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My Pet Orangutan

(9,257 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM Jan 2021

Google threatens to disable search in Australia if media code becomes law

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Google says it will stop making its search function available in Australia if Parliament passes the Morrison government's proposed laws to force it and Facebook to pay news businesses for their journalism.

Google Australia managing director Mel Silva told a Senate hearing on Friday the proposed news media bargaining code remained "unworkable", and the company was prepared to exit the Australian market.

"If this version of the code were to become law, it would give us no real choice but to stop making Google Search available in Australia," Ms Silva told the inquiry.

It is the first time the digital giant has made the threat to disable its primary search function to all Australians in its response to the proposed laws.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/google-threatens-to-disable-search-in-australia-if-media-code-becomes-law-20210122-p56w2h.html



The news business that the Australian government wants Google and Facebook to pay is Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which owns the vast majority of Australian newspapers.
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Google threatens to disable search in Australia if media code becomes law (Original Post) My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 OP
how is that a threat? KayF Jan 2021 #1
Try Swisscows DBoon Jan 2021 #2
DuckDuckGo is good alternative. canuckledragger Jan 2021 #3
I've been using DuckDuckGo for a few years now A_Woman_from_MI Jan 2021 #4
Same here, Duckduckgo works well for me. Throckmorton Jan 2021 #9
Yeah, I use that too canetoad Jan 2021 #12
Yes, but... Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #5
a good analogy stopdiggin Jan 2021 #7
It's a threat to the extent... Dr. Strange Jan 2021 #11
Aussies will have to rely on their local pub know-it-all for reliable info. nt oasis Jan 2021 #6
Er..... canetoad Jan 2021 #13
Who started this mess? Rupert Murdoch? SmartVoter22 Jan 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author nam78_two Jan 2021 #10
The proposed law is stupid Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #14

KayF

(1,345 posts)
1. how is that a threat?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:34 PM
Jan 2021

i'm not understanding something. I like Google but if it went away I would find something else in about 5 minutes, and then after an hour I would forget Google ever existed.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
2. Try Swisscows
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jan 2021

there are other search engines waiting in the wings. If Google is out, they will get their chance

canuckledragger

(1,641 posts)
3. DuckDuckGo is good alternative.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:55 PM
Jan 2021

They have a focus on privacy, and show actual results at the top of the page, not 50 million paid-for results that have nothing to do with your search like google does.

A_Woman_from_MI

(165 posts)
4. I've been using DuckDuckGo for a few years now
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jan 2021

They've gotten so good, I don't even compare them to Google search results anymore

canetoad

(17,164 posts)
12. Yeah, I use that too
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jan 2021

Funny thing is, they scrape the google results and serve them up free of Google ads and rankings. If Google shut their search down here, Duck Duck Go would still work.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
5. Yes, but...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:24 AM
Jan 2021

Any search engine that provides links to newspapers would have have to pay Australian newspapers, so they would face the same problem. To me, this would be like book publishers charging libraries for having card catalogues “linking” to their books.

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
7. a good analogy
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:23 AM
Jan 2021

You can be no friend of Google (or any of the other internet titans) -- and still see that Australia has the wrong end of this discussion.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
11. It's a threat to the extent...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

that Google provides a lot of traffic for news sites and does it better than other search engines. So their leaving and de-indexing Australian sites would result in lower traffic for those sites.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
8. Who started this mess? Rupert Murdoch?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:48 AM
Jan 2021

Who wrote this legislation?

Why is there a payment to simply promote a link to original journalism?

What lawsuits have occurred, so far, that shows damages were inflicted upon newspapers or others?

This looks like something Rupert Murdoch would be behind.

Does this 'code' include news organizations that do not want payment, and would want to provide search engines with access, to refer or link, to any of their copyrighted and published works? I would think there are many, not just the few who would profit from this.

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