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groundloop

(13,558 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:35 PM Jan 2021

A huge piece of California's Highway 1 near Big Sur collapsed into the ocean

Source: CNN

A huge piece of California's Highway 1 was washed out this week by a winter storm that brought heavy rain and snow.

California Department of Transportation (Caltrans) officials said in a statement Friday a debris flow from the hillside above the roadway "overwhelmed drainage infrastructure, flowed across the highway, and eroded the road resulting in the complete loss of a segment of Highway 1" at Rat Creek, about 15 miles south of Big Sur, a mountainous stretch of the state's central coast.

California Highway Patrol Officer John Yerace said he was in the area on Thursday around 4 p.m. when he noticed "this section of roadway, specifically the southbound lane, had fallen off into the ocean."

Images and drone footage from the scene show a huge gap in the scenic highway, which runs along much of the California coast.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/us/big-sur-road-collapse-trnd/index.html

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A huge piece of California's Highway 1 near Big Sur collapsed into the ocean (Original Post) groundloop Jan 2021 OP
It's very typical. Happens every winter. Those coastal hills are a loose jumble of clay and rocks. diane in sf Jan 2021 #1
Slippery clay indeed. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #33
:) Obviously made for vivid memories, though. Hortensis Jan 2021 #47
Yes, I still enjoyed it! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #52
Oh, no! We've camped up there, but pre-electronic advantages, Hortensis Jan 2021 #53
And here's yet another funny story. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #54
Lol. Snoots. We had our own encounter on getting lost, but north of SF Hortensis Jan 2021 #57
Lol, that's funny too! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #58
Oh, okay. I'd like to see Borat in that role. Reminds me a bit Hortensis Jan 2021 #59
i've driven that road a few times. seemed like a bad place to put a road to me. mopinko Jan 2021 #2
Being on the coast, a lot of erosion has happened since it was built. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #11
when was it built? mopinko Jan 2021 #13
Between 1919 and 1937. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #16
It's not winter if Hwy 1 hasn't been wiped out somewhere south of Big Sur... RockRaven Jan 2021 #3
ain't it the truth... stillcool Jan 2021 #26
Now that you put it that way, yes! :) Hortensis Jan 2021 #48
my luck MFM008 Jan 2021 #4
Wow. I'm glad no one was driving at night or whenever, and this happened while they were SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #5
+++ agree. nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #6
OMG - when will Apple release an update? My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #7
? TimeToGo Jan 2021 #19
The current MacOs is called Big Sur My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #21
😎 TimeToGo Jan 2021 #46
That is one of the most beautiful highways in the country. BigDemVoter Jan 2021 #8
every time i drove it mopinko Jan 2021 #14
Even while you're a passenger, with nothing to grip. pnwmom Jan 2021 #20
that too. mopinko Jan 2021 #22
A link to a video from the link in the OP: Worried2020 Jan 2021 #9
Floor it. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #39
See "Thelma and Louise". We can't all be Evel Knievel. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #51
Going to take a bunch of backfill loaded trucks to repair that washout. magicarpet Jan 2021 #10
They'll cut the road further into the mountain. I have a friend who lives near there whose family diane in sf Jan 2021 #40
That'll buff right out Baclava Jan 2021 #12
I Love Any Reference To UC Santa Cruz COL Mustard Jan 2021 #23
And Tom Lehrer! central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #56
Thanks for post burrowowl Jan 2021 #37
Uh, oh. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #15
We take the train from Union Station in Los Angeles to R B Garr Jan 2021 #43
I so hope you get to take the train for that journey. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #45
Thanks! We hope to take that trip soon, too. Amtrak R B Garr Jan 2021 #49
I'm not a real traveling type.... Upthevibe Jan 2021 #17
I think they'll need a bridge there...too big a wash out. patphil Jan 2021 #18
That's a 4-5 hour detour. ... aggiesal Jan 2021 #24
It is, for sure, my favorite road in North America. My life was changed by it, in fact. NNadir Jan 2021 #25
Orange Sunshine or Window Pane? Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #28
A far more powerful drug... NNadir Jan 2021 #31
What a great story! Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #32
Oh hell yeah ... mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #41
That is beautiful. joshcryer Jan 2021 #34
Love! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2021 #36
It Will Be Fixed. BlueCanine Jan 2021 #27
it will be fixed. Coyote45 Jan 2021 #50
Hmmm.....wonder if I should head back to Annandale? paleotn Jan 2021 #29
I drove over that section on my way to camp... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #30
Love that highway, except when I'm heading south on the passenger's side PlanetBev Jan 2021 #35
The Jewish laser from space nwduke Jan 2021 #38
Ding ding ding! A winner! nt Ilsa Jan 2021 #62
If only they'd raked the highway! Teddy Beer Jan 2021 #42
My God, he's such a moron. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #55
Jewish Lasers. sarcasmo Jan 2021 #44
Zoinks! Blue Owl Jan 2021 #60
How the heck do they fix something like that? Kablooie Jan 2021 #61
Blast and dig into the mountain. It should be cheaper. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #66
Ramps on both sides twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #63
Yeah, it's scenic AF, but all of my memories of driving it intrepidity Feb 2021 #64
Traveled PCH more than I can count and love it every time. But yeah... Xolodno Feb 2021 #65

diane in sf

(4,211 posts)
1. It's very typical. Happens every winter. Those coastal hills are a loose jumble of clay and rocks.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jan 2021

Water runs in seams behind parts of the cliffs and hills, and stuff slides lubed by water and slippery clay.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
33. Slippery clay indeed.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:54 PM
Jan 2021

I jumped onto a dry dirt-covered rock while crossing a creek, and it was like jumping onto ice. Flipped into the creek, but I was thankful that I didn't break any bones.

I repeatedly hurt myself while camping in that area.

Decided to walk down a trail to the bottom of Jade Cove in flip-flops instead of my hiking boots, since I saw other people with similar footwear heading down, and soon learned that the "trail" becomes extremely steep! I was sliding down on my butt through several parts. Then I immediately gashed a big toe at the bottom of the cove on a sharp rock, and I later had to repeatedly push the cut flesh into dirt on the way back up. It was much more of a climb than a walk, digging the feet into the trail for stability.

Cleaned out the dirt as much as I could when I returned to the rental car, where I left most of my gear and the first-aid kit.

Nearby Sand Dollar Beach was much more pleasant!

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
52. Yes, I still enjoyed it!
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jan 2021

Later camped at Point Reyes, north of San Francisco, which was like a rain forest in comparison.

Various birds were seen throughout Point Reyes, and apparently one of the large unknown birds kept walking around my mostly-secluded tent and making loud noises throughout the night. I recorded the strange and loud sounds with my video camera, and learned the next day from a ranger that it was the calls of a mountain lion in heat! Lol, glad that I didn't go outside in the darkness and try to scare away the "bird".

I liked the people that I met out there!

EDIT:
I had no idea at the time that mountain lions made these kinds of sounds:

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Oh, no! We've camped up there, but pre-electronic advantages,
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jan 2021

so if a mountain lion was prowling around we never knew. Thanks for the video! Great fun and neither of us would have known what that bird was. So beautiful there!

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
54. And here's yet another funny story.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

I tried to stay on Hwy 1 as long as possible from Big Sur to Point Reyes, despite how Google maps had recommended another route for faster travel.

Since I did that, I learned that Hwy 1 becomes more like small suburban streets north of San Francisco, and it's crucial to not miss any road signs to remain on the "highway". At some point, I indeed missed a turn and I ended up slowly driving through a crowd of wealthy-looking and well-dressed people congregating and walking on a road. They moved out of my way as I slowly proceeded, looking at me like I was insane.

I asked some of them for directions back to Hwy 1, and all of them curtly said they didn't know that area. So they didn't seem very nice to me, but I eventually circled around and found the turn to Hwy 1 that I had missed earlier.

I later learned that I was driving through some famous movie festival, which usually has several celebrities in attendance. Lol.

I didn't own a smartphone back then, which would've obviously been more helpful than my cheap flip phone for those situations. Lol.

Edit: Maybe it was part of a film festival in Mill Valley? I was there in October, which fits when it's held. I just don't remember the names now. I know that I exited onto Hwy 1 after it had merged with 101, but then I continued driving straight soon thereafter when I was supposed to turn left.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
57. Lol. Snoots. We had our own encounter on getting lost, but north of SF
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jan 2021

down a back road to some ostentatiously hippyish community that remained dropped out long, long after the whims of popular culture had moved on. No one in the little crowd in the only store had any idea how to get to a highway in the outside world. (Surprise.)

All we could guess was that our machine-made clothes and cab-over camper with children and a cat hanging out the windows shouted plastic people to them, or some other modern polluting lifeform. Whatever. We eventually stumbled onto a nursery that specialized in dozens of varieties of lavender and vintage roses, so it was worth getting lost.

In any case, it sounds like they had more in common with your crowd than would please either.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
58. Lol, that's funny too!
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 06:17 PM
Jan 2021

I think the people milling around on the street in my situation were mostly from elsewhere, transported to the nearby theater by others. I was wondering why none of them seemed to know their location. Didn't they live in that area? Then one of them spoke to me in broken English, obviously from some non-English speaking European country. That's when I realized it was some kind of international event.

After I started to very slowly drive through the crowd, I was committed because people resumed standing in the street behind me. So it was my rental car surrounded by people on all sides, with me politely waving and mouthing "sorry" as I continued, periodically asking some of them for directions. Lol, it was ironically like a weird movie scene.

I left Big Sur before dawn that morning, but I had to speed-walk (with a heavy backpack) to my distant campsite at Point Reyes to set up camp just before sunset. I was much sweatier than I intended that night.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Oh, okay. I'd like to see Borat in that role. Reminds me a bit
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jan 2021

of crawling around the central square of a Mexican town during a national holiday. We weren't in the wrong place, but it was the wrong time and the crowds there for the festival were not in the mood to make way for tourists. Of course. Like you, we enjoyed wherever we ended up.

mopinko

(73,265 posts)
2. i've driven that road a few times. seemed like a bad place to put a road to me.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jan 2021

beautiful but terrifying.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
11. Being on the coast, a lot of erosion has happened since it was built.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jan 2021

And we know more about it now. I don't think they would build it today given current conditions.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
16. Between 1919 and 1937.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jan 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_1

The interesting thing will be what they do to fix it. There was an area up in San Mateo County that was known as Devil's Slide that they were constantly repairing for smaller slides. They finally went inland and cut a tunnel through a mountain and bypassed it. Not a cheap project. I would imagine if there is flat area inland of this one they will just build a bypass.

RockRaven

(18,633 posts)
3. It's not winter if Hwy 1 hasn't been wiped out somewhere south of Big Sur...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:49 PM
Jan 2021

After 2020, and now how 2021 is starting, it's almost comforting to see a normal headline in the news.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
26. ain't it the truth...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jan 2021

I've gotten used to a see-saw affect with mind-numbing news, followed eventually by a slight dis-ease, while waiting for next. The weather can get have some pretty scary affects too, but it's already factored in the natural ebb and flow thing.

SWBTATTReg

(26,012 posts)
5. Wow. I'm glad no one was driving at night or whenever, and this happened while they were
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jan 2021

on the road, it would have been sheer terror going down the side of that road...

BigDemVoter

(4,675 posts)
8. That is one of the most beautiful highways in the country.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:30 PM
Jan 2021

Every time I've taken it, I've wondered about its stability. . . . I guess I know now.

mopinko

(73,265 posts)
14. every time i drove it
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:53 PM
Jan 2021

i wondered why it didnt have guardrails.
hard to enjoy it while you have a death grip on the wheel.

mopinko

(73,265 posts)
22. that too.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jan 2021

grippin my knees i was. my ex is a very good driver. it flustered me more in the passenger seat that it did him.
have driven it myself, too.

diane in sf

(4,211 posts)
40. They'll cut the road further into the mountain. I have a friend who lives near there whose family
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jan 2021

has run the heavy equipment to repair the road for three generations. They live on an amazing piece of property west of the highway.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,437 posts)
15. Uh, oh.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

I mean, who could possibly think that wasn't the best place to locate a highway?

About five years ago I took the Coast Starlight from Los Angeles to Portland, OR. Great train, fantastic trip. In part of California we were extremely close to the ocean, and I kept on thinking, "What there were an earthquake?" As it happens, about two days after that there was a minor earthquake which shut down that part of the train for a day or so.

Much of the coast of California is geologically unstable. Overall, this whole planet is geologically active. Which is why life can be so interesting at times.

R B Garr

(17,936 posts)
43. We take the train from Union Station in Los Angeles to
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:28 AM
Jan 2021

San Luis Obispo and then rent a car for the rest of the PCH drive into Monterey. That gets us into the most beautiful coastal drive of the highway after an easy 5-hour train ride. We still haven’t taken the train to Portland yet, but plan to soon.

Just today I told my husband we should start checking to see if they open up Monterey Aquarium soon since the stay-at-home orders in California are being lifted. That’s when he told me about this highway collapse! So disappointed that favorite trip is going to be delayed again.

I know what you mean about the train close to the coast. Even going down to San Diego there are parts where you can hardly see the land the tracks are on.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,437 posts)
45. I so hope you get to take the train for that journey.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:34 AM
Jan 2021

The PCH is wonderful.

There are many great trips to be taken everywhere, all over our wonderful country.

I personally have several trips I want to take. Last year, in 2020, I had planned to take Amtrak from Lamy, NM to Seattle, Washington, via Chicago, last year. Overnight from New Mexico to Chicago. A hotel in Chicago, then two overnights on the train to Seattle. What a wonderful adventure! Alas, the pandemic put an end to that trip, but I sincerely hope it will be able to happen in the future. Perhaps 2022, or in 2023. Probably not this year. Sigh.

The up side to all of the cancellations because of Covid is that I can plan on future travel with the money not spent.

R B Garr

(17,936 posts)
49. Thanks! We hope to take that trip soon, too. Amtrak
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jan 2021

seems pretty safe. They have strict mask enforcement and they are not overselling seats. We took the train for a couple short 2-hour trips from L.A. to San Diego around the holidays and it was very well spaced seating, sometimes almost empty. That gave me confidence.

Your planned trips sound wonderful! They will be here before you know it. Fingers crossed...so thrilled with the vaccines underway.

One of these days we also want to take Amtrak from Boston to New York, but that involves air travel, so that’s delayed.

I was so bummed that Biden couldn’t take Amtrak for his inauguration. It would have been such a nice visual. Train travel is such good old-fashioned fun.

Upthevibe

(10,000 posts)
17. I'm not a real traveling type....
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:04 PM
Jan 2021

I've just never been into travel (except for road trips). I just don't like packing, airports, and all that comes with it. I feel like I'm in a continuous state of being disoriented.

The only other countries I've ever been to are Mexico, Costa Rica, and Canada. I say this to give context to my feelings about this particular part of my state - Big Sur. The drive from Southern CA to Northern CA on that route is the most beautiful scenery I've ever seen in my entire life. I live in the L.A. area, and I've had the pleasure of driving from here to San Francisco several times. It's breathtaking. Obviously, some real stabilizing is going to need to happen.....

aggiesal

(10,528 posts)
24. That's a 4-5 hour detour. ...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:25 PM
Jan 2021

Qanonsense says it's a jewish space lazer that blew it up!

I bet if we put that on a board somewhere, it would become a trend.

NNadir

(37,231 posts)
25. It is, for sure, my favorite road in North America. My life was changed by it, in fact.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jan 2021

The moment in my life when I realized that I really, really, really wanted to live took place just a few meters off that road.

NNadir

(37,231 posts)
31. A far more powerful drug...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jan 2021

Love.

I woke up in a little cabin off the road, in a grove of redwoods, next to the woman I would marry.

I had never seen anyone or anything as beautiful as she.

35 years later, I can touch that moment as if it were seconds ago.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
41. Oh hell yeah ...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jan 2021

Esp. Avila & Pirates Cove in SLO, and Montana De Oro in Morro Bay. And Capitola/Aptos area.

And the Ocean Beach/Cliff House/Sutro Baths area.

Oh, and Half Moon Bay.

And there were definitely doses involved on a few occasions.

AND love

FailureToCommunicate

(14,581 posts)
36. Love!
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:28 PM
Jan 2021

Great memory!

I have a similar one, from China Cove, Point Lobos, 50 years ago. *sigh*

BlueCanine

(87 posts)
27. It Will Be Fixed.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jan 2021

I've seen events like this on this road many times in my 68 years. The fix may take years for this event but it will happen again somewhere else along that road. When multiple washouts occur that isolates the communities in the area people have to rely on the state to supply them with food and fuel. It's a constant burden on the state to keep this road open but the tourist trade for those communities drives the state to maintain and keep this scenic road open.

Many influential people have a stake in keeping the road open including Clint Eastwood, Joan Baez and other celebrities. The Esalen Institute is another driving force to keep the road open. Many music festivals have taken place along what I believe to be, the most scenic road in America.

It will open and close again but will never be abandoned.

Coyote45

(29 posts)
50. it will be fixed.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

the fact is california is caving into the pacific ocean. it is as inevitable as the moon coming up tomorrow.

paleotn

(21,452 posts)
29. Hmmm.....wonder if I should head back to Annandale?
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jan 2021

Apologies to Steely Dan...

My Old School...
California tumbles into the sea
That'll be the day I go back to Annandale

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
30. I drove over that section on my way to camp...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:05 PM
Jan 2021

... at Limekiln State Park a few years ago.

The views were amazing, mostly enjoyed during stops, but I was pretty damn focused on the road whenever I was driving.

PlanetBev

(4,396 posts)
35. Love that highway, except when I'm heading south on the passenger's side
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:09 PM
Jan 2021

Years ago, I looked down and saw an 18-wheeler that had tumbled down to the bottom of the cliff.

After that, you couldn’t drive a toothpick up my ass.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,480 posts)
55. My God, he's such a moron.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jan 2021

"Everyone grab their rakes, brooms and dust pans! It's time to tidy up the forests again!"

Kablooie

(19,032 posts)
61. How the heck do they fix something like that?
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jan 2021

Do they build a bridge or dig out the mountain a lot more?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,576 posts)
66. Blast and dig into the mountain. It should be cheaper.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 08:18 AM
Feb 2021

It's a fast job, if they contract with the Jewish Space Laser Agency. Boom! Done!

intrepidity

(8,550 posts)
64. Yeah, it's scenic AF, but all of my memories of driving it
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:27 AM
Feb 2021

are all horrible. Both as driver and passenger. I've been up and down that highway enough to last the rest of my life. Now I totally avoid it, just not worth the anxiety.

But I think I was scarred while in HS, learning about a classmate who had perished when their vehicle plunged into the Pacific, right in this area that has collapsed.

Thank god for Google Earth, where I now satisfy my travel urges, from the (relative) safety of my (twice-within-a-year-evacuated-due-to-wildfires) home sweet home...

Xolodno

(7,294 posts)
65. Traveled PCH more than I can count and love it every time. But yeah...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:32 PM
Feb 2021

...every few years a portion of it gets wiped out. They'll either bridge it, cut in, divert of some combination. It's a big tourist route with its breathtaking views.

I remember one year the state set aside money to finally repair Highway 39 to reach the ski resorts with a quicker route...then they diverted the funding to PCH since another portion of it got wiped out.

Thankfully, no one got hurt. I remember the La Conchita landslide in 2009 that wiped out a few homes and killing a number of people. Good portion of PCH is in areas where the landscape "changes".

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