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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 11:59 PM Jun 2021

Body of missing US student Catherine Serou found in Russia

Last edited Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:47 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Agence France-Presse

Man arrested after body of former US marine is discovered in woods near Nizhny Novgorod

Agence France-Presse
Sat 19 Jun 2021 21.12 EDT

Russian investigators have detained a man on suspicion of murder after finding the body of a foreign woman identified by media as a missing American student.

Russian news agencies identified the woman as 34-year-old US citizen Catherine Serou.

Earlier this week, investigators said that a 34-year-old foreign woman who lived just outside Nizhny Novgorod, a city 420km (260 miles) east of Moscow, had gone missing after getting into an unidentified car.

They said she had moved to Russia in 2019 to enrol in a master’s programme in law at Nizhny Novgorod’s Lobachevsky State University.

On Saturday, the investigative committee, which probes major crimes in Russia, said it found the “missing foreign student”.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/20/missing-us-student-catherine-serou-russia-body-found-nizhny-novgorod



American Student and Former Marine Catherine Serou Found Brutally Murdered in Russia

Catherine Serou’s mother told The Daily Beast that she frantically tried to find her daughter after an ominous message just before she went missing this week.

Anna Nemtsova
Published Jun. 19, 2021 3:17PM ET

MOSCOW—The U.S. Marine forces trained Catherine Serou to survive in combat, and she did during in the war in Afghanistan. The 6-foot-tall blonde was athletic, hard-working, intellectual, an artist, a photographer and studying law at a Russian university. But it was a car ride in a sleepy provincial Russian town, Bor, in the region of Nizhny Novgorod that she did not survive: after going missing on Tuesday, her body was found in the woods this weekend. The car’s driver, 43-year-old Aleksey Popov, stands accused of her murder.

Serou went missing on the eve of a summit between President Biden and President Vladimir Putin. The fate of two other former U.S. Marines detained in Russia came up at the meeting, giving the timing of her disappearance a hint of politics, and a hope she might be still alive and under arrest. Instead, it was a crime story. Not long before the tragedy, Serou told her mother she had made up her mind to stay and live in Russia. “She enjoyed Nizhny Novgorod so much, she loved her life in a Russian family, her friends at the University,” her mother, Becci Serou, told The Daily Beast in a phone interview.

Becci Serou expected her daughter’s call on Tuesday. They were supposed to build a website together for Catherine’s business, where she taught English. But after 7 pm Moscow time, Becci was not able to reach her daughter on the phone. “I came out of my own class and found a message from Catherine, it said: ‘In a car with a stranger. I hope I’m not being abducted,’” Becci said. “I realized she had sent me that note 40 minutes before I found it. I tried to reach her but her phone was off. Later police tracked her phone in the woods near the town of Bor.”

Earlier that day, Catherine visited a beauty salon in downtown of Nizhny Novgorod, then returned home to her room in a rented apartment in the small Soviet factory town of Bor, just across the Volga river. “I could not sleep for three nights, thinking if she got away from him— her being a strong athlete, trained to survive,” the mother told The Daily Beast in an interview before police determined Catherine’s grim fate.

More:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-student-and-former-marine-catherine-serou-found-brutally-murdered-in-russia








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Body of missing US student Catherine Serou found in Russia (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2021 OP
I find it bizarre why anyone would choose to go study law in Russia of all places Pachamama Jun 2021 #1
Agreed Pas-de-Calais Jun 2021 #2
I dunno why she picked Russia to study. LisaL Jun 2021 #3
My cousin studied for a year in Russia. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #4
I can think of a few reasons alphafemale Jun 2021 #5
Other articles indicate she was possibly interested in working in immigration/emigration, WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #10
Agreed a horrible tragedy. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2021 #18
What a beautiful sweet face she has. Such a horrible tragedy. littlemissmartypants Jun 2021 #6
Weird focus on this tragedy TomWilm Jun 2021 #7
Yeah, foreign students are killed in the US as well nattyice Jun 2021 #8
Tragically true... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #17
Me thinks there's a whole lot more to this story.... paleotn Jun 2021 #9
If you want to practice law in Russia, studying law there makes sense. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #11
The law is simply in Russia.... paleotn Jun 2021 #12
Among other things, there's a good deal of emigration to America from Russia Bucky Jun 2021 #13
Complex technical field? Sure.... paleotn Jun 2021 #15
I mean, it's fun to take shots at Russia, but there are a lot of people living day-to-day lives who WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #14
Hey, whatever. paleotn Jun 2021 #16
Yes, Russia has a low rank on the effectiveness of the rule of law ... TomWilm Jun 2021 #19
So Vlad isn't really in control of Russia? paleotn Jun 2021 #20
Shocking news: Dictators does not control much! TomWilm Jun 2021 #21

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. I find it bizarre why anyone would choose to go study law in Russia of all places
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 12:19 AM
Jun 2021

There are so many places in the world to go where you are not having to live in a rented room in a former Soviet factory town. Where the law of the land is actually a democracy and is law - Russia is not one of them. As a former USMarine, the GRU and FSB would have always been watching her and had a file.

I am very sorry for her family’s loss and I have a feeling that if she was trained as a marine and was a 6ft tall woman it may have been a violent ending for her as she fought her murderer. The text to her mom suggesting she thought she was being abducted is odd and I wonder what other details we will learn.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. I dunno why she picked Russia to study.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 01:33 AM
Jun 2021

From the OP article, it appears she was enamored of Russian culture and wanted to stay in Russia. Unfortunately in her case it turned tragic. The guy arrested for this had a long criminal history. This sort of thing could happen anywhere, unfortunately.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
4. My cousin studied for a year in Russia.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 03:29 AM
Jun 2021

She eventually got her doctorate in Russian language and studies. She hated Putin but loved the Russian people and culture.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,356 posts)
10. Other articles indicate she was possibly interested in working in immigration/emigration,
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:48 AM
Jun 2021

in which case knowing Russian law would be helpful. If she wanted to stay in Russia, as this article indicates, and work in the legal profession, knowing Russian law would be vital.

And as far as the text to her mom -- women and other marginalized or vulnerable people routinely text each other as they're on the move for precisely this reason.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
18. Agreed a horrible tragedy.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jun 2021

Re: Russian studies -
There will always be those who work to forward freedom at great costs to themselves. IMO one key to making that happen is understanding the status quo.



As an aside, Albert P. Blaustein was professor of law at Rutgers School of Law. He authored numerous scholarly works on the subject of constitutionalism including a six-volume work on the U.S. Constitution entitled Constitution of Dependencies and Special Sovereignties. Blaustein helped draft more than 40 constitutions worldwide and visited many of those countries. In 1991, he helped to write the constitution for the Russian Republic.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
7. Weird focus on this tragedy
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 06:14 AM
Jun 2021

... I have heard a few young students might even have been killed in the old US of A. No reason to travel far for that.

The homicide rate in Russia is about the same as in the United States. But there seems anyway to be a lot of very nice people in both places - especially if you travel to the smaller cities.

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
9. Me thinks there's a whole lot more to this story....
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jun 2021

than is being made public. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Russia is known for its legal scholars or the study of law. Certainly not how we in the west understand the rule of law.

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
12. The law is simply in Russia....
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jun 2021

It's whatever the Czar, the Politburo or now Putin says it is. Everything else is kabuki theater. And why would anyone from the west want to practice whatever Putin says in Russia? Potentially dangerous job in a less than stellar country.

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
13. Among other things, there's a good deal of emigration to America from Russia
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 10:59 AM
Jun 2021

So study in emigration/immigration law could lead to a very lucrative career with the added benefit of helping people pursue their dreams.

I'm not really clear on the basis for your suspicions. You seem to suggest that the law is not a complex technical field of study in Russia. I don't believe that's particularly accurate.

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
15. Complex technical field? Sure....
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jun 2021

until whoever is running Russia at the time simplifies it to whatever they say the law is. It's a place where the bedrock of western democracy, rule of law, simply doesn't exist. Never has. Emigration law is lucrative there probably due to oligarchs and the economics of it are like plastic surgery. But, hey, to each his own I guess. I still think the story in the Op is fishy.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,356 posts)
14. I mean, it's fun to take shots at Russia, but there are a lot of people living day-to-day lives who
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jun 2021

need someone to walk them through tax law, real estate law, divorce court and so on. They need lawyers and paralegal equivalents to help them.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
19. Yes, Russia has a low rank on the effectiveness of the rule of law ...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jun 2021

... and rightfully so. There are some corruption, though I was never asked to do anything illegal during my years traveling there. They have a fully functioning juridical system, and in contrast to whatever you may read in the comics, Putin has very little to do with anybody's everyday life. He is way too busy ruling his own little kingdom of the Kremlin...

BTW, my own country is ranked in top of the World Justice Projects for effectiveness of the rule of law. But with a score 1.00 as the strongest, United States has a quite meager score of 0.72.

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
20. So Vlad isn't really in control of Russia?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jun 2021

Only his little kingdom?

If he does happen to step into their "daily lives" they should try protesting publicly. See how that works out for them. But I would caution to stay away from window ledges and tea they didn't make themselves. Buy a geiger counter. It may save their lives.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
21. Shocking news: Dictators does not control much!
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 05:08 PM
Jun 2021

The difference, which is nice to know, is that for most Russians, Putin and his Kremlin brotherhood is a very distant nuisance.

As a local Russian citizen there is plenty of local problems to fight, which is way more important for their daily life, than that of some few politicians fighting for power and influence thousands of miles away - and very few get invited to tea with Putin, poisoned or not. They just live their lives...

Many of them anyway joins protests all over Russia - like they have always done. Russians are not accepting much idiocy of their leaders, and many local Putin backed governors has been forced to resign.

Russia also have citizens who support Putin and vote for him. There are idiots in all countries, somebody even voted for a guy named Trump once...

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