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PSPS

(15,218 posts)
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:28 PM Mar 2021

Mitch McConnell warns Democrats that overhauling filibuster rules will lead to 'completely scorched

Source: CNN

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell gave a stark warning Tuesday about how Republicans would grind the chamber to a halt if Democrats changed the filibuster rules, leading to a "completely scorched earth Senate." The Kentucky Republican defended the 60-vote threshold on the legislative filibuster in a floor speech, cautioning Democrats that if they moved to change the rules of the filibuster, it would not open up an express lane for the Biden administration to push through their agenda. Instead, Republicans would use every rule and option at their disposal to halt the chamber, making the Senate "more like a 100-car pileup, nothing moving."

Majority Whip Dick Durbin told reporters he's not concerned about McConnell's threats to slow the Senate if Democrats change the filibuster because "he has already done that."

McConnell also laid out the conservative agenda Republicans would swiftly move on the next time they take control of Congress and White House, most of which Democrats would vehemently oppose -- like defunding Planned Parenthood. The pendulum would swing both ways, "and it would swing hard," he warned.

McConnell listed some of the legislation his party would move on when they're back in power. "We wouldn't just erase every liberal change that hurt the country -- we'd strengthen America with all kinds of conservative policies with zero, zero input from the other side," he said pointing to how the GOP would move swiftly to defund sanctuary cities and Planned Parenthood, add new protections for the right to life of the unborn, work on concealed carry laws, and a new era of domestic energy production."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/politics/mitch-mcconnell-filibuster-comments/index.html



Durbin is right. McConnell is already doing what he's threatening and has been doing it for over 12 years. If SB1 is passed, no republican will ever win an election again.
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Mitch McConnell warns Democrats that overhauling filibuster rules will lead to 'completely scorched (Original Post) PSPS Mar 2021 OP
Durbin to McConnell: Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga DinahMoeHum Mar 2021 #1
Durbin to McConnell: Neah Opa neah-neah neah Apa neah booga Ropa booga booga ..... NOPE-A Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #46
For those that missed seeing Durbin's floor speech on the filibuster, you can see it here... PoliticAverse Mar 2021 #2
Thank you. elleng Mar 2021 #11
Well-reasoned Marthe48 Mar 2021 #13
Excellent speech! burrowowl Mar 2021 #57
Durbin did great! Great speech! BComplex Mar 2021 #82
Good for Durbin to show his fight, something I didn't know he had. ancianita Mar 2021 #93
..... Hotler Mar 2021 #118
Thank You for this video....Great Speech by Senator Durbin.. Stuart G Mar 2021 #120
I am so tired of McConnell and his threats and bluster Docreed2003 Mar 2021 #3
Hey Mitch go take a swim Blue Owl Mar 2021 #4
...in Lake Baikal--- lastlib Mar 2021 #60
That's fine. Nuke it, then statehood for DC, PR, and Guam. apnu Mar 2021 #5
Guam has less than 170,000 people maxsolomon Mar 2021 #22
And they would still get 2 Senators! nt Gore1FL Mar 2021 #85
They'd be better off joining Hawaii. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #86
Population isn't a requirement. Gore1FL Mar 2021 #89
Well, then maybe we should offer Statehood to the Kingdom of North Sudan maxsolomon Mar 2021 #110
Sounds like a plan! ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #115
Fuck you McConnell. Empty threats because you already shot every KPN Mar 2021 #6
As opposed to McConnell's brand of scorched earth, not even bringing stuff to the floor. n/t forgotmylogin Mar 2021 #64
Moscow Mitch can go screw himself, he has f**ked over this country for far too long UpInArms Mar 2021 #7
Democrats need to ask themselves this: would Republicans do it? Damn right they would. Vinca Mar 2021 #8
The guy who calls himself The Grim Reaper is threatening obstruction? Oh, my! Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #9
Have you noticed how EarlG Mar 2021 #10
Absolutely right on point (what you said). Nothing to add. NT SWBTATTReg Mar 2021 #76
Election ad written by the turtle. BunnyMcGee Mar 2021 #114
Mitch McConnell is quickly becoming irrelevant, and so is GOP bullshit. liberalmuse Mar 2021 #12
Fuck you, Mitch OriginalGeek Mar 2021 #14
Scorched earth? MontanaMama Mar 2021 #15
Seriously I DO NOT know just what this turtle asshole COULD DO? bluestarone Mar 2021 #16
You can see some of what the Republicans can do because they did some of it... PoliticAverse Mar 2021 #21
I do see that BUT bluestarone Mar 2021 #26
They are doing it to a small degree at the moment. McConnell is threatening to.. PoliticAverse Mar 2021 #29
Agree! bluestarone Mar 2021 #34
They can do those things, but we'll see how much stomach Deminpenn Mar 2021 #95
And that is different from Repukes' policies in what way? kysrsoze Mar 2021 #17
So then nothing will change. Good to know. nt SunSeeker Mar 2021 #18
Any fascist legislation rammed through by the GOP will be punished by the voters Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #19
Historically, I'd say that voters have the memories of gnats. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #121
So McConnell is saying it will be business as usual with him in charge. patphil Mar 2021 #20
"Focus" the Filibuster, then. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #23
But it was just fine when repukes changed the filibuster rules. The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #24
We have nothing left to lose, Mitch stole it all already. Let's not play this game Mitch's way. bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #25
Biden, please take McConnell behind the barn. That is what you do to bullies. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #27
that's not what he did to Corn Pop maxsolomon Mar 2021 #30
Joe can take a 6ft chain to McCornall Pop. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #33
Mitch, "to a completely scorched earth Senate." Botany Mar 2021 #28
If he does not get his way, he'll (checks notes)...continue to be an asshole. Got it. flibbitygiblets Mar 2021 #31
If I were able to, I would use it against him steelyboo Mar 2021 #32
Time for Mitch to go..... infullview Mar 2021 #35
McConnell's scared wryter2000 Mar 2021 #36
And that's exactly what he's scared of - voting rights and civil rights. speak easy Mar 2021 #39
If you don't get rid of it, make it damn hard to do yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #70
Coming out and admitting that Karma13612 Mar 2021 #37
AMY CONEY BARRETT ! - fuck you to hell, Mitch. speak easy Mar 2021 #38
"If we have the filibuster, we'll stop everything. If we don't have the filibuster, we'll stop LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #40
IOW just business as usual jmowreader Mar 2021 #41
Do you care what Mitch McConnell thinks.. ananda Mar 2021 #42
McConnell, the Grim Reaper, knows all about practicing scorched earth. dlk Mar 2021 #43
I laughed especially hard on this one: "...and a new era of domestic energy production." machoneman Mar 2021 #44
Go for it Mitch. Let's make you the poster boy of not helping Americans. ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #45
Well McConnell, dream on. Get rid of the filibuster and Dems can show how their agenda helps Jay25 Mar 2021 #47
Fuck you clown!! aeromanKC Mar 2021 #48
Remember, he would, at the drop of a hat, do onto us whatever he could rip us off, e.g., a 3rd SWBTATTReg Mar 2021 #49
I'll continue to do what I'm Dave in VA Mar 2021 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Mar 2021 #51
mcconnell is not only evil, barbtries Mar 2021 #52
Ask ourselves: "Would republicans do this?" JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #53
LOLOLOLOLOLOL !!! PoliWrangler Mar 2021 #54
Memo to Mitch: AverageOldGuy Mar 2021 #55
Hey, chinless, corrupt one. Explain to me how your "scorched earth" is any different from the crap niyad Mar 2021 #56
In other words, he going to continue to do what he's he's always been doing. W T F Mar 2021 #58
After ramming through Kavanaugh, his threats are hollow. Politicub Mar 2021 #59
McConnell has been indicating he's thinking of retiring. It's come up several times. Texin Mar 2021 #61
Nice to know Mitch plans to listen to the citizens of America bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #62
Bring it, turtle boy. Hell awaits. 634-5789 Mar 2021 #63
"completely scorched earth Senate." BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #65
McConnell will do that anyway IronLionZion Mar 2021 #66
"erase every liberal change that hurt the country" CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #67
Hey, Mitch... FUCK YOU!! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #68
Tell the POS McConnell to go fuck his Republican/Nazi ass. johnthewoodworker Mar 2021 #69
Mitch is terminally ill, and he knows it. Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #71
How do you know that? maxsolomon Mar 2021 #87
Recent pics show signs of serious health problems. Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #94
OK, I've seen all that too. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #107
McConnell is rotten to his filthy core Yeehah Mar 2021 #72
Let The Blue Areas Keep Their Tax Money modrepub Mar 2021 #73
Let this be a motivation to the dems .. mitch will eliminate the f.b. and seek revenge Fullduplexxx Mar 2021 #74
How many votes are needed to modify Senate rules? davsand Mar 2021 #75
He already turned it to ash. Gore1FL Mar 2021 #77
Might be a reasonable threat kacekwl Mar 2021 #78
Hey! Let's just flip McTurtle on his back and watch him flail his wrinkly hands and feet in the air LaMouffette Mar 2021 #79
Really grim reaper. When you wish a POTUS to fail, you wish the country failure. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #80
People who hate America BlueJean Mar 2021 #84
EVER! onecaliberal Mar 2021 #90
Mitch is the bully who's had his bluff and bluster called out. All he has is empty threats. Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #81
I dont believe SB1 would make it through the SCOTUS. oldsoftie Mar 2021 #83
Let me see if I can find the right words here... WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2021 #88
purple lip's need's to move to China with his woman !! monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #91
Tell that to USSC Justice Merrick Garland. Oh, wait... nt Baltimike Mar 2021 #92
To quote a famous Republican, "Go ahead. Make my day." regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #96
forgot almost got court marshal 'd. & discharged . senator helped him got out of it! monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #99
Who says that you'll be back in power, Moscow Mitch? Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #97
Man who broke Senate warns that fixing the Senate is a dangerous idea. Film at eleven. Efilroft Sul Mar 2021 #98
Only a frightened man airs this publicly BradAllison Mar 2021 #100
mcconnell already scorched and salted the earth. bullimiami Mar 2021 #101
More like, it will effectively end the Republican party's control over anything. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #102
mcconnell already scorched and salted the earth. bullimiami Mar 2021 #103
we have had a scorched earth senate for years DonCoquixote Mar 2021 #104
So What? BaronChocula Mar 2021 #105
I'm disappointed rambler_american Mar 2021 #106
McConnell is an asshole, but do we really want to do this? Calista241 Mar 2021 #108
so whats the difference between now and that weissmam Mar 2021 #109
It will not. The US Senate existed as a functional deliberating body without filibuster for years CousinIT Mar 2021 #111
McConnell's only source The Wizard Mar 2021 #112
your so rite & mitch is dog shit with out it !!! monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #113
Whatever you say blue lips. alphafemale Mar 2021 #116
He says this like we won't remember Merric Garland D23MIURG23 Mar 2021 #117
LOL.. this means we should do it. honest.abe Mar 2021 #119
McConnell hates America Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #122
Carpe Diem! This is war! live love laugh Mar 2021 #123
I wonder what was behind the Russian financed aluminum plant in Kentucky? DBoon Mar 2021 #124

Trueblue1968

(19,081 posts)
46. Durbin to McConnell: Neah Opa neah-neah neah Apa neah booga Ropa booga booga ..... NOPE-A
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:08 PM
Mar 2021

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. For those that missed seeing Durbin's floor speech on the filibuster, you can see it here...
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:32 PM
Mar 2021

BComplex

(9,749 posts)
82. Durbin did great! Great speech!
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:51 PM
Mar 2021


Now, if we can get Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to realize the importance of this, we'll have a working legislature again!!

ancianita

(42,907 posts)
93. Good for Durbin to show his fight, something I didn't know he had.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:52 PM
Mar 2021


McConnell's proud claim as grim reaper of Democratic bills is exactly the blowback he's afraid of.
Fuck his feelings.

Docreed2003

(18,709 posts)
3. I am so tired of McConnell and his threats and bluster
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:34 PM
Mar 2021

He's done absolutely nothing but create disruption and obstruction.

lastlib

(27,566 posts)
60. ...in Lake Baikal---
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:37 PM
Mar 2021

your other home.

After swimming, proceed with self-fornication. With a pitchfork. An old rusty, manure-crusted, tetanus- and virus-infected pitchfork. Sideways.

maxsolomon

(38,206 posts)
22. Guam has less than 170,000 people
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:13 PM
Mar 2021

That's not a state. Even if you throw in American Samoa and all the other Pacific Territories it's still not as big as WY.

PR, sure. It's >3 million.

maxsolomon

(38,206 posts)
86. They'd be better off joining Hawaii.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:26 PM
Mar 2021

Am Samoa, N Marianas, and Guam all add up to 282,000. Not a state.

Likewise, USVI should combine w/ PR into a "Caribbia" state.

DC is almost 700K. One could make an argument that it should be part of Maryland, but it's bigger than VT & WY.

Gore1FL

(22,848 posts)
89. Population isn't a requirement.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:33 PM
Mar 2021

Guam as a current population of 167,294. That's twice what Georgia had when it became a state. It's 5/3 of what Maine had. Rhode Island had a population of 68,825 when it became a state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_historical_population

ahoysrcsm

(1,162 posts)
115. Sounds like a plan!
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:10 AM
Mar 2021

I had no idea the Kingdom of North Sudan was a US territory, lean something new every day.

KPN

(17,145 posts)
6. Fuck you McConnell. Empty threats because you already shot every
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:39 PM
Mar 2021

one of those loads. Maybe you idiots shoulda kept some of your powder dry? But no, you brought all your guns and deployed them. It didn’t work, just like the Capitol insurrection didn’t work, and now you want to revert back to collegiality. Ain’t gonna happen. Bite our collective ass crybaby.

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
64. As opposed to McConnell's brand of scorched earth, not even bringing stuff to the floor. n/t
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:47 PM
Mar 2021

UpInArms

(54,096 posts)
7. Moscow Mitch can go screw himself, he has f**ked over this country for far too long
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:41 PM
Mar 2021
"If I became skeptical of the filibuster, it's because of your use of it," said the Illinois Democrat, speaking directly to McConnell. "And I hope that you understand that you can't have it both ways. It can't be a rare procedure and be a procedure that dominates the actual business of the Senate as this has done for so many years."

Vinca

(53,364 posts)
8. Democrats need to ask themselves this: would Republicans do it? Damn right they would.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:44 PM
Mar 2021

EarlG

(23,380 posts)
10. Have you noticed how
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:46 PM
Mar 2021

when McConnell is Senate Majority Leader, he scorches the earth (see, withholding Merrick Garland's SCOTUS nomination, forcing through Amy Coney-Barrett at the last second, etc. etc.) But when he ISN'T Senate Majority Leader, he tells Democrats to do what he wants, or BY GOD HE'LL SCORCH THE EARTH.

What's the warning here? McConnell is going to use his power to the absolute maximum extent regardless of what Dems do.

Fuck off, Mitch.

Edited to add, this is such a joke. McConnell is basically saying, "Look out Dems -- if ever there is a Republican House, Senate, and White House, we will pass ALL KINDS OF LEGISLATION THAT YOU HATE, and WE WON'T GET YOUR INPUT ON ANY OF IT!"

I mean, if McConnell gets the House, Senate, and White House, this is what he will do anyway, FFS. Regardless of what Dems do now.

BunnyMcGee

(479 posts)
114. Election ad written by the turtle.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:04 PM
Mar 2021
we will pass ALL KINDS OF LEGISLATION THAT YOU HATE, and WE WON'T GET YOUR INPUT ON ANY OF IT!"


This should spur some votes among the young voters.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
12. Mitch McConnell is quickly becoming irrelevant, and so is GOP bullshit.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

The GOP policy has been scorched earth for about a decade now. They don't give a shit about reaching across the aisle. They will run roughshod over the Dems if given the chance regardless making this a weak, weak threat. They are the party that has abused the filibuster in the past, even when the Democrats had the majority in the first year of Pres. Obama's 1st term after Kennedy got sick and the GOP in WI was delaying seating rightfully elected Sen Feingold.

bluestarone

(21,212 posts)
16. Seriously I DO NOT know just what this turtle asshole COULD DO?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:55 PM
Mar 2021

Can someone explain it? Could he actually do what he's threatening to do? I know the senate is 50-50 (not good) BUT can HE (THEY) stop anything? How can they stop the process? Hell when they are in the majority, seems like we couldn't do much.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
21. You can see some of what the Republicans can do because they did some of it...
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:13 PM
Mar 2021

in the case of Biden's cabinet nominations. Simple delaying tactics. Using the the rules to require votes/debate for everything that the rules allow. Always objecting to "without objection" procedural motions.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
29. They are doing it to a small degree at the moment. McConnell is threatening to..
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

take it to 100% annoyance. The problem with that plan is any rule that the majority finds too annoying the majority can change.

bluestarone

(21,212 posts)
34. Agree!
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:29 PM
Mar 2021

As long as EVERYONE of us (Dems.) sticks together. I do wish we were stronger. (more in the majority i mean) WE DO have them by the ass IF we stuck together. (after 22 it might be better?)

Deminpenn

(17,299 posts)
95. They can do those things, but we'll see how much stomach
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:00 PM
Mar 2021

the Rs have for staying up late, coming to work early and working weekends. My guess is not much.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,066 posts)
19. Any fascist legislation rammed through by the GOP will be punished by the voters
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:06 PM
Mar 2021

The Republicans won’t have the filibuster and the resulting gridlock to hide behind- everything will be out in the bright sunshine for all to see.

maxsolomon

(38,206 posts)
121. Historically, I'd say that voters have the memories of gnats.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:42 AM
Mar 2021

Dems were punished in 2010 because the ginned-up outrage over the ACA's "Socialism" was at the forefront of their minds.

Was the GOP punished in 2018 for the 2017 Trump tax cut? I'd say it was more Trump's offensive existence that motivated liberal voters to take the House.

patphil

(8,733 posts)
20. So McConnell is saying it will be business as usual with him in charge.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:09 PM
Mar 2021

That business being the scorched earth policy he implemented for all the time he ran the Senate.
A new voting rights act is the best way to prevent this.

bucolic_frolic

(54,068 posts)
25. We have nothing left to lose, Mitch stole it all already. Let's not play this game Mitch's way.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:17 PM
Mar 2021

Don't let Mitch use hypocrisy, whining, condescension, fear to control you. Just don't go there. Say, "Yeah, Mitch, that's great, have a cold one and see you tomorrow!"

Rinse and repeat.

Irish_Dem

(79,889 posts)
27. Biden, please take McConnell behind the barn. That is what you do to bullies.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:20 PM
Mar 2021

Remember what your mom taught you.

Botany

(76,421 posts)
28. Mitch, "to a completely scorched earth Senate."
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

Like you did with Obama Mitch? When you tried to block everything he was doing in order to make the
American people suffer so President Obama would be a one term President.

Or like your helping to hide that Russia was installing Trump 2016?

Or your ramming through Amy Coney Island Barrett?

Or the phony ass "investigation" into Brett Kavanaugh sexual assaults?

How many right wing assholes did you pack into the Federal courts with Mitch?

Merrick Garland ring a bell?

Or blocking any election/cyber security measures?

Or changing KY law so when your dying ass leaves the senate the seat will stay in GOP hands?

Or your hiring that young asshole who bothered that Native American?

Or your laughing about being a dick to the democrats?



steelyboo

(801 posts)
32. If I were able to, I would use it against him
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:26 PM
Mar 2021

I'd point out the fact that when his party had control of the WHOLE GOVT during the Trump administration, they didn't try to "move swiftly to defund sanctuary cities and Planned Parenthood, add new protections for the right to life of the unborn, work on concealed carry laws, and a new era of domestic energy production."

Then I would follow that up with asking "So, even when your party had the means to make these changes, you did nothing? I mean it is like you trot out these garbage issues just to get idiots to vote for you, knowing full well you never intend to carry through on these policies. Say it ain't, Turtle? Say it ain't so!"

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
36. McConnell's scared
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:41 PM
Mar 2021

And for good reason.

However, I think Clyburn's idea is best...exempt voting rights and civil rights from the filibuster instead of getting rid of it entirely. If our voting rights bills pass, the Rs will never be in the majority again.

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
39. And that's exactly what he's scared of - voting rights and civil rights.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:49 PM
Mar 2021

Let's play hard ball.

yellowdogintexas

(23,595 posts)
70. If you don't get rid of it, make it damn hard to do
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:05 PM
Mar 2021

Give the majority right to call foul if needed; 3 strikes and filibuster ends.
Stay on topic
no reading from irrelevant books (phone book or Green Eggs and Ham)
no breaks
no sitting down
no food

In other word, adopt the rules used in the Texas State Senate. Wendy Davis stood for 13 hours, wearing a catheter, with no food or breaks, staying on topic the whole time.

Karma13612

(4,919 posts)
37. Coming out and admitting that
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:43 PM
Mar 2021

The GOP will hold up all good legislation now, and enact bad legislation when they are in office just makes me ask:

When are the American people going to wake up and realize this?

Make this speech he gave into a campaign ad for the opposing side.
McConnell is pure evil.



40. "If we have the filibuster, we'll stop everything. If we don't have the filibuster, we'll stop
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021

everything. When we regain power, we'll destroy everything," is what Moscow Mitch threatens. Of course, they'll use the filibuster on every single item of progressive legislation. Their idea of bipartisanship is that they get everything they want and we don't get anything.

Sounds like the solution is to end the filibuster and pass every progressive law we can, then run against the Repugs on, "The only idea the Republicans have is to take away every single thing you have gained in the past years. They want to hurt you and your family as much as they can. This is their big plan. Everything else is just part of The Big Lie."

jmowreader

(52,906 posts)
41. IOW just business as usual
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:52 PM
Mar 2021

BTW I met a gun dealer a few months ago (I was buying a non-gun item from him) who told me the only reason we don’t have nationwide concealed carry reciprocity is McConnell blocked it when Obama tried to do it.

dlk

(13,119 posts)
43. McConnell, the Grim Reaper, knows all about practicing scorched earth.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:01 PM
Mar 2021

Never mind Moscow Mitch changed the filibuster rules when it suited his purposes. Now, the thought of Democrats removing many of the Republican impediments to voting (especially for people of color) is giving him apoplexy. It would be a shame if he gave himself a stroke.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
44. I laughed especially hard on this one: "...and a new era of domestic energy production."
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:03 PM
Mar 2021

Hah! Gee, what ever happened to not picking winners and losers? Or, let the markets decide?

He's pushing coal, oil and gas of course. All a losing battle to far more solar, wind and nuclear power. He's ignoring not only the will of the people but more importantly, the fact that major petroleum companies have been funding wind and solar projects for a long time now. And the DOD has all the services working to use non-petroleum sources as mcuh as possible.

What a loser! BTW, he'll likely die of whatever is ailing him long before he can do shit about our agenda!

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
45. Go for it Mitch. Let's make you the poster boy of not helping Americans.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:07 PM
Mar 2021

Let's see how that plays out you fucking asshole.

Jay25

(434 posts)
47. Well McConnell, dream on. Get rid of the filibuster and Dems can show how their agenda helps
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:09 PM
Mar 2021

average people. Repubs depend on division and anger to stay in power. Dems have a chance to do something tangible, make life better for people, and repubs know they are finished if that happens.

SWBTATTReg

(26,057 posts)
49. Remember, he would, at the drop of a hat, do onto us whatever he could rip us off, e.g., a 3rd
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
Mar 2021

supreme court nominee, and other actions that he pulled off in our face. F**k off kindly, mr. mcC. Once burned, we'll never listen to the likes of you ever again.

Dave in VA

(2,260 posts)
50. I'll continue to do what I'm
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:15 PM
Mar 2021

already doing if you don't do what I'm telling you to do?

There's a threat here?

Response to PSPS (Original post)

JohnnyRingo

(20,514 posts)
53. Ask ourselves: "Would republicans do this?"
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:20 PM
Mar 2021

if they were in power and we held up everything they tried to pass?

That said, I'm personally not in favor of repealing the filibuster. It's a useful tool for the minority when not abused, as it is now. Might be better to tell McConnell if he doesn't get his people in line now we will call his bluff, and he isn't going to like it.

PoliWrangler

(158 posts)
54. LOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:22 PM
Mar 2021

Sit down Mitch, you have no credibility and certainly no moral high ground.

AverageOldGuy

(3,364 posts)
55. Memo to Mitch:
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:25 PM
Mar 2021

Mitch -- may I call you "Mitch?" -- thank you.

Listen up. From time to time, the situation reaches a point where the shit has to get real. We are at that point. You and the gang of thieves and cutthroats you call a political party have been fucking over the rest of us for 30 years.

We have had enough.

You want scorched?

Bend over while I fire up this blowtorch.

niyad

(129,609 posts)
56. Hey, chinless, corrupt one. Explain to me how your "scorched earth" is any different from the crap
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:26 PM
Mar 2021

you disgusting, spineless, hate-filled cretins have been doling out for years?

W T F

(1,186 posts)
58. In other words, he going to continue to do what he's he's always been doing.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:37 PM
Mar 2021

Gee, we're really scared

Politicub

(12,327 posts)
59. After ramming through Kavanaugh, his threats are hollow.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:37 PM
Mar 2021

He already torched the notion that the senate is a thoughtful, deliberative body.

The GOP does not represent its constituents. They know that reforming gerrymandering will be the end of their surgical assault on the vote and American values.

Texin

(2,834 posts)
61. McConnell has been indicating he's thinking of retiring. It's come up several times.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:40 PM
Mar 2021

He doesn't like being the minority leader. I think if the Dems do go ahead and reform the filibuster if not outright demolish it, McConnell may well make good on his retirement talk. He's supposedly been talking to the (Dem) governor of KY and trying to broker a deal, so to speak, to have a(nother) rethug installed. I'm guessing Beshear (IIRC) has told him to fuck off, so now he's trying to hold the Dems in congress hostage again threatening to go scorched earth on them in future when/if he ever gets the reins of power again. Frankly, they need to take him up on his threats. God damn it, he does it anyway and has been over nearly two decades. Burn the filibuster to the ground if they have to and let the devil take the hindmost. With the change in demographics in the US, it's likely he couldn't win again anyway. This is what the rethugs are afraid of. They say it all the time and the work overtime doing everything in their power to strip more and more voting rights away from people along with other civil rights. It's all they can think of and they'll lash themselves to an idiot autocrat like tRump or worse in future if need be to do it.

BumRushDaShow

(165,859 posts)
65. "completely scorched earth Senate."
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:49 PM
Mar 2021

He fucking invented the "completely scorched earth Senate" by sitting on Merritt Garland's nomination for 9 months in 2016, then ramming through the huge tax cuts for the rich in 2017, and finally throwing 400+ bills from the Democratic House after the 2018 election, into his craven turtle cave and left them to die.

CaptainTruth

(8,050 posts)
67. "erase every liberal change that hurt the country"
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:59 PM
Mar 2021

That would be a total of... Zero... Zero changes, because no liberal change has hurt the country.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
71. Mitch is terminally ill, and he knows it.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:08 PM
Mar 2021

So his mission in the short time he has to live is to do as much damage as possible. This is what we are dealing with, folks. Even mass murderers on death row sometimes show remorse. But not Mitch.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
94. Recent pics show signs of serious health problems.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:59 PM
Mar 2021

It's been talked about it here for awhile. Purple hands, IV port in hand, blue lips, signs of serious blood circulation problems. That and he is trying to have laws in Kentucky changes to allow him to literally name his successor, which is odd since he was just elected to a new six-year term.

Yeehah

(6,177 posts)
72. McConnell is rotten to his filthy core
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:12 PM
Mar 2021

His threats should inspire Democrats to end the filibuster and enact positive change for the American people.

modrepub

(3,998 posts)
73. Let The Blue Areas Keep Their Tax Money
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:19 PM
Mar 2021

the rest of the Red grifters can figure out how to pay for their own stuff.

Fullduplexxx

(8,604 posts)
74. Let this be a motivation to the dems .. mitch will eliminate the f.b. and seek revenge
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:21 PM
Mar 2021

So you better fkg vote

davsand

(13,444 posts)
75. How many votes are needed to modify Senate rules?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:21 PM
Mar 2021

I doubt the filibuster can be completely eliminated right now. What I do not know, is can that rule be modified back to what it was when it required a Senator to stand and speak the whole time? Pretty sure that hateful turtle can't stand and speak for too long. If the rule can be modified it might be enough to slow his spiteful roll.

I also think statehood for DC and Puerto Rico needs to become a very high priority--like ASAP. While I know the crazy assholes will not embrace it, I'd think that would be a simple majority vote. We got that. Pretty sure that "pity party" would have a difficult time verbalizing why two new states are a bad thing...




Laura

Gore1FL

(22,848 posts)
77. He already turned it to ash.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:34 PM
Mar 2021

He needs to make new threats, not talk about his old accomplishments.

kacekwl

(8,887 posts)
78. Might be a reasonable threat
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:37 PM
Mar 2021

if it wasn't what he's been doing all along. Doesn't he call himself Earth Vader ?

LaMouffette

(2,575 posts)
79. Hey! Let's just flip McTurtle on his back and watch him flail his wrinkly hands and feet in the air
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:39 PM
Mar 2021

as he tries to right himself.

Like Trump, McConnell has made it all too clear the danger of bestowing too much political power upon one person.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
80. Really grim reaper. When you wish a POTUS to fail, you wish the country failure.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:41 PM
Mar 2021

People who hate the government should NEVER be elected to any government position.

BlueJean

(14 posts)
84. People who hate America
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:55 PM
Mar 2021

and its people, should never be elected to, or hold any government position. EVER.

Ford_Prefect

(8,512 posts)
81. Mitch is the bully who's had his bluff and bluster called out. All he has is empty threats.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:51 PM
Mar 2021

How is the next GOP Senate gonna have credibility when at least 5 of their current number are in federal prison for treason, acts against their oath to protect the constitution and the nation, grievous fraud, along with bribery and extortion? Not to mention double parking in a crossing zone.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,416 posts)
88. Let me see if I can find the right words here...
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:28 PM
Mar 2021

Oh, yeah! Fuck you McConnell! What exactly does he think he's been doing for the last 10 years? Helping? I detect a note of panic here. He knows Republicans, under his leadership, have screwed things up royally, and may never win another election if they don't shove through these voter suppression bills.

Empty threats, and I hope Schumer tells him to fuck off. All Schumer has to do is go back to the original filibuster rules. What are the rethugs going to say? They're not going to be satisfied until they put The Constitution through a paper shredder and turn this country into Brazil, where you're either very rich or very poor.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,491 posts)
97. Who says that you'll be back in power, Moscow Mitch?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:25 PM
Mar 2021

That could be a very unlikely if voting rights are promoted for everyone.

bullimiami

(14,073 posts)
101. mcconnell already scorched and salted the earth.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:44 PM
Mar 2021

the only reason he didnt totally kill the filibuster is that they lost the house so it would have done him no good.

he killed the filibuster wherever it suited him to grab power.


jorgevlorgan

(11,098 posts)
102. More like, it will effectively end the Republican party's control over anything.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:45 PM
Mar 2021

Ever.

I think.

bullimiami

(14,073 posts)
103. mcconnell already scorched and salted the earth.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:45 PM
Mar 2021

the only reason he didnt totally kill the filibuster is that they lost the house so it would have done him no good.

he killed the filibuster wherever it suited him to grab power.


oh and lucky for us mcconnell has a foot and a half in the grave. later mitch.


DonCoquixote

(13,943 posts)
104. we have had a scorched earth senate for years
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:49 PM
Mar 2021

I mean, when you say you would do this the next time you get into power, why shoudl we give you an inch of our power now that we tore it out of your clawed hands?

McConnell listed some of the legislation his party would move on when they're back in power. "We wouldn't just erase every liberal change that hurt the country -- we'd strengthen America with all kinds of conservative policies with zero, zero input from the other side," he said pointing to how the GOP would move swiftly to defund sanctuary cities and Planned Parenthood, add new protections for the right to life of the unborn, work on concealed carry laws, and a new era of domestic energy production."

rambler_american

(926 posts)
106. I'm disappointed
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 07:14 PM
Mar 2021

in both my NH Senators whom I requested do away with the filibuster. Jeanne Shaheen answered me with an explanation of how the filibuster works and what it is used for (Thanks, Jeanne. I had no idea /s) and Maggie Hassan said that she supports keeping the filibuster and working across the aisle (thanks for nothing, Maggie) Both Democrats! I expected better.

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
108. McConnell is an asshole, but do we really want to do this?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 07:15 PM
Mar 2021

It’s not going to lead to a bunch of liberal laws that we want. Manchin and Sinema can’t even give us a $15 minimum wage, and that’s easier than all the other stuff. Does anyone think they’ll support judicial reform, or a public option, or immigration reform, or adding states to the union?

What’s to stop Republicans from splitting up Alabama and Indiana into 5 new states when they have control again? We used the filibuster to save our union in 2017 and 2018.

D23MIURG23

(3,137 posts)
117. He says this like we won't remember Merric Garland
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:59 AM
Mar 2021

Fuck that noise. If we reform voting rights and add new states he'll be dead before they get back into power. Good riddance mitch!

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
119. LOL.. this means we should do it.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:41 AM
Mar 2021

He knows changing the filibuster takes away most of his power.

Go for it Dems!

DBoon

(24,750 posts)
124. I wonder what was behind the Russian financed aluminum plant in Kentucky?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:16 PM
Mar 2021

Is Mitch hiding corruption involving a hostile foreign government?

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