7 rural counties in Oregon that voted for Trump have voted to secede from the blue state and join Id

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Business Insider


[e-mail] (Kelsey Vlamis) 1 hr ago

Five rural counties in Oregon voted on Tuesday in favor of leaving Oregon and becoming part of Idaho, joining two other counties that already voted in favor of the idea last year.

The ballot measures called on officials in each county to start considering the move, and are the first step of the "Greater Idaho" movement, which aims to expand the state of Idaho to include rural Oregon and part of California.

Activists say Oregon's government does not represent the conservative values of the much of the state, and that none of the Democrats in the state legislature represent a rural area.

"This is why Oregon passes laws that kill industries in eastern, central, and southern Oregon. They don't protect us from rioters, forest arsonists, or school curricula that teach kids to hate Americans and Americanism. And they pass laws that violate our conscience. We can't let our money support their system anymore. We are outnumbered, we don't have leverage, and things will continue to get worse," the website reads.


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/7-rural-counties-in-oregon-that-voted-for-trump-have-voted-to-secede-from-the-blue-state-and-join-idaho/ar-AAKbm6k?li=BBnb7Kz

[NurseJackie]

1. What babies!

[TexasTowelie]

2. I don't believe that Idaho wants them though.

I read that they would have a negative fiscal impact on the state.

[truthisfreedom]

10. How perfect is that? "Loser counties from Oregon seek new state to take advantage of."

Perfection.

[Midnight Writer]

57. Yeah, Idaho just pulled the shades, shut off their lights, and took the phone off the hook.

[Botany]

3. "They don't protect us from rioters, ..."

And this is a problem how?

Hate talk radio/TV/social media/nut ball web sites are selling shit to dumb asses.

[Haggard Celine]

5. Yeah, I'm sure they have a massive

problem with rioters in rural Oregon.

[Botany]

24. We have a massive disinformation campaign in America by the right wing, Russia, and the rich ....

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... pushing issues that are not really a problem. They want "the idiots" to be pissed off @
the liberals to sow social unrest.

[Haggard Celine]

30. Those people on the airwaves spreading lies

and animosity between Americans are one of the main problems we have, and lack of education and critical thinking skills are a major problem as well.

I never thought that it would be so easy to lead so many people around by the nose, but I know now that it is. And the people listening to that filth enjoy the hell out of it and want more and more extreme content.

It's so frustrating to me because there seems to be very little we can do about it with so many on the far right who aren't willing to help in any way.

[Botany]

31. The anti vaccine people who are being hyped up on the dangers of the vaccine by people who have ...

.... already been vaccinated themselves kill me. Do you see wards filled with people in
iron lungs because of polio anymore?

2 of my best friends for years have fallen for some really sophisticated and some not so
sophisticated right wing disinformation sites. Both are college grads and smart too. I
would love to see the links (which I think are real) between Putin/Russia and organizations
like Fox News exposed.

[appalachiablue]

52. +1 You said it, the serious dilemma

ongoing for 40 years at least.

[NanceGreggs]

4. OR ...

... they could just fuckin' move to Idaho.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. Too logical.

[d_r]

9. Then they couldn't

Use federal land on Oregon to graze their cattle on.

[JohnSJ]

23. +++

[IronLionZion]

34. Conservatives in lots of swing states

should fuckin move to Idaho (or other dark red states like WV or Mississippi) It's a win win

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Maybe consider joining the human race first

[LymphocyteLover]

18. what a concept!

[Maxheader]

7. Bu bye bye..

donnybots....

[Turbineguy]

11. They could build a

huuuuge container port!

[jaxexpat]

12. Where else can Utah rejects go?

What else can they do to secure minority rule?

[jaxexpat]

13. Where else can Utah rejects go?

What else can they do to secure minority rule?

[knightmaar]

14. Forest Arsonists?

What do want your state gov't to do?

Build giant mirrors to reflect the Jewish Space Lasers?

[JohnnyRingo]

33. I know!

Would they then just have Idaho arsonists and forest fires? And protection from rioters?

I know exactly what they mean, but just because it's a new county in Idaho doesn't mean it'll be whiter, it'll just make Idaho more diverse. Maybe they should check to see if that what the Spud State wants. You know how the neighborhood goes once they move in.

What a bunch of intolerant assholes. Sell their homes and move their racists asses to another state.

[Permanut]

51. Raking is one idea that has been recommended..

right after drinking bleach to protect yourself from COVID.

[samnsara]

15. would be easier for them to just pack up and move

[NCjack]

47. Oregon should offer to pay them $500 a head to move and never return.

[OldBaldy1701E]

16. And then

After they do this, and Idaho accepts the idea, and the Fed goes along with it, they become part of Idaho. Then, as always happens in our history, Oregon turns red and Idaho turns blue. Then what, loser rethugs? You keep changing states so that you will always be with your 'own kind'? How about you STFU (Shut The Fuck Up), and just accept that your Neanderthal ideals are not popular. If they were, the conservatives that you say are 'the majority of the state' would control the state. Face it, your state is trying to progress, not regress. Regressing is the main goal of the rethugs, and we need to keep an eye on any of them that push that desire on their state. I like riding in a horse drawn carriage as much as anyone, but I don't want to be stuck with just that option while limos rush past me. Fuck that.

[GB_RN]

62. Unless I'm Missing Something,

These are are Red idiots in Oregon who want to join already-Red, Idaho. So, Idaho would stay Red…and would just get more idiots. Oregon would get more Blue as a result.

[OldBaldy1701E]

68. Yes.

But, as history shows us, no state 'stays' blue or red. And, when they decide they do not like Idaho? What then? Are we to allow counties and cities to randomly decide to redefine state boundaries just because a few idiots are disgruntled? What I am trying to say is that this is just more toddler whining from those who used to be in a position to always get what they want and refuse to change one thing due to Dunning Kruger Effect. These are the same people who felt we Democrats should STFU and just do what they wanted (or die). Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they refuse to even consider that option. The only one they offered us. Which is why I said fuck them and they can just survive as we did. (Oh wait, I am not sure they will survive much without being in 'charge'. Oh, be still my heart!)

[RicROC]

17. I wouldn't have any problem...

with redrawing all the state lines. Upstate NY might combine with northern PA. Oklahoma could enlarge to include northern TX.

(Just thinking over morning coffee and listening to Morning Joe)

[rambler_american]

20. And Northern New England

could join the Canadian Maritimes. I'm OK with that.

[Marrah_Goodman]

65. I'm in southern New England

We would like to join Canada also please

[LymphocyteLover]

19. They seem nice...

actually they are typical braindead conservative assholes found in every rural area.

[dhol82]

21. Here's something I had never heard about:

State of Jefferson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)

[AllaN01Bear]

41. been around for a very long time . many in my area of ca support this

esp the northern tip counties which have no income generating infastructure except a fed supermax prision. theres also those who want to split ca in half.

[dhol82]

45. How do they expect to finance a state?

Strange people.
I have heard of the people who want to divide Cali in half but had never heard of the State of Jefferson before.

[DBoon]

48. They are under the delusion that only rural whites contribute to society

They think their hard work and taxes support all the deadbeats in cities.

[Mz Pip]

69. Congressman LaMalfa

The guy is a big rice farmer and gets huge subsidies. I remember seeing one of his election signs proclaiming “He’s one of us!” Pretty ironic since he’s one of the richest dudes in a very poor district.

I drove through a small depressed town and saw a large wooden sign nailed about the door of a dilapidated home. “Trump 2020! Make liberals cry again!! It just seemed sad and pathetic.

[jeffreyi]

70. Shasta County is getting a lot of ink in the LA Times.

There are a bunch of bullies down there offending and assaulting and no one seems willing to rein them in. Of interest to me because they are too d**ned close to where I live. I think there is a lot going on behind the scenes with these "militias", not good.

[sinkingfeeling]

22. So, when do large urban areas in the south start voting to take

their money and businesses out of state? Maybe we can have an Independent Austin or even Chicago?

[mopinko]

29. downstate illinois already wants to secede.

which is fine by me.

[Jon King]

25. Well except when they or their kids need expert medical care, or workers comp or....

I love these rural conservatives. They hate anything progressive but run to the nearest big city to the best medical center they can find if they or their kids needs specialty medical care. They take Social Security which Repugs try to destroy. They use workers compensation if injured which Dems always save. They use Obamacare when needed. Their counties take back more money than they contribute to support things that protect them like the military.

[paleotn]

27. Build a wall.

No healthcare of safety net for them. Live free, morons!

[heckles65]

42. Not to mention

The cities pay for most of the $600 billion military their kids can join if they don't have a daddy with a big construction business.

[paleotn]

26. Fine. Whatever.

The vast majority of people and GDP resides in blue Oregon. Economically, Idaho is little different than Arkansas. So go off and be poor, dumb, ignorant Jebusland.

[VGNonly]

28. Wolf killing

sovereign citizen bundyites!

[George II]

32. Looking at the map of those counties, I wonder just how many people actually live in them?

[marble falls]

35. I want Travis and Burnett Counties to secede and join Oregon.

[niyad]

36. Pretty sure that the "forest arsonists" are the same people who are voting for this bs. And what the

F'n hell is "'mericanism"?

[Ford_Prefect]

37. Well, we'll know where to find the Zombies during the next Apocalypse, right?

[BeyondGeography]

38. As if you have to be in Idaho to be in Idaho

[Marthe48]

39. Just get Oregon to redraw district lines

Maybe they can gerrymander these counties right off the map.

[The Wizard]

40. Infoxication

is a cruel mistress and a form of brain poison. Too bad they gave up on Obamacare where thought disorders are covered.

[CaptainTruth]

43. None of the officials in FL's government represent me, can I secede?

[samsingh]

44. can't counties who won't Democratic do the same in Texas, Florida and around the country?

[bucolic_frolic]

46. If they want Texas they should move to Texas

[lonely bird]

49. "...laws that violate our conscience..."

Can you have a conscience if you are unconscious?

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

[cstanleytech]

55. Gotta gave a conscience first though and given how

many of them think it’s ok to put children in cages I kinda doubt that they do.

[William Seger]

50. For context, "urban" have become a dogwhistle for "Blacks and liberals"

[appalachiablue]

53. +1 For decades..where everyone lives in 'ghettos

and squalor loaded on drugs and crime..'

[lonely bird]

56. Yeah, that's odd...

Considering that rural America is a hotbed of opioid abuse.

[Jilly_in_VA]

66. I got trashed

on another forum by someone who said I must live in Seattle, and who then went on to rant at great length about all the things he said were wrong with Seattle. Funny, said I, I live in rural northern Virginia among the cows and Mennonites, please take your rant somewhere else. No reply.

[Tikki]

54. Tumble Weed Wranglers....

The Tikkis

[daggahead]

58. Welcome to Gilead

Handmaid's Tale is a lesson, not a blueprint.

[geretogo]

59. I live in Southern Oregon . Fascism is taking over the country very fast . I am 73 . I am too old to

move to a civilized democratic country . I hope I pass on before the enemy completely takes over as did Hitler
75 years ago . Very frightening time we live in .

[jeffreyi]

72. That's kind of how I feel.

The bullies and willful ignoramuses and the cruel seem thoroughly empowered. Well, about all I can do is to try to leave things in my "control" a little better than I found them, and try to be good to my friends.

[Nasruddin]

60. Get rid of states altogether

They outlived their usefulness in 1860, & it's well past time to reorganize.

[rockfordfile]

61. Sounds like crap Russia would be pushing

[BadGimp]

63. I predict this is a Trend now.

I live in Portland, and while a lot of the politics here is too far left or worse for my tastes, visiting the "Five rural counties" referenced in the article is like a literal trip to angry white Redneckistan.


Q: WTF is "Americanism"?

[Tree Lady]

67. A friend of mine from CA who loves

To visit Portland just came back from there. Didn't feel safe on the Trimet like she did before. Said she found out they took fund allocated for security on it to somewhere else. I guess a homeless guy screamed at her and scared her. She is 71 so not young.

All the places downtown and boarded up really got to her. She is a moderate dem. And said she won't do another alone trip.

Makes me think Portland might take a big hit tourist wise from all the stuff going on there. Add that to covid can't be good.

I live in southern Oregon and go to Portland at least few times a year normally but haven't gone since covid.

How do you see the city doing?

[Skittles]

64. their "values" align with Trump's values

think about that

[RandiFan1290]

71. Malheur County

Gee, wonder where I heard that before?