New COVID-19 strain spreads more quickly, UK medical chief says
Source: Reuters
HEALTHCARE & PHARMACEUTICALS
DECEMBER 19, 20208:19 AMUPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
By Reuters Staff
1 MIN READ
LONDON (Reuters) - A new strain of COVID-19 identified in the United Kingdom can spread more quickly and urgent work is under way to confirm that it does not cause a higher mortality rate, Englands Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty said on Saturday.
As announced on Monday, the UK has identified a new variant of Covid-19 through Public Health Englands genomic surveillance, Whitty said in a statement.
As a result of the rapid spread of the new variant, preliminary modelling data and rapidly rising incidence rates in the South East, the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG) now consider that the new strain can spread more quickly.
Reporting by Michael Holden, Editing by William Maclean
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-strain/new-covid-19-strain-spreads-more-quickly-uk-medical-chief-says-idUSKBN28T0KP?il=0
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)ananda
(28,876 posts)Sure looks like it anyway.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)but wasn't confirmed as verifiable, I think I recall.
This would be bad news indeed, but Mother Nature is striking back. Our population has so invaded every habitat as to unearth every last disease and virus. It's sort of a self-regulating mechanism. Maybe we're up against the limits.
Shermann
(7,428 posts)It might be anti-science to dismiss it merely because of similar earlier reports which didn't pan out.
I'm skeptical because it's not like we have an exact measurement of the R-naught value. So I don't see how they can accurately measure whether a new strain is more or less virulent.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)and they have identified that the new variations affect how it binds to a cell. The proportion if this variant has increased a lot in the South East of England, but not in the North West; and the overall numbers are going up fast in the SE, but not the NW.
catrose
(5,073 posts)And do the vaccines work against it?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Guessing so, as the vax targets the spikes on the organism. Not sure though.
Anyone know or have thoughts on this? Tyia!
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)covid uses (shaped like a crown) can't pernitrate the cell wall. The mutated virus would still have the same spike protien, so the vaccine should still work.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)That was my thought, too. Not a med professional, though.
Ty again!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)Just days after reaffirming the festive bubble plan and claiming it would be inhuman to cancel Christmas, the prime minister announced the creation of a new, stricter tier 4.
Only households living outside this area will now be allowed to mix for Christmas in England and then only for a single day, 25 December, with long-distance travel discouraged.
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The area affected includes all of London and much of the south and east of England, including Kent, most of Essex, most of Surrey, as well Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Hertfordshire, parts of Bedfordshire, Gosport, Portsmouth and Peterborough.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/19/pm-announces-tier-4-covid-curbs-and-curtails-christmas-mixing-in-england
That's my basic Christmas plans shut down. I'm in a tier 2 area, and was going to spend Christmas with my brother and family, in Buckinghamshire. Seems necessary, though.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)EarthFirst
(2,904 posts)Im sure the contingency has been raised; however does anyone know?
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)"He said there was "nothing to suggest" it caused worse disease or that vaccines would no longer work."
orangecrush
(19,617 posts)Hard to imagine a worse scenario.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)to the one that makes the vaccine ineffective.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)They can introduce the same mutation as in the virus into the mRNA sequence. Flu mutates very quickly and flu vaccines are different every year.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Important info:
There is a simple rule for understanding all "new strain" or "new variants": Ask whether the behaviour of the virus has changed.
This is crucial as viruses mutate all the time, it's just what they do. And so far we've been given the "scare" but not the "answer".
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)It has variance in areas with how the virus binds to cells and enters cells, he says, which caused concern in terms of how the virus looks.
There are three questions, he says:
Does the new variant transmit more readily?
Does it alter the course of the disease?
Does it alter the way the immune system responds to it?
Studies suggest the new variant has a substantial increase in transmissibility, Vallance says.
It is thought to have first occurred in mid-September in London or Kent, he says.
By mid-November, about 28% or so of cases in London and the south-east, and slightly lower in the east of England, were due to the new variant a rapid growth, he says.
By the 9 December, this was much higher, he says.
In London, more than 60% of new cases were the new variant, he says, meaning it not only moves fast but is becoming the dominant variant in terms of transmission.
There is no evidence at the moment to suggest the new variant causes more severe disease, Vallance says.
Nothing has been seen so far to suggest it alters the immune response and the vaccine response should be adequate for this virus, he adds.
Transmission is the big change with this strain, he says, meaning we need to stick to reducing our contact and reducing its ability to spread.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/dec/19/coronavirus-live-news-uk-deaths-climb-as-australia-battles-to-contain-covid-19-cluster?page=with:block-5fde2ae58f08da4121f48cd4#block-5fde2ae58f08da4121f48cd4
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)To a less dangerous form.
Now couldnt a 'more easily' spread type still be managed
By masking and social distancing.
I know people wont do it ...thats probably why...
roamer65
(36,747 posts)More infectious, but more like a cold will be its eventual route.
How long it will take is the $64k question.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)I usually watch the mortality rate as total deaths/total infections. Mortality has been steadily dropping even 3+ weeks after the predicted post-Thanksgiving "surge". It's now under 2% at about 1.8%. So it appears to be more contagious, but less deadly overall. CNN reported the current rate of new cases as 1 in 216, but that is .46%.
especially after widespread use of a vaccine.
Larissa
(790 posts)Our science nightmare already doesn't have a happy ending: 317,387 Americans dead. 192,901 new U.S. cases. I think I'll re-watch "Andromeda Strain," a film that terrified me when it was released. Now I know terror squared.
orangecrush
(19,617 posts)This is not going to end well.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)I do remember Fauci saying that this virus has a very slow mutation rate as compared to other viruses. That is a good thing.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)If they do, they will have to obtain the new encoding via mRNA and load it in to the vaccine.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)I hope that is the case! It could be a quick readjustment and a booster shot.
raccoon
(31,119 posts)Larissa
(790 posts)Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Sunday called it reprehensible and grossly negligent to allow UK travelers to fly into JFK Airport without being tested despite a contagious new mutation of the coronavirus shutting down London.
Right now, this variant in the UK is getting on a plane and flying to JFK, Cuomo said in a call to reporters Sunday of the mutation UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned could be 70 percent more transmittable.
Right now. Today, the governor stressed, calling for the feds to impose coronavirus testing of UK travelers at a minimum, if not an outright ban.
Literally six flights a day. And all it takes is one person, he said of the possible seed for the new strains spread.
So far, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Ireland and Bulgaria have all announced bans or strict restrictions on UK travelers since Johnson announced Londons lockdown on Saturday.
At least 120 countries also make sure travelers from the UK get a negative test for the coronavirus before letting them in, Cuomo said saying that Johnsons sudden lockdown so close to Christmas was a clear sign of how apparently dangerous the new mutation has proven.
We have about six flights a day coming in from the UK. And we have done absolutely nothing, said Cuomo, who also announced the state has another 9,957 COVID-19 cases and a positive rate of 5.05 percent.
(Full article at link above.)
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)And when governments get involved at this stage, I think the chances of over-reaction are comparable to the under-reactions we have seen over the past year. It is probably a wise move for Boris Johnson to go full red alert to play it safe, medically, but most especially, politically.