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riversedge

(79,213 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:32 PM Dec 2020

MAGA leaders call for the troops to keep Trump in office

Source: POLITICO



A growing call to invoke the Insurrection Act shows how hard-edged MAGA ideology has become in the wake of Trump’s election loss.
President Trump

12/18/2020 04:30 AM EST

An 1807 law invoked only in the most violent circumstances is now a rallying cry for the MAGA-ites most committed to the fantasy that Donald Trump will never leave office.

The law, the Insurrection Act, allows the president to deploy troops to suppress domestic uprisings — not to overturn elections.

But that hasn’t stopped the act from becoming a buzzword and cure-all for prominent MAGA figures like Sydney Powell and Lin Wood, two prominent pro-Trump attorneys leading efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and even one North Carolina state lawmaker. Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for lying to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law. The ideas have circulated in pro-Trump outlets and were being discussed over the weekend among the thousands of MAGA protesters who descended on state capitols and the Supreme Court to falsely claim Trump had won the election.

At its core, the Insurrection Act gives the president authority to send military and National Guard troops to quell local rebellions and violence, offering an exemption to prohibitions against using military personnel to enforce domestic laws. Historically, it has been used in moments of extreme national strife — the Civil War, the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, violent labor disputes, desegregation battles, rioting following Martin Luther King Jr.’s death.

Only once, however, has it been used in the wake of an election — and that was to stop a literal militia from seizing the Louisiana government on behalf of John McEnery, a former Confederate officer who had lost the 1872 governor’s race. ...................................................

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/18/trump-insurrection-act-presidency-447986






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The Insurrection Act has gained popularity among the far-right fringes, mainly as a way for President Donald Trump to solve all their problems. | Spencer Platt/Getty Images

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MAGA leaders call for the troops to keep Trump in office (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2020 OP
What the fuck is wrong with these people? McCamy Taylor Dec 2020 #1
That's exactly what I said after reading so many of them wishing for martial law Sapient Donkey Dec 2020 #3
Righties want martial law because they think they will be the marshalls enforcing the law. hadEnuf Dec 2020 #20
I don't think they realize under martail law their ass is in the house Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2020 #27
They are literally crazed! riversedge Dec 2020 #4
Depends on premise. If you believe election was stolen then you believe you defend Constitution. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #14
and they will believe anything mdbl Dec 2020 #32
Traitors to The Constitution and Democracy liberalmuse Dec 2020 #2
Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #22
Many thanks! Marthe48 Dec 2020 #26
As do I. dware Dec 2020 #29
There's a more basic reason for these antics. Archae Dec 2020 #5
Bring on the Civil War nwliberalkiwi Dec 2020 #6
An insurrection for one man amounts to insurrection for a dictatorship; it's not ancianita Dec 2020 #7
Welp, that definitely crosses the line to sedition. Jirel Dec 2020 #8
And some people wonder OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #24
Suddenly the redhats want someone else to do their fighting. Grokenstein Dec 2020 #9
Attempts by drumph and magats to keep the chaos going, MarcA Dec 2020 #10
As I said before liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2020 #11
This veteran fully agrees! SnowCritter Dec 2020 #12
Thank you for your service Marine! liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2020 #15
Thank you for your Service cheezmaka Dec 2020 #30
Yep, isn't he getting full retirement pay now? LeftInTX Dec 2020 #21
This 35 year veteran agrees also, dware Dec 2020 #23
I agree. n/t EndlessWire Dec 2020 #35
I guess this is why the Pentagon has cut off transition Firestorm49 Dec 2020 #13
I'm torn about even talking about this LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #16
Well OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #25
Yelling FIRE in a crowded theater is NOT OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The3rdTimeIsCharmed Dec 2020 #17
Looks like the term "Banana Republicans" wasn't so much of an exaggeration after all DFW Dec 2020 #18
Sounds like the Insurrection Act may need to be used against the MAGATs. hadEnuf Dec 2020 #19
This is not only unconstitutional - it's unworkable. BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #28
trump needs to be removed now! usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #31
These traitors would be perfectly content if this asshole was installed as a dictator. BlueStater Dec 2020 #33
On a related note... AntiFascist Dec 2020 #34

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
3. That's exactly what I said after reading so many of them wishing for martial law
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:41 PM
Dec 2020

I always thought at a minimum most Americans shared the idea that such things are bad even when it's "our guy" who would be doing it. I guess I was wrong. Frightens me that so many people can be lead down that path so easily.

hadEnuf

(3,511 posts)
20. Righties want martial law because they think they will be the marshalls enforcing the law.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 05:13 PM
Dec 2020

Most of these hardcore assholes have been just itching to prance around in a uniform with an armband while throwing seig heil salutes to their fuhrer.

They are not Americans.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,182 posts)
27. I don't think they realize under martail law their ass is in the house
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:57 PM
Dec 2020

at 6:00pm just like everyone else. I suspect they think only libs will be affected in their little fantasy.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
14. Depends on premise. If you believe election was stolen then you believe you defend Constitution. nt
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 02:48 PM
Dec 2020

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
2. Traitors to The Constitution and Democracy
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 PM
Dec 2020

I swore an oath to defend The Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Most military take that oath very seriously as I do.

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
5. There's a more basic reason for these antics.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 12:46 PM
Dec 2020

And it's being done by Trump all the way down the MAGA hierarchy.

Money.

These guys are fundraising hundreds of millions of dollars, from the suckers.

"Give us money so we can stop the steal!"

Yet where is that money going?
Hmmm...

nwliberalkiwi

(419 posts)
6. Bring on the Civil War
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:05 PM
Dec 2020

I say Bring on the Civil War!!! I like the line from "Lawrence of Arabia": NO PRISONERS!!!

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
7. An insurrection for one man amounts to insurrection for a dictatorship; it's not
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:11 PM
Dec 2020

in keeping with the Insurrection Act's original intent, because 60 courts have proven that an election outcome ("stop the steal&quot is not sufficient justification for invoking it.

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
8. Welp, that definitely crosses the line to sedition.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:12 PM
Dec 2020

No action at all taken on this in 3... 2... 1...

OldBaldy1701E

(10,004 posts)
24. And some people wonder
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 05:49 PM
Dec 2020

why so many of us are pretty disillusioned with the entire shitshow.

Grokenstein

(6,241 posts)
9. Suddenly the redhats want someone else to do their fighting.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:37 PM
Dec 2020

Typical of these bootlicking cowards.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
10. Attempts by drumph and magats to keep the chaos going,
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 01:51 PM
Dec 2020

stick it to the "liberals", act irresponsibly without consequences and of course $$$.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,057 posts)
11. As I said before
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 02:09 PM
Dec 2020

Sorry to repeat myself, but as a veteran, I take particular umbrage at the seditious activities of disgraced Lt. Gen. Flynn. When Trump is gone, Flynn should be called back to active duty to face court martial for sedition.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,057 posts)
15. Thank you for your service Marine!
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 02:51 PM
Dec 2020

Thanks brother. I was non-combat and spent my tour at Walter Reed in the mid-seventies and got to see, first hand, the human cost of Vietnam. However, the sacrifice of those men, and of the men and women serving since is denigrated by this traitor. It just boils my blood.

dware

(17,558 posts)
23. This 35 year veteran agrees also,
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 05:48 PM
Dec 2020

and I refuse to associate the title Gen. with Flynn, he lost that title and respect when he betrayed his oath and country.

Firestorm49

(4,493 posts)
13. I guess this is why the Pentagon has cut off transition
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

talks with the Biden administration.

Far fetched? I wouldn’t put anything out of the realm of possibilities with those who crave dictatorship.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,566 posts)
16. I'm torn about even talking about this
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 03:05 PM
Dec 2020

Or more specifically, the MSM talking about it.

Its almost like they read liberal sites, and see what they are the most afraid of, and then work towards that. With the idea that once it is in the public dialogue, it then becomes a possibility in the minds of people, whether for good or bad. Its like priming the public. Fits right into the "normalization" process they have been establishing for four years now.

It works. Say, like the media goes on about some gas price increase coming. When it does, because your mind has already grumblingly accepted it already because you have heard it every day, its not as much of a shock or abnormal.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,004 posts)
25. Well
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
Dec 2020

a fair number of more liberal minded folks stopped going to the MSM for their information a long while ago due to what you say, while the crazies and MAGAts have flocked in droves thanks to all the fire stoking. It is all about money after all. And, those same crazies and MAGAts love to toss their money at anything that they like, regardless of whether it is a news outlet or a pathetic, grifting excuse for a president.

 
17. Yelling FIRE in a crowded theater is NOT OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 04:06 PM
Dec 2020

When has it become legal to advocate violence? Is now, YELLING FIRE in a crowded theater OK ???? !!!! ??? !!!! ???


DFW

(59,694 posts)
18. Looks like the term "Banana Republicans" wasn't so much of an exaggeration after all
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 04:42 PM
Dec 2020

It is starting to sound like that is EXACTLY what they are.

¡En las rodillas delante del Jefe!

hadEnuf

(3,511 posts)
19. Sounds like the Insurrection Act may need to be used against the MAGATs.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 05:06 PM
Dec 2020

It's getting to the point where these seditionists need to be put down.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
28. This is not only unconstitutional - it's unworkable.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:17 PM
Dec 2020

For starters there would have to be enough willing troops to occupy every city, town, and hamlet in America, not to mention monitoring interstates, river transport, ports, and airports. I suppose that if we stopped every foreign engagement and brought 100% of our troops home - we might get close. But that assumes our military really wants to start shooting Americans for a living.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
33. These traitors would be perfectly content if this asshole was installed as a dictator.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:51 AM
Dec 2020

Disgusting.

AntiFascist

(13,718 posts)
34. On a related note...
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 05:34 PM
Dec 2020

it was once reported that Trump kept a copy of Hitler's "My New Order" at his bedside. (The sequel to "Mein Kampf" ) I guess it helped him fall asleep.

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

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