in congress on aid bill" story line. Implying that McConnell's unexplained delay is merely ideological and thus so must be Pelosi's stubborn refusal. The corporate owned GOP is getting a pass on this and the public's no wiser. I somehow sense a pattern.

A few words here and there, pretty soon you got a speech.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
13. Yep.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:37 AM
Nov 2020

The Murder Cult inaction in action. McConnell is almost single handedly responsible for this outrage.

This is what the hold-up in further COVID relief is all about and I'd sure like to see more wrongful death claims like this filed.

Where are all the attorneys?

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #4)

littlemissmartypants

(22,853 posts)
23. I don't understand this at all, I fail to see the relevance and don't see how it creates a remedy
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:53 PM
Nov 2020

given the circumstances. Are you sure you replied to the right post?

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #4)

FM123

(10,054 posts)
19. Dems don't want you to die for a paycheck.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 12:39 PM
Nov 2020

Repugs want to expose their folks to Covid, with no repercussions. This needs to be said every single day.

quakerboy

(13,923 posts)
6. Well then Congress better get its act together ASAP
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:18 AM
Nov 2020

I mean, lets make a deal for the least possible stimulus that makes sure companies cant be held liable for anything quick like, right?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. The defense will argue that he got it elsewhere and nobody can prove he contracted it at work.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:37 AM
Nov 2020

So sad.

I recall that Publix recently needed pressure before their employee health insurance would cover HIV meds that had previously been disqualified or omitted for some reason. They're not a very progressive of forward-thinking company.

ProfessorGAC

(65,392 posts)
11. That Was The Defense Stance...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:58 AM
Nov 2020

...in the coal miner & asbestos exposure suits. Didn't work then.
Admittedly, the proportion of those workers with severe respiratory system damage weakened the argument, but the counter claims were that they could have gotten those illnesses anywhere, that some were smokers, that family members had lung cancer or COPD & never worked there, etc.
That argument failed.
I hope it does here.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #11)

cstanleytech

(26,355 posts)
20. Ya but with the virus so wide spread across the country it will probably be harder to get
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:40 PM
Nov 2020

a judge to agree that he contracted the virus at work.

ProfessorGAC

(65,392 posts)
22. Totally Agree
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:58 PM
Nov 2020

That's why I mentioned the disproportion of cases in those industries.
It was far harder to deny the link.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
9. these are the lawsuits that McConnell and GOP want to block with a liability shield law of all
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:50 AM
Nov 2020

things COVID

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. I've been shopping at Publix for years.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:04 AM
Nov 2020

Everyone wears a mask, and I've seen people asked to leave for not wearing one. I even saw an employee asked to leave for forgetting her mask at home. So some of the comments in this thread contradict my experience.

cstanleytech

(26,355 posts)
21. That is now but he contracted the virus before they allowed the employees to wear them.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:43 PM
Nov 2020

That aside it will difficult for them to win because they will have to prove that he contracted it at work and not somewhere else and seeing as the virus is worldwide and out of control in the US it will be huge hurdle for them to overcome.

FakeNoose

(32,892 posts)
24. There will be Covid-related lawsuits all over the place
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:06 AM
Nov 2020

I'm sure the lawyers are salivating already. The insurance liability costs will probably put everyone out of business. That's what happens when we have so many people behaving so irresponsibly.


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