Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who oversaw Iraq war, dies at 88

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNBC



WASHINGTON – Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has died at the age of 88, according to a statement released Wednesday from his family. “It is with deep sadness that we share the news of the passing of Donald Rumsfeld, an American statesman and devoted husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather. At 88, he was surrounded by family in his beloved Taos, New Mexico,” the statement read.

“History may remember him for his extraordinary accomplishments over six decades of public service, but for those who knew him best and whose lives were forever changed as a result, we will remember his unwavering love for his wife Joyce, his family and friends, and the integrity he brought to a life dedicated to country.”

Rumsfeld, who served as the Secretary of Defense in the Republican administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and George W. Bush, oversaw the Pentagon’s response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. On the heels of the September 11 attacks, Rumsfeld directed a U.S. military attack on Afghanistan that led to the toppling of the Taliban. Two years later, Rumsfeld oversaw the U.S. invasion of Iraq, a move aimed at removing then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

Rumsfeld, who initially earned praise for leading America’s military into conflict, was later criticized as the nation grew war-weary of the Iraq War. In 2004, Rumsfeld was blamed after photographs of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners detained at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad emerged. Rumsfeld resigned as Secretary of Defense in 2006 and was replaced with Robert Gates.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/30/former-defense-secretary-donald-rumsfeld-dead-at-88.html

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Updated...

Just heard on my local CBS affiliate. Short article so far.

Earlier update -

WASHINGTON - Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has died at the age of 88, his family said Wednesday.

"It is with deep sadness that we share the news of the passing of Donald Rumsfeld, an American statesman and devoted husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather. At 88, he was surrounded by family in his beloved Taos, New Mexico," the statement read.

"History may remember him for his extraordinary accomplishments over six decades of public service, but for those who knew him best and whose lives were forever changed as a result, we will remember his unwavering love for his wife Joyce, his family and friends, and the integrity he brought to a life dedicated to country."

Rumsfeld, who served in the Republican administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and George W. Bush, oversaw the Pentagon's response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

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Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dead at 88

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[NBachers]

1. Rec

[tishaLA]

2. Guess he gets to learn about unknown unknowns now

bastard

[NJCher]

14. zing

that was right on target.

[underpants]

19. I posted on another thread

Well that's a known known then isn't it

[usaf-vet]

72. I'll bet he is going to be bury somewhere north,south, east ,or west of where he lived.

that is the only "nice" thing I can say about him.

[BlueTsunami2018]

3. A terrible person.

Who never paid for his crimes.

[Pinback]

45. Yes -

I used to wish fervently every day for him and Dick Cheney and a handful of W's other henchpeople to go either to prison or to an early grave.

[Auggie]

51. +1. Just one of many, too.

[DemocraticPatriot]

109. The full statement from his family mentioned something about his "integrity".

I spit coffee all over my monitor on that one...

Well, of course the family was blinded by love. I'll let that slide.

[zentrum]

4. These guys and their phony Iraq war.

Cheney will die in his bed too. And Wolfowitz and all of them. Will die rich and unscathed.

[Marrah_Goodman]

33. Crap, Darth Cheney is still alive????

[Harker]

61. Technically. n/t

[zentrum]

115. Ha! Good one.

[Jilly_in_VA]

117. With someone else's heart

which he got by jumping the line.

Don't get me started on him...or that.

[Marrah_Goodman]

118. I find it shocking that the heart didn't reject him!

[Jilly_in_VA]

120. YOU

are about to owe me a new Mac keyboard! And I just got this one........ *wiping up the water I just spray-laughed all over it*

[LiberalLovinLug]

34. "and whose lives were forever changed as a result"

Like......dead?

How many innocent deaths did he help to indirectly cause? How many permanent injuries, mental and physical?

No one like that should ever be in a position to "forever change" lives.

And I agree, Cheney, Bush, Rove, Rice, all of them will live lives of opulence and privilege until the day they die. And I also don't think Trump or his kids will ever see the inside of a jail cell either.

[zentrum]

116. Agree on all points.

The perfect image for this is George Bush painting his toes in the bathtub. Horrifying, really.

[zuul]

5. From the CNBC article:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/30/former-defense-secretary-donald-rumsfeld-dead-at-88.html

WASHINGTON – Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has died at the age of 88, his family said Wednesday.

“It is with deep sadness that we share the news of the passing of Donald Rumsfeld, an American statesman and devoted husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather. At 88, he was surrounded by family in his beloved Taos, New Mexico,” the statement read.

“History may remember him for his extraordinary accomplishments over six decades of public service, but for those who knew him best and whose lives were forever changed as a result, we will remember his unwavering love for his wife Joyce, his family and friends, and the integrity he brought to a life dedicated to country.”

Rumsfeld, who served in the Republican administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and George W. Bush, oversaw the Pentagon’s response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Just refreshed the site updated the OP!

Thanks!!

[rurallib]

17. "his extraordinary accomplishments" - common Americans would say crimes -----

[IcyPeas]

73. this is how history is re-written.

[HUAJIAO]

84. He didn't deserve Taos !!

[rpannier]

99. whose lives were forever changed

Lotta dead people whose lives he helped change

[hlthe2b]

6. Oh my... I always thought I had just the right thing to say when this happened...

But my utter disdain for him has not faded, yet it has been eclipsed by my feelings toward Trump et al.

So, there is that, I guess.


On edit, I can say one thing positive about the late Mr. Rumsfeld. I admired that he used a standing desk.

[wnylib]

69. I can say one good thing about him, too.

He made the world a brighter and better place ....

by dying.

[colorado_ufo]

78. Always a stinkier fish.

I cannot summon one atomic particle of sadness at his departure, but when it comes to Trump, i will allow myself to absolutely rejoice.

[Hoyt]

7. Still trying to figure out his "Known Knowns, and Known Unknowns" statement.

In February 2002, Donald Rumsfeld, the then US Secretary of State for Defense, stated at a Defense Department briefing:

"There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — there are things we do not know we don’t know."

[EYESORE 9001]

10. It boils down to this

If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

[sakabatou]

11. Yep.

[IronLionZion]

55. Probably awkwardly describing a Johari Window or SWOT analysis

To say that in war there are plenty of things they don't know about and can't predict or something like that to describe unexpected outcomes.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari_window



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis

[lastlib]

71. Tautologies suck. So do war criminals.

Rumshit was the latter who tried to bamboozle us with the former. He thought it made him look smart. It didn't. F*ck 'im. With a pitchfork.

Satan, one of your buddies is at the door.

[electric_blue68]

94. Actually that's one of the few accurate or nuetral things he said..

RE:
known knowns, unknown knowns, unknown unknowns

[Steelrolled]

110. I hear people talk about unknown unknowns from time to time

and I always think of Rumsfeld. I imagine there was always the concept, but I wonder whether he popularized it. It certainly seems like it would be a basic principle of intelligence analysis.

[Maxheader]

112. learn from the past...

To prepare for the future....

[kimbutgar]

9. Rest in hell

Between his war mongering and introduction of saccharine that wrecked people's pancreas resulting in more diabetes in people.
I'm sure he's frying with Limbaugh now.

[SammyWinstonJack]

105. Rot in hell!

[Tacan]

12. Remember this?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rumsfeld+2+trillion+dollars+missing&docid=607986147390131018&mid=71D5F3CD2DC15C7FF89B71D5F3CD2DC15C7FF89B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[Duppers]

82. Gee damn! May he rot in hell!

Wish I believed in a hell.

[UpInArms]

13. All people bring joy

Some when they enter, some when they leave.

[sakabatou]

15. One should never say bad things about the dead, only good... Rumsfeld is dead. Good.

[Mysterian]

16. The man who called troops fungibles

As evil a person who ever swindled a paycheck from the U.S. taxpayers

[Jeebo]

18. Mike Malloy used to say about Rumsfeld ...

... that he was 600 years old and slept in a coffin. I don't know what to say about that; I'm just sharing the recollection.

-- Ron

[Scrivener7]

20. Well, bye.

[gay texan]

21. Good riddance mother fucker

I hope you suffered in the end for payment of all the pain and suffering caused.

[sinkingfeeling]

22. He's now with the unlnowns

[bringthePaine]

23. took long enough

[ZZenith]

24. The birds are singing and the flowers are blooming

and down the street some children are laughing their musical laughter.

It’s a good day today.

[treestar]

25. Statesman?

Come on, CNBC!

[Behind the Aegis]

26. A statesman, a humanitarian, a peace advocate, a man of peace...

...these are just a few of the notables who have lined up to spit on his grave.

[NNadir]

27. If there is a hell, he is in it.

[Dawson Leery]

28. He will not be missed, nor will anyone else

from the Bush junta.

[Javaman]

29. yay, the piece of shit war criminal is dead. too bad it wasn't sooner.

I hope he's screaming in terror in hell having to face each and every person's wrath that he has killed via his actions.

[johnthewoodworker]

30. Rumsfeld was a lying piece of shit during the Bush years and helped set up the symphony

of lies that was later used during the Trumptard coup of January 6th, 2021. The world is now a little better since he has left.

[Dawson Leery]

35. The GOP has been doing this since that SOB Nixon.

Lying to acquire and hold power is the most conservative thing anyone can do.

[The Mouth]

31. Rot in hell along with EVERY Senator who voted for it

and yes, that includes a previous Presidential candidate who I DID vote for, but still, anyone who wasn't strongly against that war is no better than any member of Hitler's Reichstag applauding the invasions of Poland and Czechoslovakia. Every journalist who supported it, too, should also be hanging from the neck after a trial at the Hauge.

[Skittles]

111. it was really the only beef I had with her

but it was a big one

I think think too many Dems voted career over country, and it was sickening indeed (that is always expected from repukes)

[Marrah_Goodman]

32. Trying to dig up some compassion...

Nope, spent all that compassion on the lives he took.

[malthaussen]

36. Clarence Darrow may have the floor for me. n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. "an American politician, war criminal, and devoted husband, father, grandfather and..."

There. Fixed it for them.

[Best_man23]

38. This explains why its been so hot recently

Hell has been prepping for Rumsfeld's arrival.

[Jilly_in_VA]

59. He can go to hell

in the handbasket he has, not the one he would wish to have.

[RockRaven]

39. Bye, Felicia.

[nattyice]

40. I'm interested in knowing where his grave will be.

Want to make sure the grass is well-fertilized.

[Orrex]

41. What the fuck took him so damn long?

[Politicub]

42. He brought about unimaginable suffering

What a piece of work.

[jeffreyi]

43. Was he the one who said "democracy is messy", and "stuff happens"

As Iraq and Baghdad went up in flames of looting and murder and lawlessness? And Abu Ghraib?

[liberal N proud]

102. Unknowable unknowns

[SamKnause]

44. Good.

[samsingh]

46. He was an evil disgusting criminal

[DBoon]

47. Good people die too young

and then there is Rumsfeld

[James48]

48. Where will Rumsfeld be buried?

I want to go piss on his grave.

[tblue37]

49. They say the good die young. This suggests that is often true.

[Suburban Warrior]

50. You die with the soul you have,

not the one you wish to have.

[Hoyt]

56. Perfect.

[Warpy]

52. he will be remembered for ginning up the war that led to ISIL

I excoriated him in life and death does not confer sainthood.

[hookaleft]

53. Hope he brought his sunscreen!!! n/t

[AZLD4Candidate]

54. After all the death and misery he caused and created, there aren't enough onions in the universe

I guess it will be a long hard SLOG to SLOG your way through Hell.

[liberaltrucker]

57. Nothing of value was lost

nt

[ellie]

58. Oh well.

[Generic Brad]

60. He will be missed on windy days

It’s hard to continue pissing on a grave when facing straight line winds.

I have no kind words for a lying warmonger.

[Jilly_in_VA]

62. I've never gotten over being mad at him

for the Iraq war, and never gotten over being proud that it was a TENNESSEE National Guardsman who asked the question that ultimately brought him down.

[raccoon]

86. Elucidate, my dear Watson. Nt

[Jilly_in_VA]

113. The question

was about why soldiers were having to scavenge Iraqi dumps in search of scrap metal to "hillbilly armor" their vehicles. (I can't remember the exact wording) That brought the infamous, "You go to war with the army you have, hot the army you wish you had," comment.

[raccoon]

114. Thanks! Nt

[Wild blueberry]

63. Good fucking riddance

War criminal.

[SergeStorms]

64. C'est la vie.

If there's a heaven or hell, he's in big-ass trouble with a shit-load of Iraqis. Couldn't happen to a nicer lying piece of shit.

"Donald Rumfilled", as Bob Boudelang used to call him.

[cactusfractal]

65. Oh. So what's everyone having for dinner? n/t

[Hassin Bin Sober]

66. I hope it hurt.

[artemisia1]

67. When is Henry Kissinger going to join him in hell? /nt

[Evolve Dammit]

90. Seriously. He's been embalmed already. Taxadermist? He's another war criminal. So many. nt

[burrowowl]

95. Soon, I hope.

[stollen]

68. Torture Boy, meet Jesus H Christ

H is your destination.

[Bengus81]

70. My list of asshats I want to see DIE before me just got one shorter today!

[ZonkerHarris]

74. Fuck that guy. Twice.

[NEOBuckeye]

75. Good riddance.

Maybe he went to hell in advance to organize the welcoming committee for his BFF Cheney.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

76. "To his critics, Rumsfeld was a cool, Machiavellian operator"...

... "To his critics, Rumsfeld was a cool, Machiavellian operator -- Henry Kissinger once described him as the most ruthless man he knew".

https://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/09/insider.rumsfeld/index.html

Bye Don.

[BigmanPigman]

77. Too bad it didn't happen 88 years ago,

he was born evil.

[C Moon]

87. :D

[Gore1FL]

79. You go to hell with the soul you have, not the soul you might want or wish to have at a later time.

[Scottie Mom]

80. Rot in hell, Rumsfart.

You deserve worse, but this will do until something else comes along.

[Deep State Witch]

81. He now knows

what we don't know.

[bluecollar2]

83. Hasta la vista pendejo....n/t

[catchnrelease]

85. If you can't say anything nice

Come over here and sit by me!

Good riddance to a true war criminal and I hope he's the first of three to go. Shotgun Cheney should be next and nominations are open for number three.

[LakeArenal]

88. The road to hell is also paved with bad intentions.

Rummies paved a superhighway to hell.

[McKim]

89. Spent 15 Years in The Peace Movement

I spent 15 years in the Peace Movement trying to clean up his mess. Burn in Hell for the one million Iraqis (quoting The Lancet here) who died and our poor duped soldiers!

[Evolve Dammit]

93. Amen. And four plus million driven out, lives shattered based on LIES. Rot in hell Rummy.

Oh, and Rummy sold the chemical weapons to Saddam in the Reagan years, when they were fighting Iran. How fucking convenient, you lying sack of shit. Wondered why it was so hot today. Gates of hell wide open.

[LiberalArkie]

91. Is there anyway to put a binding spell on him to keep him in hell so he does not come back?

[turbinetree]

92. 3+ trillion dollars later and all this asshole and his gang had to do was go into

Tora Bora and get Bin Laden....he could have ordered it done... and now 3 + trillion dollars later ...

[Autumn]

96. Enjoy the unknowns of hell asshole.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

97. They say you should always speak good of the dead

Donald Rumsfeld is dead, good.

[rpannier]

98. You go to the afterlife with the sins you have, not the sins

you wish you didn't have or virtues you wish you had, but don't

[bdamomma]

100. Oh my,

I hope he gets a "hot" welcome to the "unknowns or is it unknown".

[Skittles]

101. oversaw? FUCK

"HELPED TO CREATE BASED ON LIES" is more like it

[Wolf Frankula]

103. What ever happened to the guy who used follow him waving a paper

and shouting, "Mister Rumsfeld, Mister Rumsfeld, I have a warrant for your arrest."? A German judge had signed it.

Wolf

[The Animator]

104. How am I just finding out about this now?

Now I gotta find my dancing shoes!

[PlanetBev]

106. Statesman???

I remember when he laughed off the sacking of the Baghdad museum. “If you’ve seen one vase, you’ve seen them all.”

Asshole.

[yaesu]

107. as soon as I saw maddow talking about this I watched YouTube vids instead, nt

[canetoad]

108. OK

[Polybius]

119. The neo-cons are mourning

Bill Kristol must be in a deep depression from this.