Trump Reportedly Fuming That Pence May Certify Loss to Biden, Considers It 'Ultimate Betrayal'

[riversedge]

Source: mediaite.com




By Ken Meyer Dec 22nd, 2020, 7:54 am


President Donald Trump is raging against his allies who’ve abandoned his long-shot efforts of overturning the election, according to a new report. Vice President Mike Pence is described as one of the targets of Trump’s outrage due to his imminent constitutional duty when the 2020 Electoral College results appear before Congress.

Axios’ Jonathan Swan reports that Trump is seething at numerous people close to him while he “increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results.” The article asserts that Trump believes Pence isn’t doing enough to fight for him, and he is especially preoccupied about what will Pence do on January 6 when he presides over Congress as they officially recognize the 2020 results.

“Pence’s role on Jan. 6 has begun to loom large in Trump’s mind, according to people who’ve discussed the matter with him,” Swan reports. “Trump would view Pence performing his constitutional duty — and validating the election result — as the ultimate betrayal.”

The report goes on with further accounts of Trump lashing out at officials who won’t indulge his pushes to overturn the votes.

“At this point,” according to Swan’s sources, “if you’re not in the ‘use the Department of Homeland Security or the military to impound voting machines’ camp, the president considers you weak and beneath contempt.”................................

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Fuming again. That is all trump does.

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[hlthe2b]

1. Pence can "weenie" out, if he wants, but then Chuck Grassley would have to preside

Neither can refuse to count the votes.

[exboyfil]

6. I would like to see that

Might give the old f___ker a stroke.

[Wicked Blue]

2. He might want to watch it

or he won't get pardoned

[onetexan]

8. good one

[Siwsan]

3. This might explain why Pence is planning that overseas trip, right after the certification

[MissMillie]

4. "Pence's role on Jan. 6 has begun to loom large in Trump's mind,..."

I'm frankly surprised that 45 is even aware of what Pence's role is.

[cheezmaka]

20. I'm suprised too...

As clueless as Trump is on even the role of President... I'm sure one of his flunky's probably told him

[Thekaspervote]

5. Hey dotard...doesn't matter if your lackey pence doesn't count the votes someone else will

[Rorey]

7. And THAT is why Pence is going on that trip.

He's going to bounce on out immediately after "betraying" OrangeLoser.

[Thunderbeast]

9. The boss better be nice....

Pence is the gatekeeper for invoking the 25th Ammendment.

[SWBTATTReg]

10. I hope that trump fumes his way into a heart attack...frankly, I could care less anymore about his

temper tantrums nor anything else. What a moron.

[BeyondGeography]

11. This, by way of example, will be sweet

[sandensea]

27. The kind of professionalism and decorum that Needy Amin is utterly incapable of

Which, sadly, is what many of his Chumpkins like best about him - but fuck them.

[RockRaven]

12. Question: in this conspiracy theory fever dream, what does impounding the voting machines

actually do? So you impound the voting machines... Then what happens? And how? What's the causal link?

[subterranean]

16. They could find something completely normal in the machines

that they can then twist to make it seem like "proof" of cheating, and many Trump supporters will believe it.

Even the act of impounding the machines casts a cloud of suspicion over them. People will think, "Well, if they impounded all those machines, there must be something wrong with them."

That's the goal, I think. To maintain the cloud of suspicion over the legitimacy of the election results.

[maxsolomon]

17. I think the theory is

They'll be able to show that the software undercounted/eliminated Trump votes, or added Biden votes, or something.

It's a little hazy.

[usaf-vet]

25. So then what do they do to reconcile all of the IT people who have been saying since 2000 that VOTES

...... HAVE BEEN FLIPPED to favor repugs. The smart republicans should recognize that by making the flipped votes argument FOREVER would prove that it is a possibility even when the Democrats make it.

I'm retired from IT and live in Wisconsin. Walker's Wisconsin where there were always "magic" votes that were just enough to give the repug's the win. Oh and let's not forget voter suppression in all it's forms to help the repug's counts.

[maxsolomon]

31. Yes, I remember years of DU posts about Voting Machines

and needing paper print outs to verify votes, and suspicions over Voting machine companies owned by Conservatives, etc. They won't reconcile that conundrum; they need blunt propaganda to de-legitimize Biden's term.

I don't know what to say about it any more. I know we didn't whine like toddlers in 2016; we sucked it up and conceded defeat.

[yellowdogintexas]

58. we took care of that little issue here.

The actual machine for selection is a digital touch screen. You can page back and forth through it as many times as you need to. Each race is on its own page. The font can be enlarged.

When you decide you are finished, you push the "print" button and your ballot prints out. If you see an error, the Election Judge will help you with a new ballot/

So votes aren't flipping anywhere, because you have to touch the screen to choose.
This machine has no memory of your selections. The next voter will be given an access code to bring up their specific ballot.

Once the ballot is printed, the voter deposits it into the scanner. The scanner reads the bar code generated by the vote selection machine and counts the selections.

Every vote has a paper back up.
The only machine that stores any information is the scanner. At the end of the day, we run tally tapes which have the totals for each race . A set goes to the county elections office and a set goes home with the lead judge. The scanning equipment goes with the ballots to the county elections office.

I think the "check up " of the machines will reveal laughable information - as in none

[maxsolomon]

61. Still not ready to hand them over to the post-Barr Trump DOJ

My trust level is not high.

[jalan48]

21. Trump and Co will claim the machine shows fraud. The right wing media will pick up the story and

broadcast it 24/7. The truth won't matter.

[orangecrush]

65. Exactly.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. The problem with the short-attention span "base"

is that the original "order", "demand" and "narrative", was that the "libs were/would be using the 'fraudulent' mail-in/absentee ballots", so the "patriotic GOP" should vote "in person" (on a machine) and "not be afraid of the hoax COVID-19", because the machines were solid!!!11!!!!!

Now after losing dozens and dozens of mail-in/absentee ballot lawsuits, they have switched tactics to stay in the news cycle. But as most states reported, Republicans used the machines far more than Democrats, so trying to do something to any machine would essentially throw out their own GOP votes... unless they are thinking that the machine votes should have all been "100% for the GOP" and any "Biden" vote was falsely flipped to him.

I noted in another thread that they have been trying to do this in Georgia ahead of their runoff, and only in the specific counties where the majority of votes for Biden occurred.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. He is one sick fk

He's reached an impasse with reality. He has always bent the world to suit himself. If you've ever had one of those in your life, you know what it's like. And the way things turn out.

[andym]

14. Will Trump say "Et Tu, Pencee"

Probably not-- for an Ivy League college grad, Trump learned surprisingly little.

[Marcuse]

50. Probably closer to, though less eloquent than:

[Mike Nelson]

15. Hmm...

... probably can't happen, but I'd like to see Pence refuse and have the duty delegated to another person. Then, Pence can be asked to resign for not following the Constitution. He can get the Spiro T Agnew award for a Profile in Courage.

[dalton99a]

18. Pence will chicken out and let someone else announce the result

[OneBlueSky]

19. "Ultimate betrayal?" . . . nah . . . not even close . . . the REAL ultimate betrayal (to Trump) . .

would be invoking the 25th Amendment and declaring Trump unfit to continue "serving" as president . . . that's when we might actually see his head explode -- when he's booted for "mental incapacity" and Pence takes over the Oval Office . . . and if this keeps going in the direction it's now heading, this may become the actual final step to halt Trump's attempted coup . . .

do stay tuned . . .

[generalbetrayus]

22. Pence certifies loss, Benedict Donald won't pardon Pence,

Pence won't pardon Donald, Donald pardons self, Supreme Court says "WTF, who are you trying to kid", Donald gets a plane ride to Florence Supermax. I can dream, can't I?

[usaf-vet]

28. YES YES YES I love the way you think. From your lips to God's ears whispered back to Pence ears.

The perfect circle.

[jmowreader]

67. I wouldn't put him in Supermax

I would put him in a pleasant 3-bedroom tract house in a blue state that gets really cold. His housemates will be guards from the Bureau of Prisons. He can be escorted to his job at Walmart (not as a greeter, but as a shelf stocker on the night shift) and can be barred from playing golf, tweeting, wearing suits, wearing that cheap-ass makeup he likes, buying gold spray paint, eating fast food or traveling. Taking away all the trappings of his former life will hurt him as badly as being thrown in prison would.

[EndlessWire]

23. Trump turns on everyone.

I don't know what psychopathology this represents, but we have watched him for four years turn on everyone. Why would anyone think that he would be safe?

Plus, he's running out of time to punish Pence for whatever imagined slight he gave him. So, this isn't surprising. He has new favorites, and gosh, one of them is a girl! So, no wonder at this.

He turned on his wives, too, but we can't tell the exact moment Melania got the treatment. She's probably so happy the nightmare is ending for her, too.

[Mr.Bill]

24. That's good, Donald.

Piss off the guy you need to pardon you on January 19th when you resign.

[sandensea]

26. Cue the Hitler rant videos...

[They_Live]

29. He not only fumes,

he also "lashes out". Watch for it!

[MineralMan]

30. "The Most Unkindest Cut of All"

Pence has no vote in the matter, actually. He will just be there to preside over the joint session as the official "President of the Senate."

He plays no role, though, in the counting of the electoral votes, nor in any dispute that arises from the floor.

Trump just hates the idea of it all, and now counts Pence as a traitor.

Say goodbye to your pardon, Donnie. Better make nice to Pence.

[LiberalLovinLug]

34. Ha ha. Just imagine if Trump resigns for Pence to pardon him...

And Pence suddenly has an epiphany. After praying and talking with Mother, (but mostly fuming at being dissed by Trump after he licked his little boots for 4 years), he decides NOT to issue the pardon.

I know it won't happen, but damn. Love to be a fly on Pence's head if that did happen

[Pantagruel]

39. Your Pence pardons Trump theory

will fail IMHO because it assumes loyalty . Trump doesn't engender loyalty absent a gun to enforce it. For a brief shining moment, "President for a day" Pence would be holding the gun.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

32. Fume away, you Orange Pus.....

For that is the role of the VP of either party to validate and recognize that the people have spoken during an election.

It is in the Constitution that this procedure take place.

Go suck an egg, Donnie. You lost.

[kairos12]

35. Pence may stand behind mother and get her to do it.

[cab67]

36. PLEASE tell me there's video of one of his outbursts.

[CaptYossarian]

37. Yes Virginia, there is a Constitution.

'Tis the season.

'"The man who would be king" should have written his own constitution. Mitch would have allowed it. Trump could have abolished the equal branches of government, made the Supreme Court his way of suing his opponents or jailing them (just as the AG replaced Michael Cohen as fixer), and filled DC with Yes Men, so the Mad Rapist of Pennsylvania Avenue could never be the LOSER that he is today.

His being denied the Throne began with the Dems taking the House in 2018. It seemed big at the time and has gotten bigger with each passing day. About a year ago, it was all about the Impeachment. When the Senate fellated him, I was one of many who never thought we'd be rid of this genocidal maniac.

[C Moon]

38. It appears everyone is trying to salvage what little is left of their political careers.

Actually, I'm probably wrong: the GOP will continue to worship people like Trump, as long as there is a way to make money from it.

[mdbl]

40. WTF is wrong with Trump?

Doesn't he know all he has to do is fire him like everyone else he's fired. Geeez.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. YOU betrayed US you orange MF! Say hi to Vlad when you re-locate, traitor. n/t

[VA_Jill]

42. As my dad used to say

and no doubt would if he were here, "My heart just BLEEDS for him!" (in the most sarcastic tone possible)

[Hekate]

43. Looks like that new Lincoln Project ad got right into Trump's head

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214746103

[cstanleytech]

44. The blockhead thinks Pence will throw his body upon the altar of Trump and refuse to do his

Constitutional duty? I mean sure Pence can try but it would be stupid as hell not to mention risky from a legal standpoint for Pence to put himself on the line like that.

[DownriverDem]

45. Unbelievable

what trump is leaving behind. His view of how he should fight to stay in power is total madness. trump is acting as a madman. Why is he allowed to stay in office? trump badly needs an intervention by perhaps his kids.

[Mr.Bill]

46. I can see a scenario where Trump pardons his kids

and no one else. I mean he really doesn't give a fuck about anyone else and has never returned the loyalty he demands.

[BadgerKid]

47. Thinking on the 25A

How many cabinet members are genuflecting to DT these days? We just need Pence and a majority of the cabinet.

[oldsoftie]

48. I'd be willing to bet that at this point, Pence doesnt give a shit WHAT trump thinks.

They rarely campaigned together & havent done it at all in GA.

And I dont think he will run in '24 either.

[bucolic_frolic]

49. So Trump can't distinguish between Pence's job, and Pence's loyalty

Trump is a bit of a simpleton

[Miigwech]

51. Maybe if he fumes enough ...

he can implode himself? Self implodation?

[myohmy2]

52. pence...

...is not totally insane...

...he has to think of his future run for dog-catcher in Columbus...

[BigDemVoter]

53. This probably gives away my age. . . .

But one of my friend's sons was talking about Pence and referred to him as a "choad." My friends and I didn't even know what that meant and had to look it up online. . . .

Another friend asked her daughter if SHE knew what a choad was. . . . Her response? "Doesn't everybody?" I guess not!



But in ANY case, Pence IS a choad. . . .

[flibbitygiblets]

59. Spanky's the choad, according to Stormy anyway. Oh, and ew.

FYI, www.urbandictionary.com has all you need to decipher pesky trending terminology

[niyad]

54. Quit fuming and start stroking out, you murderin, orange traitor. Do the correct thing for once in

your misbegotten life.

[badboy67]

55. Don The Con, "Fumer-In-Chief"

[ClusterFreak]

56. Donnie, how many times do you need it repeated before it sinks into that thick skull of yours...

You are President (thankfully not for much longer) of the United States.

Not C.E.O. of a corporation.

The people who work for you in your capacity as POTUS, do not owe you their loyalty.

They owe it to the Constitution, which they swore an oath to "protect and defend".

Ya you swore an oath like that yourself, although it is an oath tailor-made for Presidents.

Sadly, however, you have spent your four year term betraying your solemn oath.

One might say, you have shat all over the Constitution for the last four years.

Which is one reason why your ass is about to get kicked to the proverbial curb in about four weeks.

One reason, one of a multitude.

Capiche yet?

p.s. you suck

p.p.s. fuck off

[BlueWavePsych]

57. BWAHAHAHAHAHA

[bigworld]

60. Trump would -love- to fire Pence and try to appoint Ivanka

as first woman vice president.

[Billytee]

62. What would be better...

is the look on Pres. "Shit-for-brains" face when he realizes Pence will oppose him in 2024, that is if Stump lives that long after all the greasy chicken he's been eating....looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.
Why else would Pence put up with all Stump's shit for four years?

[usajumpedtheshark]

63. Running on fumes and a couple of damaged brain cells, drumpf continues to ignore the very real

damage that covid is causing in order to continue his tantrum.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

64. Trump is a pathetic, graceless little thug

who belongs in prison.

[Cha]

66. Fume Away, ASSFACE