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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:59 PM Jul 2021

Hundreds believed dead in heat wave despite efforts to help

Source: AP




By ANDREW SELSKY an hour ago


SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Many of the dead were found alone, in homes without air conditioning or fans. Some were elderly — one as old as 97. The body of an immigrant farm laborer was found in an Oregon nursery.

As forecasters warned of a record-breaking heat wave in the Pacific Northwest and western Canada last weekend, officials set up cooling centers, distributed water to the homeless and took other steps. Still, hundreds of people are believed to have died from Friday to Tuesday.

An excessive heat warning remained in effect for parts of the interior Northwest and western Canada Thursday.

The death toll in Oregon alone reached 79, the Oregon state medical examiner said Thursday, with most occurring in Multnomah County, which encompasses Portland. ...........................

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/canada-heat-waves-science-health-government-and-politics-ea770a153d84b8774190a96affe2c2e3



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Hundreds believed dead in heat wave despite efforts to help (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2021 OP
Really, someone couldn't check on a 97 year old and make sure he or she was in a safe place? Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #1
Sibling of a colleague died, wasn't 50 uppityperson Jul 2021 #2
I have a friend who got stuck in San Francisco in a home with no AC. Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #3
I'll take the polar vortex any day over extreme heat and no AC Skittles Jul 2021 #4
amen imavoter Jul 2021 #7
it got to about 10 degrees in my apartment Skittles Jul 2021 #8
Your friend needs an attentive doc. I don't know if my terms are obsolete, but heat exhaustion... Hekate Jul 2021 #24
I understand how this happens KT2000 Jul 2021 #5
My 93 year old mother in law lives in Sequim. cilla4progress Jul 2021 #6
AC is going to keep the house 20 degrees under the ambient temp maxsolomon Jul 2021 #9
That is where I live too KT2000 Jul 2021 #18
Just... JoeOtterbein Jul 2021 #10
Hints from Australia: Aussie105 Jul 2021 #11
Thanks, those are great. Nt raccoon Jul 2021 #20
Wet towels are the best! betsuni Jul 2021 #22
About getting sufficient water -- what you said... Hekate Jul 2021 #25
666koch666 death toll not fooled Jul 2021 #12
more... myohmy2 Jul 2021 #13
Maybe but these are big time democratic areas jimfields33 Jul 2021 #19
In Canada? betsuni Jul 2021 #23
I had to go to MFM008 Jul 2021 #14
rip SunImp Jul 2021 #15
I had 4 fans on high a mini swamp coolers next to me Ka-Dinh Oy Jul 2021 #16
My commune in BlueMTexpat Jul 2021 #17
It was likely to happen. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #21
I can't imagine temperatures over 110. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #26
Just wait until we start hitting 130 deg F. roamer65 Jul 2021 #27

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
1. Really, someone couldn't check on a 97 year old and make sure he or she was in a safe place?
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jul 2021

Awful to be elderly, alone, and forgotten.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
3. I have a friend who got stuck in San Francisco in a home with no AC.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:30 PM
Jul 2021

There was a problem with the train that was to take them back home.

Anyway I've talked to her a few times in the last few days and she has been in the emergency room with panic attacks and other non specific mental problems and she actually is not making a lot of sense. Her face is sun burned and she just looks awful.

I remember not have electric after hurricanes down here in FL and our temps were not over 100%. But these things can really make you physically and mentally sick - especially if you are not used to heat.

imavoter

(646 posts)
7. amen
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jul 2021

I lived through -2 degrees for 4 days in Texas with no electricity...
and we survived off the gas stove for food.
peas porridge in the pot...just kept adding to it and ate soup type thing...

Went old school and kept water on simmer to keep the air from freezing, hot water bottles in jars wrapped in blankets and running heat in the car to charge the cell phone.

let all the animals in bed and burned candles all over the house to keep pipes from freezing.

I musta done it right, because our neighbors next door had to abandon their home to everything busting.
We got lucky.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
8. it got to about 10 degrees in my apartment
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jul 2021

I just wrapped myself in a couple of comforters....I gave my battery-powered "candles" to a neighbor with kids but had plenty of tea candles on hand. The actual weather OUTSIDE did not bother me, I lived many years in the midwest but yeah it sucked charging my cell phone in my car. I always have a generous supply of junk food around which came in very handy indeed!

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
24. Your friend needs an attentive doc. I don't know if my terms are obsolete, but heat exhaustion...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Fri Jul 2, 2021, 07:21 PM - Edit history (1)

…is bad, and heat stroke is worse. Did she go out in the sun and get that sunburn? If not, she’s still flushed from the heat. Dehydration can make a person disoriented (or to use a technical term from a friend who’s a nurse: “squirrelly”)

Best of luck to you and your friend.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
5. I understand how this happens
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jul 2021

any health problem becomes worse and the thought of moving around is out of the question. Our hospital in Port Angeles is full of people admitted and many were told to go back home if they were not in an emergency situation. I checked on my 90 year old neighbor and she answered the door in a flannel night gown but she said and seemed OK.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
6. My 93 year old mother in law lives in Sequim.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jul 2021

She lives on her own - with a daughter a couple miles away. She has AC. We call her every morning at 9 am.

Stressful.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
9. AC is going to keep the house 20 degrees under the ambient temp
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jul 2021

Our house never got over 80 and it was 108 outside.

Temps are back to normal, BTW. Barely 70 today.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
18. That is where I live too
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:18 AM
Jul 2021

Sounds like your MIL has good coverage. My 90 year old neighbor usually gets angry if people want to do things for her - except this time.

Aussie105

(5,388 posts)
11. Hints from Australia:
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jul 2021

Lessons learnt from 50+ degree C. weather.

Indoors:
Electric fan, spray bottle of water, shoot it at the fan. Enjoy the mist.
Lots of showers.
Wear loose fitting clothes. Yes, stand under the shower in them, drip off, walk around in front of that fan.
Move about as little as possible.
Avoid hot drinks, caffeine drinks, alcoholic drinks. Water from the refrigerator, by the gallon! Couple of good mouthfuls, every 10 to 15 minutes. Enough to still make you wee. If wee gets dark and concentrated, drink more.
Feel faint? Shower time! Cold, of course.
Get pets to find cool spots in front of the fan, or on concrete floors.

Outdoors: (If you must)
Move slowly.
Stay in the shade.
Do NOT engage in any physical activity.
Wear wet clothes. A wet towel around the head, or a soaked baseball cap. Replenish wetness often.
Play in the sprinkler, kids!
Have a pool? Stay out of it, you burn quickly, with lots of pain coming your way the next day.

And of course:
Check on elderly neighbours, relatives.

A/C would be nice, of course.

Be smart, be safe. No tough guy acts!










betsuni

(25,484 posts)
22. Wet towels are the best!
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

Cold wet towel around the neck. I keep the bathtub full and take dips throughout the day, usually don't bother taking underwear off. Use ice pillows at night.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
25. About getting sufficient water -- what you said...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jul 2021
Couple of good mouthfuls, every 10 to 15 minutes. Enough to still make you wee. If wee gets dark and concentrated, drink more.

That was the rule with infants with fever, back when my now middle aged children were infants — not to let their urine become dark, nor the diaper to go dry for long. Somewhere in the back of my mind that remained as an injunction for heatwaves, minus the diaper part of course. The effects of dehydration are insidious.


myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
13. more...
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jul 2021

...failure of capitalism...

...not enough profit in keeping some people alive?

...plenty of money for tax breaks and giveaways for the 1%...

...not surprising when you have a fucked-up priority system and greed ruling the roost...

...like Scrooge, maybe local Republicans are decreasing the surplus population?

...could be...

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
14. I had to go to
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jul 2021

A hospital in Puyallup and people, especially older still coming in with after effects of heatwave into the ER.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
16. I had 4 fans on high a mini swamp coolers next to me
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 01:40 AM
Jul 2021

all windows shut and shades pulled down and I could swear I drank 6 gallons of water. I still got heat exhaustion. Fans feel nice but they do not help my breathing. I needed a/c and did not have one. It is scary when you get disoriented in your own home.

When it is hot in the NW there usually is level of humidity and that is what makes me not do well. I can handle dry heat. I can breath in dry heat.

I did continually check on my family and friends to make sure they were Allright. My mother is 84 so I figured calling her throughout the day would be wise. She does have a/c so that was good.

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
17. My commune in
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:12 AM
Jul 2021

Switzerland sends out letters to all seniors (anyone 62+ is considered to be a "senior&quot each summer, asking whether we specifically want someone to check on us on a regular basis in case of a heat wave.

If we do not respond to the letters, they call and/or send visitors to check on us in person, just to be sure.

I understand that this is the case with all Swiss communes. Even the large cities are separated into smaller communes, each with its own representative government. We are supposed to register with the commune when we move into that district and it is the responsibility of each commune to take care of its citizens.

In 2020, during the pandemic, my commune also sent out letters asking us seniors whether we needed help with shopping or anything else and had a special task force ready to attend to those needs.

Fortunately, as a healthy and able-bodied person with a still - mostly - functioning mind who could use on-line shopping, I never needed the pandemic assistance. Nor have I ever needed the heat wave assistance - yet.

Like the Pacific NW, most of the houses and apartments here do not have A/C because we've really never needed it.

But the current experience in the US and Canada is literally unprecedented. The advice from Australia upthread seems to be good.

We all need to take the initiative to be good to others - especially those who are most vulnerable.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
26. I can't imagine temperatures over 110.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 06:23 PM
Jul 2021

And I live in Florida. In 2004 a hurricane cut our power and it was off for 13 days. In August. We lasted 2 nights then went to stay with the in-laws who had power. And I was only 39 and lived in a house built before AC.

It is so hard on our more senior citizens.

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