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brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:10 AM Jan 2021

We feel incredibly betrayed': Thousands of Guardsmen forced to vacate Capitol

Source: Politico

Thousands of National Guardsmen were forced to vacate congressional grounds on Thursday and are now taking their rest breaks outside and in nearby parking garages, after two weeks of sleepless nights protecting the nation’s capital in the wake of the violent assault on Jan. 6.

One unit, which had been resting in the Dirksen Senate Office building, was abruptly told to vacate the facility on Thursday, according to one Guardsman. The group was forced to rest in a nearby parking garage without internet reception, with just one electrical outlet, and one bathroom with two stalls for 5,000 troops, the person said.

...snip...

All National Guard troops were told to vacate the Capitol and nearby congressional buildings on Thursday, and to set up mobile command centers outside or in nearby hotels, another Guardsman confirmed. They were told to take their rest breaks during their 12-hour shifts outside and in parking garages, the person said.

Prominent lawmakers from both parties took to Twitter to decry the decision and call for answers after POLITICO first reported the news Thursday night. Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Senate Majority Leader, tweeted: "If this is true, it's outrageous. I will get to the bottom of this."


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/national-guard-troops-vacate-capitol-461220



Sounds as though it was an administrative decision by the Capitol Police.
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We feel incredibly betrayed': Thousands of Guardsmen forced to vacate Capitol (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2021 OP
Capitol Police are governed by Congress. They fired the Chief last week, but Hoyt Jan 2021 #1
Sounds manufactured to me. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #2
So, why would the Capital Police not discuss this with others before making that decision? mysteryowl Jan 2021 #3
I want to hear what General Honore has to say Lulu KC Jan 2021 #4
Aren't they supposed to start going home now? Bayard Jan 2021 #5
MSNBC tonight: someone said no to that and moving NG troops back to the capital Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #6
Iwonder if this is a move by McConnell et al to remove the most visible reminder of the Insurrection Hekate Jan 2021 #7
Yes! That makes sense to me. Cui bono? CTyankee Jan 2021 #27
...have been informed Capitol Police have apologized to the Guardsmen and they will be allowed back riversedge Jan 2021 #8
Replying to @SenDuckworth Update: Troops are now all out of the garage. Now I can go to bed. riversedge Jan 2021 #9
Duckworth is getting things done sakabatou Jan 2021 #10
Thank you Sen. Duckworth. Whoever made this bonehead decision need to answer & apologize to the onetexan Jan 2021 #11
It was the Park Police and they did apologize. How it how happened NOT explained riversedge Jan 2021 #12
Thanks, i just read the other thread. Painful to hear what happened. onetexan Jan 2021 #13
If it was the Park Police, why did the Capitol Police apoligize? Kaleva Jan 2021 #19
yes, Capitol police. my mistake -sorry for the confusion riversedge Jan 2021 #20
No problem! Kaleva Jan 2021 #21
Who the hell in the Capitol Police made this decision? Sapient Donkey Jan 2021 #14
I agree. A fascist move for sure. The red Don my be gone but, the war is not over. nt Hotler Jan 2021 #17
Yep. As I said, cui bono? CTyankee Jan 2021 #28
Ahh Yes OldBaldy1701E Jan 2021 #15
The National Guard was back in the Capitol before midnight. George II Jan 2021 #16
Acting Capitol Police Chief Yogananda Pittman needs to provide answers. Kaleva Jan 2021 #18
I'm not sure who they feel "betrayed" them. This is what they signed up for, isn't it? Nitram Jan 2021 #22
Holy Crap! The new Pentagon boss has some work to do maxrandb Jan 2021 #23
On my first ship, we took showers topside while underway when it was raining. Kaleva Jan 2021 #25
I was on an Amphib maxrandb Jan 2021 #26
I woke up many times to smell of K***ke's stinky feet right in my face Kaleva Jan 2021 #30
Every damn Guardsman who complained about being "betrayed" flotsam Jan 2021 #24
Flotus personally delivered snacks to them today. Greybnk48 Jan 2021 #29
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Capitol Police are governed by Congress. They fired the Chief last week, but
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021

it’s time to put someone with sense in charge, like tonight.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
2. Sounds manufactured to me.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021

Did anyone ask Biden and Harris to intercede? Or was this a managed local bombshell?

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
3. So, why would the Capital Police not discuss this with others before making that decision?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

The CP need some revamping in leadership training.

Lulu KC

(2,566 posts)
4. I want to hear what General Honore has to say
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

(Should read HONORE with accent over last E--can't get this to work!)

This does not sound right.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
7. Iwonder if this is a move by McConnell et al to remove the most visible reminder of the Insurrection
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:49 AM
Jan 2021

“Nothing to see here, let’s move along, and why would you want to convict Trump in the Senate?”

Living under GOP rule has dialed up my cynicism.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
8. ...have been informed Capitol Police have apologized to the Guardsmen and they will be allowed back
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jan 2021

geez. No way to treat them.


.....By 10 p.m., Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.) said the situation was “being resolved” and that the Guardsmen would be able to return indoors later in the night.

“Just made a number of calls and have been informed Capitol Police have apologized to the Guardsmen and they will be allowed back into the complex tonight,” added Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), who lost both of her legs in combat. “I’ll keep checking to make sure they are.”


A Guard source confirmed late Thursday night that all troops in the parking garages were ordered to return inside the Capitol.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
9. Replying to @SenDuckworth Update: Troops are now all out of the garage. Now I can go to bed.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:06 AM
Jan 2021

Duckworth has been on the phone helping them tonight.


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Update: Troops are now all out of the garage. Now I can go to bed.



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onetexan

(13,041 posts)
11. Thank you Sen. Duckworth. Whoever made this bonehead decision need to answer & apologize to the
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:08 AM
Jan 2021

Good men &women protecting them &the Capitol. Im terribly disappointed our NG were treated this way. Glad they were allowed back into the capitol &i hope theyre still being fed well by chef Andres & other restaurants, &that madam Speaker &congress people continue to treat them well &thank them for their service.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
19. If it was the Park Police, why did the Capitol Police apoligize?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jan 2021

"....By 10 p.m., Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.) said the situation was “being resolved” and that the Guardsmen would be able to return indoors later in the night.

“Just made a number of calls and have been informed Capitol Police have apologized to the Guardsmen and they will be allowed back into the complex tonight,” added Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), who lost both of her legs in combat. “I’ll keep checking to make sure they are.”

A Guard source confirmed late Thursday night that all troops in the parking garages were ordered to return inside the Capitol."

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2677972

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
14. Who the hell in the Capitol Police made this decision?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:50 AM
Jan 2021

I hope they look into this to make sure it wasn't some political move to make it look as if the Biden admin was treating our soldiers poorly.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,129 posts)
15. Ahh Yes
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:52 AM
Jan 2021

Yet another example of some bonehead making a decision and then hiding behind bureaucracy so he cannot be blamed. One of the many things that I found funny about the 'drain the swamp' cry was that they had no idea what 'the swamp' was. They thought it was people. (And, there are plenty of people who need to be 'drained' back to their caves but that is another story). The 'swamp' is the morass of bureaucratic bullshiat that is SOP for our government. And, it was made bigger by those who were crowing about getting rid of it. (No surprise there). Now we see if the new administration will decide if the cry to correct the bloated bureaucracy (which originated long before the MAGAts claimed it for themselves) is worth answering. Or, they will use it to make things even more bloated and impossible to handle. The call for transparency still needs to be addressed. I hope it will be answered.

maxrandb

(15,331 posts)
23. Holy Crap! The new Pentagon boss has some work to do
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jan 2021

I spent close to 30 years in the Navy. There were times that I would have given my left testicle to have something as spacious and comfortable as a parking garage to sleep in.

During 24/7 Flight Ops, we'd catch a nap in the blazing sun, or freezing cold on a nonskid flight deck.

My God! Don't even get me started on the Box Lunches during extended General Quarters.

WTF? The guy who described this as "being betrayed" should be sent on a 12 month deployment to the OPLATS in the Persian Gulf.

I am all for treating our troops well, and if I understand the National Guard, they all have government paid for hotels and per diem.

You join the military, you better understand that your job is not always going to be comfortable.

Electrical Outlets and Wifi???

Reminds me of one day at Muster when I forgot to shave:

Master Chief: "why didn't you shave dumbass"?
Me: "someone stold my radio Master Chief"
Master Chief: "what the fuck does that have to do with you shaving"?
Me: "my electric shaver was on top of my radio".

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
25. On my first ship, we took showers topside while underway when it was raining.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 04:58 PM
Jan 2021

First words passed when we left port were often "Secure the sea and anchor detail. Fresh water is secured throughout the ship." We couldn't shave, shower or brush our teeth till we pulled back into port.

I slept in my work space as the stench in the berthing compartments was just too much. A kapok on the deck was my mattress and my foul weather jacket was my blanket. After my first cruise, I stocked up on 5 gallon containers of water in my work shop before we left port. i used that for bird baths, shaving and brushing my teeth and also for washing my socks and skivvies. I washed my utilities by putting them in my mesh laundry bag and tying a heaving line to it and dragging the bag in the wake of the ship. It took me just once to learn not to wash my skivvies and socks that way. it takes a special kind of someone to wear salt encrusted underwear and I ain't that kind of person.

maxrandb

(15,331 posts)
26. I was on an Amphib
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jan 2021

You haven't smelled death until you've smelled Marines coming back to the ship after 3 weeks in the field.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
30. I woke up many times to smell of K***ke's stinky feet right in my face
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

We didn't have dividers separating our racks. So K***ke would slide down on his rack when he was asleep and his feet would end up on my pillow.

On subsequent cruises, I didn't sleep in the berthing compartment when underway much unless we were just out for a few days.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
24. Every damn Guardsman who complained about being "betrayed"
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Should be activated and sent to an infantry unit for 90 days-then ask them to describe their "feelings"!

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
29. Flotus personally delivered snacks to them today.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jan 2021

I'm thinking the GOP ordered the Capitol police to pull this stunt.

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