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Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:45 AM

Supreme Court won't halt Trump tax record turnover

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a significant defeat for former President Donald Trump, the Supreme Court is declining to step in to halt the turnover of his tax records to a New York state prosecutor.

The court’s action Monday is the apparent culmination of a lengthy legal battle that had already reached the high court once before.

Trump’s tax records are not supposed to become public as part of prosecutors’ investigation, but the high court’s action is a blow to Trump because he has for so long fought on so many fronts to keep his tax records shielded from view. The ongoing investigation the records are part of could also become an issue for Trump in his life after the presidency. Trump has called it “a fishing expedition” and “a continuation of the witch hunt — the greatest witch hunt in history.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-supreme-court-courts-3aee14146906351ee9dd34aa7b6f4386



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Reply Supreme Court won't halt Trump tax record turnover (Original post)
George II Feb 22 OP
Montauk6 Feb 22 #1
George II Feb 22 #5
oldsoftie Feb 22 #61
gab13by13 Feb 22 #2
Montauk6 Feb 22 #11
Initech Feb 22 #49
Miles Archer Feb 22 #18
DeminPennswoods Feb 22 #35
IrishAfricanAmerican Feb 22 #3
Jack from Charlotte Feb 22 #21
bluestarone Feb 22 #4
bucolic_frolic Feb 22 #6
soothsayer Feb 22 #7
Hoyt Feb 22 #8
Alpeduez21 Feb 22 #23
efhmc Feb 22 #28
Alpeduez21 Feb 22 #34
Hoyt Feb 22 #36
Alpeduez21 Feb 22 #42
SayItLoud Feb 22 #9
Alpeduez21 Feb 22 #43
Demsrule86 Feb 22 #46
JohnnyRingo Feb 22 #10
ancianita Feb 22 #17
mezame Feb 22 #33
fwvinson Feb 22 #50
oldsoftie Feb 22 #60
FakeNoose Feb 22 #12
DeminPennswoods Feb 22 #37
TNNurse Feb 22 #13
ananda Feb 22 #14
ancianita Feb 22 #15
Karma13612 Feb 22 #16
Jon King Feb 22 #19
Justice matters. Feb 22 #20
turbinetree Feb 22 #22
Ziggysmom Feb 22 #24
AverageOldGuy Feb 22 #25
yonder Feb 22 #32
efhmc Feb 22 #39
yonder Feb 22 #65
Silver1 Feb 22 #26
efhmc Feb 22 #40
Silver1 Feb 22 #56
SergeStorms Feb 22 #27
nitpicker Feb 22 #29
Dr. T Feb 22 #30
stevil Feb 22 #31
TheRickles Feb 22 #38
pandr32 Feb 22 #41
bluescribbler Feb 22 #44
KS Toronado Feb 22 #45
Roc2020 Feb 22 #47
Initech Feb 22 #48
onetexan Feb 22 #51
BobTheSubgenius Feb 22 #52
NurseJackie Feb 22 #53
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 22 #54
Stuart G Feb 22 #55
brooklynite Feb 22 #57
George II Feb 22 #58
monkeyman1 Feb 22 #64
Sapient Donkey Feb 22 #59
SWBTATTReg Feb 22 #62
Bengus81 Feb 22 #63
Cha Feb 22 #66


Response to Montauk6 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:48 AM

5. Thanks. I changed the source to Associated Press, who had it up earlier.

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Response to Montauk6 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:06 PM

61. Is there anything about what the vote was? Or was this not before the full court?

I dont see any mention in the article except for the earlier decision last year

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:47 AM

2. That's going to put a damper on his CPAC speech.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:59 AM

11. Or he'll play the Persecution Card

That goes over well with those lemmings.

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Response to Montauk6 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:15 PM

49. The CPAC agenda has been circulating on Twitter.

There's literally a conference called "So you've been deplatformed - now what?".

It should be more accurately titled "So you got banned for saying something racist or sexist or called for violence. Watch out - you might be on an FBI watch list!"

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:32 AM

18. "Presumptive 2024 Republican nominee" and "potential convicted felon"

Let's hope SDNY is able to go the distance on this and actually bring charges against him.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:26 AM

35. This is the Manhattan DA, Cy Vance, not SDNY

who is investigating the case.
This is the DU member formerly known as DeminPennswoods.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:47 AM

3. 😎

This is the DU member formerly known as Alacritous Crier.

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Response to IrishAfricanAmerican (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:44 AM

21. So this goes to a Grand Jury. You know what they say about Grand Juries?.....

the famous phrase, “by and large….[district attorneys] could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich.”

Guess who's going to be the ham sandwich, here?


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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:47 AM

4. WHOOPY DOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like this asshole finally got CUT, and bleeding some!!!!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:49 AM

6. "the greatest witch hunt in history." Such subliminal flattery!

It would take the greatest witch hunt to take down the greatest one, wouldn't it?

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:52 AM

8. Maybe it will prove useful, but I'd bet it doesn't produce any info that is not known.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:48 AM

23. Known and proven in a court of law are different things

This allows the evidence to be gathered and submitted. The prosecutors can move forward with the case. Yes, he's a cheat and a fraud. That hasn't and will continue not to matter to those who adore him. But the legal ramifications from fines to incarceration became more readily available if a conviction can be garnered.

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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:06 AM

28. Becoming legally liable maybe, finally.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:18 AM

34. Becoming legally liable

would be awesome!

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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:28 AM

36. He'll never be prosecuted. Might have to pay some additional taxes, but prosecutors aren't likely

to take him to court on a criminal tax charge.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:47 AM

42. That's what Al Capone thought, too (nt)

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:55 AM

9. He will appeal at some other level of the system. Just wait. NT

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:49 AM

43. I'm curious to what other level could he appeal?

My understanding is the supreme court is it. Maybe he could appeal again with some other angle but it seems this matter is settled

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:57 AM

46. Scotus is it...he lost.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:58 AM

10. Damage control will begin the rationalization.

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:37 AM - Edit history (2)

Before this is over, the republicans will declare cheating the US government as the most patriotic thing an American can do. They'll find vague references in the bible and recall some founders who dumped tea to avoid paying taxes. (never mind the details)

They already floated this during 2016 when Hillary accused him of cheating on his taxes. "It means I'm smart". Nary a Republican batted an eye.

Maybe it's worse than we can imagine.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:30 AM

17. Yes.

Then again, our biggest problem has always been understanding stupidity.
All we CAN do is watch it, because it defies even our imaginations.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:15 AM

33. Being "Smart" About Taxes...

I was hosting a party late '70's (I was in my mid-20's), and there was this guy I met (friend of a friend, etc.), and the subject somehow came up, and he actually belittled me because I paid taxes. I was made to feel a fool, an idiot, in my own home by some smarmy wise-ass - and as I write this now, I recall the feeling that if more like him proliferate, the worse it's gonna get.

I'm proud to pay my taxes. It makes me part of the Grand Experiment. Of course I would love to pay less! But I have to trust that those monies are spent for the common welfare - even for shitheads like my party guest. What makes him smarmy and 'smart' is that he knows he's ripping-off everyone else and will still reap the benefits of society (or offshore accounts, if you're corrupt-yet-still-gets elected politician).

The 'smart' ones can hide behind so many layers upon layers of misdirection and rabbit holes of 'legality' and 'blind trusts' - so seeing the lid finally pried from his cold now-politically dead hands is most satisfying.

They put Capone on Alcatraz for tax evasion. I can't wait to see the worm wriggle on the DA's hook! What a fishing expedition that will be!

There will be no unity without accountability.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:16 PM

50. How much was Russia involved in his finances. Loans, etc.

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Response to fwvinson (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:03 PM

60. His taxes likely wouldnt show that.

It would show interest paid but not to who. They'd have to ask him AGAIN for that info.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:04 AM

12. It will matter how far back the records go

Probably the most recent years have been scrubbed clean. But go back 10, 15, 20 years and there will be all kinds of goodies to discover. Compare Chump's tax records against his profit-and-loss statements from the same years, THAT's where the real secrets lie.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:29 AM

37. 8 years worth of returns, iirc,

is what was requested.
This is the DU member formerly known as DeminPennswoods.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:20 AM

13. About damn time.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:21 AM

14. OMG!

That IS good news!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:28 AM

15. Take THAT to CPAC, trumpcult!!



CPAC -- Where domestic terrorism and sedition are institutionalized and "conserved" through their fallen dictator idol!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:29 AM

16. I am so excited!!!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:33 AM

19. This could be huge for the entire free world...

I view Trumpism as a threat to the entire free world, democracy, climate change battle, everything. We need to destroy the head of this evil snake.

Throw everything you have at Trump, criminally, civil suits, boycotts, financial pressure. He and his family must be brought down.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:35 AM

20. K&R

And that's a job for this 'Eliot Ness': https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142698700
This is the DU member formerly known as Lock him up..

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:44 AM

22. Hey Russia are you listening, your playmate is fucked...........

he's still being blackmailed and this will probably expose his crap for a lot of years and "all" of those that were involved..........what color jump suit do you want white or orange with matching flippers...........

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:56 AM

24. I hope Vance has good body guards and protection. Don't trust the tRump cronies!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:58 AM

25. It's a funny world

Funny, or, . . .

We have seen Al Capone's tax returns, but not Trump's.

We have not seen (former) President Trump's tax returns but we all have seen the First Lady's tits.

Strange.

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Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:14 AM

32. I'd add FLINO. Not sure about the lady part in any case.

Welcome to DU.

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Response to yonder (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:37 AM

39. Are you all talking about her artificial kidneys?

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Response to efhmc (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:00 PM

65. Those kidneys and any other bits that would be routinely exposed. For pay.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:58 AM

26. Can someone please clarify ...

The article says: "Trump’s tax records are not supposed to become public as part of prosecutors’ investigation ..."

Doesn't this mean ONLY the prosecutor has access to records relevant to their case? What about the rest of the tax filings? If the records are not public, how can other potential charges be brought by other agencies?

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Response to Silver1 (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:39 AM

40. They may finally be released after the FP'd death as part of probate. That will be another 20+yrs,

To settle his estate.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:55 PM

56. Thanks.

I look forward to reading more about what this means. None of it if familiar to me.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:01 AM

27. Hunt over.

Witch caught.

Unless there's an unexpected leak of Rump's tax records the public won't know, at least for now. This is the start of accountability for Rump's financial crimes though, and for that I'm overjoyed.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:08 AM

29. From The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/22/joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-white-house-texas-donald-trump-live-updates

(snip)
In a one-sentence unsigned order, the court ruled that it would not step in to prevent the Manhattan district attorney’s office from obtaining eight years of Trump’s financial documents from his accounting firm.

The court’s decision clears the way for the documents to be turned over to a grand jury that has been convened as part of an investigation into Trump’s business dealings in New York.
(snip)

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:10 AM

30. Looks like Donnie isn't

getting his money's worth from the Supreme Court he bought and paid for. What's he going to do, demand a re-pick?

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:11 AM

31. Lock Him Up!

For real.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:34 AM

38. The beginning of the end, the last act, 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th....

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:46 AM

41. Just woke up and read this

It is 6:45 morning in Hawaii and so what a great way to start the day--reading this, AND waking up in Hawaii.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:52 AM

44. He still has one possible escape clause,

You could call it the Jeffery Epstein loophole. He can't be tried post mortem.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:54 AM

45. Before this day is over, Qrump will claim without proof

that all 8 years of his tax returns are under audit by the IRS. Lindsey Q Graham will agree.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:04 PM

47. Accountability Mr 45.

Your running is over and you're caught. good luck

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:11 PM

48. *cue MAGA heads exploding Kingsman style*

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:20 PM

51. i'm just wondering how many other frivolous lawsuits his team will file to stall/delay the release

at this juncture i'll just hold my breath till he's really indicted. NYAG's office seems to be moving very slowly. I have more hope with Merrick Garland taking the reins as USAG.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:35 PM

52. Perhaps it is a witch hunt. Perhaps he *is* a witch.

I think we should know, one way or the other.

Dunking stool!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:42 PM

53. I hope they catch a lot of fish and witches!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:44 PM

54. Thought you'd get way with it Donny boy?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:01 PM

55. "NOT THIS TIME ...DONNY BOY." (I had to add to your post, no offense meant)

and now, finally, " Donald Trump really does have a clue", says Stu...and, "It ain't pretty"

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:04 PM

57. Trump offers a opposing legal opinion...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:14 PM

58. Captain Queeg couldn't have written that any better.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 08:41 PM

64. better hang on this, he might need it for butt wipe in jail !!!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:51 PM

59. Amusing to see Trump cultist expressing their disappointment in Trump's judge picks

Well, amusing, but also very disturbing when you realize how they would like our system to function.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:17 PM

62. Why is djt fighting so much to not REVEAL his taxes? My gut instincts as an auditor tells me that

something is rotten in Denmark (sorry Denmark, your Country is beautiful per my nephew who lived there for a bit!). As an auditor, especially when faced w/ the fact even before we're looking at the tax returns, so much resistance is being thrown up, that obviously something is afoot.

Two big things to look at, invalid or illegal massive deductions and undeclared income, while not declared on the tax returns themselves, cross checking claims of income, w/ other outside declared sources of incomes and payout by companies (such as interest paid by banks to their depositors etc. vs. what trump claimed, etc.).

My gut is telling me that he's took massive, unsupported deductions, after all, he's full of hot air isn't he? And he signed the returns true, as true and valid.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:44 PM

63. Get those damn returns in a PDF--PDQ!!!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:53 PM

66. That's HUGE.. I bet the Traitor

is "TREMENDOUSLY" Pissed!

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