House Republicans block Democrats' effort to advance $2,000 stimulus checks pushed by Trump

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Washington Post

House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many in the Republican party. House Democratic leadership attempted to advance the measure by “unanimous consent" but the effort was blocked by Republican leadership.

Trump has hinted he will not sign a $900 billion emergency economic relief package into law unless these larger stimulus payments are approved. Many Democrats also support the higher payments, while most Republicans do not. But Trump’s late-stage intervention now puts the entire package in jeopardy, and the government will shut down on Tuesday if there is not a resolution.

House Democrats also blocked a measure sought by Republicans to reevaluate U.S. spending on foreign aid, something Trump also pushed for earlier this week. “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”

The $900 billion stimulus package approved by Congress included $600 direct payment checks, a level that Trump’s top economic adviser, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, had proposed earlier this month. Trump on Tuesday said these checks were not big enough. In an effort to counter Pelosi’s move, House Republicans attempted to pass a request to revisit the foreign aid portion of the government funding package, also through unanimous consent. This is also in line with demands that Trump surfaced for the first time Tuesday night, one day after the large spending package was approved by Congress. It is unclear what will lawmakers - or Trump - will do next after the failed procedural moves, and there are major consequences for both the economy and the government.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

[samplegirl]

1. Imagine that!

[LuvNewcastle]

2. They just need to override the fucking veto like he doesn't matter.

They have the votes. Just get it over with. They can pass another relief bill after Biden gets in office.

[sweetloukillbot]

7. I believ he can pocket it and kill it

Although I've seen conflicting numbers for the timeline.

[paleotn]

17. Only if Congress officially adjourns. Which they won't...

It's a rarity in the last decade and a half for Congress to officially adjourn.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. They actually have to "Adjourn" before the swearing in of the new Congress on January 4, 2021

although perhaps they could attempt to use the technicality of them having an "unwritten rule" of staving off Recess Appointments by always having "Pro-forma sessions" (gaveling in every 3 days) rather than adjourning. But I don't know how that applies for the changeover to a new Congressional session (which in this case would be the change from the 116th Congress to the 117th Congress).

[paleotn]

43. I would assume the same method used during the Obama years....

Mitch was bound and determined there would be not recess appointments.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Well early on, Obama lost a SCOTUS case regarding the meaning of a "Pro-forma" session

so if anything, he was able to get it codified that the SCOTUS allows Congress to "make its own rules". However I'm not sure how that might be interpreted for the pocket veto (which is actually noted in the Constitution as an automatic "veto" under specific circumstances).

I think previous Congresses actually adjourned when a pocket veto occured. I also think I read the last pocket veto during a lame duck session was one done by Bill Clinton (other ones were done during the year when Congress was "adjourning" for a long break, etc.).

[sweetloukillbot]

22. This Congress ends on 1/3

It's a matter of how the dates are counted towards his 10-day time frame for returning the bill.

[COL Mustard]

25. Not If They Override

But they have to do something by 11:59 am on Jan. 3, or there is a new Congress and everything starts over.

I can't fathom what their thought processes are on this. We (Fed Gov) will shut down on Monday without an appropriation, and while I'd love some unplanned time off, I know that there is serious damage that a shutdown would do to a lot lot lot of people.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. He hasn't "officially" vetoed it

In fact, I don't think he has even received the actual "enrolled" (final - completed/corrected/printed) version of it yet. Which means if he sits on it even after receiving it and nothing else is done between now and January 3rd, 2021, then it dies and the government shuts down along with it due to the "pocket veto" provision (automatic veto of a bill with no action and within 10 days of a Congressional adjournment).

[Bengus81]

37. Unless the two seats in Georgia go to Dems another relief bill will never happen...........

[myohmy2]

3. I thought...

...we had the votes and Nancy controls the calendar...

...no?

...

[d_b]

4. Meh.

It’s no ‘defund the police’

[JohnnyRingo]

5. Playing politics with a man who doesn't know the game.

Nancy Pelosi has always run circles around Donald Trump in a game that he barely understands let alone is successful at. So far, nothing has happened here that wasn't predicted beforehand. Dems are two steps ahead at all times.

[COL Mustard]

27. And Yet The MAGATs Think DJT Is The One Playing 25-D Chess

They really don't understand, the poor dears. As we would say in the South, bless their pea-picking' hearts.

[oldsoftie]

34. Yes, I've been waiting for MONTHS for him to spring his "trap" I keep hearing about.

Its all i've heard from some of the most rabid trumpers; his "plan" was working perfectly. before the election he was going to bust "the democrats" for anything under the sun you can think of.
NOW, its "he's waiting till Jan 6th"

And as i've said before, these are well educated people. Honestly.

[LonePirate]

6. It was all a gimmick anyway when Pelosi pushed it under unanimous consent rather than one item bill.

She knew it would never pass when she proposed the unanimous consent method. If she was truly serious about the measure, she would push a single item bill only dealing with a $2,000 stimulus and nothing else and then making the Republicans go on record with opposing it.

We need fewer meaningless stunts from our House leadership and more action. Even if the bill were likely to die in the Senate, the House should still pass a bill and put Republicans on the defensive.

[sweetloukillbot]

9. Or maybe, just maybe, we need Republicans to vote for them

And not bash our leadership who just effectively boxed them in.

[PoliticAverse]

10. "Democrats will now move to pass the bill on the floor with a full up-or-down vote on December 28,

Democrats will now move to pass the bill on the floor with a full up-or-down vote on December 28, Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced.

From: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/house-vote-stimulus-checks-government/index.html

[LonePirate]

11. Thank you for posting/sharing that news.

[stopbush]

12. You underestimate Pelosi. Watch and learn.

[christx30]

15. Maybe we need a version that is just the checks

and not the irrelevant crap like making streaming a felony, and foreign aid.
No reason the bill needs to be 5000+ pages. A 2 page bill would be just fine.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Remember that the entire federal government's appropriations are ALSO bundled with the stimulus

THAT is why it is something like 5,600 pages. They do this all the time - try to combine bills that were generally "agreed to" separately (as noted in the bill name "Consolidated Appropriations...." and/or they will use terms like "Omnibus" ) so they could have "one vote" and be done with both ("killing 2 birds with 1 stone) and go home.

[The Mouth]

41. True, but

Strip that crap out and do it later.
Venezuela, Israel, the Smithsonian, streaming- that shit ain't urgent. Sure it was agreed to at some point, but for now, fuck everything except getting money into the hands of individual citizens and keeping the unemployment and small business protection going.

I know there are teary-eyed doogooders who can make a great case for why we need to support this or that thing in some other country, but strip that garbage OUT and get checks and loans to people.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. The "problem" with Congress

and every elected office is $$$$$$.

But note that there are 2 separate bills that have been combined for the purpose of the simplicity of only needing one final vote that would cover BOTH.

This is the time of year when "earmarks" ("pork" ) get handed out in exchange for votes and that is what happened here (as it does every year) - notably in the federal appropriations "Omnibus" or "Minibus" bills. I remember when Jeff Flake was still in the House and would participate in every budget/appropriation debate to read out examples of what was included in these types of bills. This is so that they can go back to the constituents to tell them what THEIR "taxpayer money" will be paying for. My own Congressman sent out an email alerting to the things that were included in the stimulus, for example, right after it was passed by both chambers.

The funding of many of those things you mention AREN'T associated with the stimulus. They are a part of the federal appropriations. Don't forget that the ass let the government shut down 2 years ago for 35 fucking days because of the cluelessness of wanting money for a fucking wall.

All one needs to do is watch one of the CSPANs (often CSPAN3 will show the markups) to see what goes on with that.

[ahoysrcsm]

47. "Strip that out" as you state, and the Government is shut down.

Thank you "The Mouth" for calling for a Government shutdown. I hope your statement is in ignorance.

[The Mouth]

50. Ignorance is thinking this should be one bill

Blame whatever stupid asshole combined them, because we don't need to be spending money on new museums and other governments right now.

Yes, strip everything out that doesn't relate to getting relief into citizen's hands, funding the actual functions of government (and not pork) and paying the soldiers and sailors. deal with the other crap that isn't life and death later.

"Ignorance" is thinking this should be in an urgent, must pass NOW bill and whining when it causes average taxpayers to think you are a dolt.

From The Hill, FWIW


So where is the rest of the $1.4 trillion going?

Glad you asked.

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Exhibit B: Funds for "Resource Study of Springfield (Illinois) Race Riot." That riot occurred in (checks notes) 1908.

Exhibit C: "Statement Of Policy Regarding The Succession Or Reincarnation Of The Dalai Lama." We'll just leave that one there.


Exhibit D: There's actually a commission tasked with educating “consumers about the dangers associated with using or storing portable fuel containers for flammable liquids near an open flame."

Exhibit E: Another $40 million will be allocated "for the necessary expenses for the operation, maintenance and security" of The Kennedy Center, which received $25 million in another COVID-19 relief bill earlier this year. Also in a related story, the Kennedy Center has been closed.

Exhibits F, G, H, I, J: $86 million for assistance to Cambodia; $130 million to Nepal, $135 million to Burma, $453 million to Ukraine, $700 million to Sudan.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Strip. That. Stuff Out now, put each item in a separate bill, some other day. It's not that those are all bad things, but each should be voted on at another time.

[ahoysrcsm]

51. I don't listen to right wingers, and I don't respect people that post RW talking points.

If you can find something that isn't being parroted by racist RW hate radio, I may take you seriously. Until then I will suspect you as a right winger that is ignorant.

I do not understand how you could be against any of the funding in this bill. See Exhibit B from your racist article from "The Hill."


Exhibit B

Dear Reader,

This reconnaissance survey evaluates an archeological site in Springfield, Illinois associated with the city's 1908 Race Riot. The survey was undertaken in response to a request from Illinois 13th District Representative Rodney Davis in October 2018.

The site at Madison Street and the 10th Street Rail Corridor contains the foundations of five houses burned in the 1908 Springfield Race Riot, an event which led directly to the founding of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). The site contains artifacts from the houses that were burned and the people who lived there before the riot. Although there were dozens of race riots in America in the late 19th and early 20th century, few resources of this nature remain.

SPRINGFIELD RACE RIOT STUDY ACT

Ms. HAALAND. Madam Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the
bill (H.R. 139) to establish the Springfield Race Riot National
Historic Monument in the State of Illinois, and for other purposes, as
amended.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The text of the bill is as follows:

H.R. 139

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Springfield Race Riot Study
Act''.

SEC. 2. RESOURCE STUDY OF SPRINGFIELD RACE RIOT.

(a) Definitions.--In this section:
(1) Secretary.--The term ``Secretary'' means the Secretary
of the Interior.
(2) Study area.--The term ``study area'' means the
archeological site near Madison Street and the 10th Street
Rail Corridor, and other sites in Springfield, Illinois
associated with the 1908 Springfield Race Riot.
(b) Special Resource Study.--
(1) Study.--The Secretary shall conduct a special resource
study of the study area.
(2) Contents.--In conducting the study under paragraph (1),
the Secretary shall--
(A) evaluate the national significance of the study area;
(B) determine the suitability and feasibility of
designating the study area as a unit of the National Park
System;
(C) consider other alternatives for preservation,
protection, and interpretation of the study area by the
Federal Government, State or local government entities, or
private and nonprofit organizations;
(D) consult with interested Federal agencies, State or
local governmental entities, private and nonprofit
organizations, or any other interested individuals; and
(E) identify cost estimates for any Federal acquisition,
development, interpretation, operation, and maintenance
associated with the alternatives.
(3) Applicable law.--The study required under paragraph (1)
shall be conducted in accordance with section 100507 of title
54, United States Code.
(4) Report.--Not later than 3 years after the date on which
funds are first made available for the study under paragraph
(1), the Secretary shall submit to the Committee on Natural
Resources of the House of Representatives and the Committee
on Energy and Natural Resources of the Senate a report that
describes--
(A) the results of the study; and
(B) any conclusions and recommendations of the Secretary.

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to the rule, the gentlewoman from
New Mexico (Ms. Haaland) and the gentlewoman from Wyoming (Ms. Cheney)
each will control 20 minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from New Mexico.


General Leave

Ms. HAALAND. Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members
may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks
and include extraneous material on the measure under consideration.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentlewoman from New Mexico?
There was no objection.
Ms. HAALAND. Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume.
Madam Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 139, the Springfield Race
Riot Study Act, introduced by Representative Rodney Davis of Illinois.
In August 1908, Springfield, Illinois, was the site of a multiday
riot, with violence directed at the African-American community.
The mob shot innocent people, burned almost 50 homes, looted and
destroyed two dozen stores, and mutilated and lynched two elderly Black
men who were merely innocent bystanders.

{time} 1300

All of this violence came about because two other African-American
men were wrongly accused; one accused of attacking a White woman who,
not long after the riots, admitted that her attacker was a White man;
and one accused on slight evidence of attacking a White girl and of
murdering her father.
In part, as a response to the riot, the NAACP was formed in 1909 to
work to end segregation, discrimination, and ensure African Americans
are provided their constitutional rights.
This was the one bright light that emerged out of that dark moment in
our history, and it is an origin story that certainly resonates today
as the Nation continues to grapple with race relations and social
justice.
This bill will authorize the National Park Service to conduct a full,
special resource study to determine the most appropriate method to
preserve, interpret, and protect the resources associated with the riot
and the founding of the NAACP.
I want to thank Representative Davis for his efforts on this bill,
and I urge all of my colleagues to support its adoption.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. CHENEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 139, the Springfield Race Riot Study Act, which was
sponsored by our colleague, Congressman Rodney Davis, authorizes the
Secretary of the Interior to conduct a special resource study of the
site of the Springfield race riots of 1908.
As my colleague has just described, on the evening of August 14,
1908, racial tensions ignited in the Illinois capital of Springfield.
The riot was incited by a White mob who wanted to lynch two Black
inmates housed at the county jail. One had been charged with murdering
a White man, the other with raping a White woman, an allegation that
was later recanted.
After the two inmates were spirited away for their safety, the mob
destroyed Black neighborhoods and lynched two innocent Black men. Soon
after this horrific weekend of violence and racial strife, a prominent
group of social reformers came together in February 1909 and
established the National Association for the Advancement of Colored
People.

[[Page H4567]]

Recently, archeologists uncovered the physical remains of five houses
and their associated artifacts that burned in the 1908 riot. Last year,
the National Park Service completed a reconnaissance survey of the site
and concluded it was likely the site that would meet criteria for
inclusion in the National Park System if fully analyzed through a
congressionally authorized special resources study.
In August, Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt visited the site
of the 1908 riot to declare it part of the recently established African
American Civil Rights Network. One goal of this network is to ensure
that we accurately tell the complete and often painful story of the
struggle for civil rights in our country.
I commend Representative Davis on his work to highlight this tragic
event in our Nation's history. I urge adoption of the measure, and I
yield back the balance of my time.
Ms. HAALAND. Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the
legislation, and I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Takano). The question is on the motion
offered by the gentlewoman from New Mexico (Ms. Haaland) that the House
suspend the rules and pass the bill, H.R. 139, as amended.
The question was taken; and (two-thirds being in the affirmative) the
rules were suspended and the bill, as amended, was passed.
The title of the bill was amended so as to read: ``A bill to direct
the Secretary of the Interior to conduct a special resource study of
the site associated with the 1908 Springfield Race Riot in the State of
Illinois.''.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

____________________

[BumRushDaShow]

23. The membership went back home to their home districts

so the fastest "first step" for something like this would naturally be attempting a "unanimous consent".

This literally happens ALL the time, so it was not necessarily "a gimmick". It's a "rule" that is available for both chambers of Congress and both do it. All one needs to do is watch CSPAN and CSPAN2 to see HOW MANY times it is done, routinely, for literally hundreds of pieces legislation and resolutions.

[COL Mustard]

28. I Think She Made A Brilliant Move

It forces the GOP's hand.

[jalan48]

13. Here's how it's being reported in the news as a "both sides issue".

Reuters
Coronavirus aid at risk as U.S. lawmakers block Trump's changes

Democrats in the House of Representatives sought to increase direct payments to Americans included in the bill from $600 to $2,000 per person as part of a coronavirus economic relief initiative, acting on one of Trump's requests. Trump's fellow Republicans, who oppose the higher amount, blocked that effort.

Republicans sought to change the amount of foreign aid included in the package, seeking to address another one of Trump's complaints. Democrats blocked that request. The House then adjourned for the day.



Why is foreign aid included in such an important bill?

[yaesu]

19. What MSN is saying, Maddow for one, is that the Foreign aid is part of the Defense funding

and the way tRump whined about it made it sound like it was part of the stimulus package which it wasn't, which he probably knows but wanted to play to the Tparty crowd.

[jalan48]

26. It's the way the info is being presented to the public, by Reuters in this case.

[The Mouth]

45. I want any bastards out who are gung ho to STRIP that foreign aid and other crap out

Combining it all was dumb, and anybody in Congress who isn't willing to throw foreign aid and other pork out needs to be tarred and feathered, Republican or Democrat.

Whoever had the bright idea of combining them is both evil and stupid enough to make Trump look good.

All that shit besides money to citizens and businesses and paying soldiers and sailors can sit as long as needed. I don't give a fuck if Israel, Jordan, Venezuela or anyplace else ever get another fucking cent; indeed they SHOULDN'T until EVER American citizen has healthcare and a place to live.

[ahoysrcsm]

48. "Strip that out" as you state, and the Government is shut down.

Do you want Gov employees and contractors to be on unemployment? You do understand that all that "spending" GOP is bitching about, and you're siding with them it seems, is standard government procedure. The feds pay for a lot of our infrastructure and all us contractors get paid by that money too.

Not everyone is a gov employee, there are a lot of contractors that will hurt if the gov is shutdown. Did you care to think about us?

[The Mouth]

49. Look, we need three things, They should NOT be combined

- a stimulus
- a defense bill
-funding the continuing operations of the government

OF COURSE we need to do the latter two, but the third should be conducted with careful and public deliberation, maybe extend things for a few days or weeks to give EVERYBODY time to look at what is needed (paying federal employees and contractors) and what is pork or otherwise unnecessary in dire times (new museums, aid to Venezuela or Israel).

Get mad at whatever fucking idiot(s) are cramming all three together. We can't, and shouldn't do it all as one package. Infrastructure will wait a few weeks, getting help to the unemployed can't.

So kindly bitch at whatever moron decided that the Covid relief, the defense appropriations, and the funds for the continuity of government had to be voted on together.

[sweetloukillbot]

21. IT ISN'T!!!!!!

Jesus, how many times does it need to be stated here, the foreign aid is in the budget. The Stimulus is in the budget also.

[jalan48]

24. It's how it's being reported by the MSM. No wonder the public is confused.

[Polybius]

36. It shouldn't be in the budget either

Especially during these times.

[packman]

14. Repuke's just keep doin' it

[The Mouth]

46. Yeah, but they set it up to make it plausible that WE look like we're the ones putting in the pork

Hey, I like the Smithsonian, but building new museums when people are starving and getting evicted? Fuck that.

[George II]

16. Looked through the article, didn't see anyone specifically mentioned - just "republican leadership"

I guess it was McCarthy who is responsible for it?

So now there's going to be a full vote on Monday morning.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. I was just looking at the House Clerk record for the proceedings this morning

https://clerk.house.gov/ (no direct archived link for it yet), and it seems the "unanimous consent" request was never "officially" brought to the floor for consideration. So I expect the "signaling" from the "GOP leadership" (guessing McCarthy) that they (some designee) would "object", was "noted", so she didn't bother and moved on -

TIME | BILL NUMBER | ACTIVITY

09:12:14 AM | | The Speaker announced that the House do now adjourn pursuant to pursuant to section 4(b) of H. Res. 967. The next meeting is scheduled for 2:00 p.m. on December 28, 2020.

09:07:54 AM | H.R. 6395 | The Chair announced that pursuant to section 4 of H. Res. 1271, further consideration of the veto message and the bill will be postponed until Monday, December 28, 2020.

09:06:54 AM | H.R. 6395 | The Chair announced that the objections of the President to H.R. 6395 would be spread at large upon the Journal and the veto message would be printed as a House Document (116-174).

09:05:54 AM | H.R. 6395 | The Chair laid before the House the veto message from the President.

09:05:53 AM | | The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk transmitted to the House a sealed envelope received from the White House on December 23, 2020 at 3:29 p.m. said to contain a message from the President returning, without his approval, H.R. 6395.

09:04:11 AM | | The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk notified the House that she had received a message from the Secretary of the Senate on December 22, 2020, at 11:39 a.m. stating that the body had agreed to the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill H.R. 133, agreed to H. Con. Res. 127, passed H.R. 3153, as amended, H.R. 1418, H.R. 1492, and H.R. 2502.

09:03:29 AM | | The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk notified the House that she had received a message from the Secretary of the Senate on December 21, 2020, at 11:08 p.m. stating that the body had passed S. 2429, agreed to the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill H.R. 1520, agreed to H. Con. Res. 128, passed H.R. 3250, H.R. 5126, and H.R. 5472.

09:02:56 AM | | PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - The Chair designated Mr. Wittman to lead the Members in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

09:02:36 AM | | SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL - Pursuant to section 4(a) of H. Res. 967, the Journal of the last day's proceedings was approved.

09:01:15 AM | | Today's prayer was offered by the House Chaplain, Rev. Patrick J. Conroy.

09:00:52 AM | | The Speaker designated the Honorable Debbie Dingell to act as Speaker pro tempore for today.

09:00:01 AM | | The House convened, starting a new legislative day.

[yaesu]

18. This needs to be tweeted from all of our accounts, that repukes want to starve Americans. nt

[OldBaldy1701E]

39. You say that as if

the retags actually notice the rest of us. They only notice us when they need us to work to make them richer.

[orangecrush]

29. And that's the end of that.

Nancy made the bastards show their true colors.

Not a drop of fucking empathy for anyone.

[azureblue]

32. and the great thing is

Donnie set it all up for her. All she had to do was to give it a nudge.

[orangecrush]

35. Payback to Mitch

From Trump.
Hopefully this costs them the Senate.

[azureblue]

30. the emperor will not like that!

Donnie will not like this at all. They are not bowing down to his wishes.

[Bengus81]

38. Yep...if it helps ORDINARY people it's always wayyyyyyy to expensive for Republicans

Hell....$600 fucking nothing burger checks are still considered to expensive for Republicans. But Amazon not paying a penny in taxes is GOOD for the economy.

[Initech]

40. Time to vote every single one of their sorry asses out!!!

[ck4829]

52. K&R